Qabyalad Made Somalis Cucks For Oromo

[Shk_ljh”630]

Your daughters will be wives to Oromo and your men will be sterilized with infertile poison like they did with all the ethnicities and tribes these galla assimilated. They want to take Zeila, Boroma, Hergiesa, Bosaso, and even have an Ugaas in Xamar. Oromo are the foot soldiers of the Abyssinian Christians. They were used to make Dire Dawa 50% Christian, death of the Harari Islamic civilizan, and now us. Oromo are the biggest enemies to Somalis. I always supported them but now I realize all they want is to assimilate us.

Lol

 

[CulturedKay]

It is not common to change clans, but it has happened in the past for different reasons. Either for protection, blood money, land etc. This was mainly done over 100 years ago, none of this happens anymore.

No it does not. If you look at clans most clans follow the same religion. Example is all the Barentu clans are main Muslim, besides some Arsis further west and closer to Shawa and some Wallo. All the west Oromia clans hail from one large clan, Maccaa and they’re mainly Pente or Protestant Christian’s with a few sub clans being Muslim, mainly Jimma.

Most clans are based in the same regions, Arsi and Bale are Arsi, East Hararge is AQ, south Hararge is Anniya, west is Murawa(Ittu) Shawa = Tulama. You won’t see a AQ in Wallaga or an Arsi in Wallo etc, unless they’re there for work. Oromos weakest point is regionalism, kind of clan like but some regions may have 1 or 2 additional clans.

Do you know a tribe name 'Oobe' or 'Obe'? Apparently they were Oromo and now claim Akiisho

 

[hawlwadaagsoldier]

Why not Karanle, Dir, Issa use their influence in Mogadishu and Djibouti to smuggle in weapons and establish a jabhad base in western Haraghe. It would be very hard to dislodge them if they properly established themselves. Ogadens have been fighting Ethiopia for centuries but we have been backstabbed by other Somalis. If Hawiye wants to reclaim their ancestral lands from Oromo the only solution is to reclaim it through xoog.

Hawiye have been fighting for over 5 centuries. The Ethiopians know us very well. We got backstabbed even harder.

 

[hawlwadaagsoldier]

In hararghe and dir dhabe the lines are blurred, there are people who will tell you their both Somali and Oromo and they number in the millions (Gurgura and Jarso being the main ones). Not to mention the Oromo Gada system which eats entire clans at a time

The only way to really know who’s who is to do abtrsi tests. Dont let them stop at their clan, ask them to go further. If after 8 or so names they count and further down theyre still Muslim names then they’re non-oromo as most hararghe oromos converted within the last few hundred years and after interacting with Somalis/Hararis

Now non-oromo doesn’t necessarily mean Somali. Hararghe once had ethnic groups ranging from Somali, Afar, Argobba, Harari, Silte, Amhara, Harla, Oromo as well as now extinct ones like the Mayya people, pretty much all of these groups became Oromo. All these groups, except the Amhara and Mayya, have also historically been Muslim for over 500 years. There’s no way of knowing who’s who for sure but a breakdown of the Afran qallo subs and which Somali clans are within them is a good indicator.

Afran Qallo:
Dagga- Includes Jarso, Humme and Noole.

Jarso are of dir Somali origin but their are oromos and daroods amongst them. They’re mostly Somali with some Oromos amongst them.

Humme are almost entirely of Somali origin. Although they now no longer exist, it used to include Barsuuq Dir (also claimed by Arap isaaq), Sheekhal and other local clans like samaroon. They’re entirely Somali

Noole are the largest Dagga sub. Most of the Oromo you will find in Dir dhabe are Noole. Noole as a clan is probably majority of Oromo origin however they have subclans that trace to many Somali clans mostly dir and darood. Many noole clans are also harari in origin and in harar Oromo extremists pressure hararis into identifying with Noole to put them under the Oromo umbrella. They’re mostly Oromo (or atleast Somalis assimilated very early on), with some hararis and Somalis amongst them

Oborra- Akichu/Akisho is a subclan of Oborra. Whether they were originally or became it over time allahu aclam. Other than that don’t know much about these guys

Alla- The largest subclan in Afran qallo. I don’t know much about them either as they hardly border Somalis (except maybe samroon and sheekhaal) but I heard there are Argobba amongst them

Baabili- kuwaan are just straight up Hawiye man. Their subclans include “Karanla” and “Gugundhaba”. They know their hawiye themselves and aren’t fully assimilated, just in politics.

Next biggest contester in hararghe is Ittu oromos who have Argobba, Harari, Afar, Somali, Oromo and whatever other ethnic group in the region who are now part of them. After them you have Karaayu who some say are entirely Karanle in origin. The name “Karaayu” is said to be a mispronounciation of the “Kaariye” subclan of Karanle Hawiye

Spot on. The karaayu oromo are Kaariye and if you were to vist Metahara (East Shewa) today they will tell you they are Karanle in origin.

 

[hawlwadaagsoldier]

Balbalayti, Chiro, deder, miesso baadiyo, Galemso, asebot and the rest of western hararghe is possibly the biggest strategic loss the Somali ethnic group has suffered. If we still lived on this land we would have had the opportunity to cut Ethiopia clean in half from on top of the mountains facing the rift if war was to ever break out. Starting from the awash river (webi dir) through metehara where ciise still live down to Borana would have been an indestructible wall.View attachment 257546

Wallahi Dir and Hawiye lost too much crucial territory in western hararghe

Brother to be honest the hawiye haven't lost these lands in terms of population. We just lost the administration to these important and strategic lands

I thought Qallu were a separate oromo-Somali clan, they still attend Sheekhaal clan meetings in harar and are considered by the Qudub in eastern hararghe as normal sheekhaal Somalis who speak afaan oromo

But If Qallu are part of Ittu then Ittu is a massive confederacy. They would pretty much dominate the whole of western hararghe into dir dhabe as qallu live in the city heavily. They could easily be the largest Qabil in greater hararghe if you don’t group the Afran qallo subs (Jarso, Humme, Noole, Alla, Obooro) together.

There are still samaroon in Chiro? There used to be a lot of hawiye in that region are they still there aswell?

I can’t speak for dir but unfortunately the opposite is happening with Karanle. They are moving in mass to Jigjiga and Daynille and leaving their land unattended and vulnerable. Sometimes to escape oromo but most cases it’s in search of a better life since their Karanle brothers already have the largest district in Mogadishu. This is a big problem with all Hawiye not just Karanle, Mogadishu has too strong a pull on our clan.

Especially sexawle karanle, they are a very large community in Daynille my abtis mum hails from them. In my opinion it should be murusade from daynille migrating to hararghe but the average karanle or hawiye isn’t thinking about hararghe outside of maybe Baabile and Miesso. The situation would be very different if there were a larger louder community of us there or even if the hawiyes up there were hiraabs. But neither of those are true and as of now hararghe is too far and foreign to be of any interest to hawiye as a clan. Karanle are capable of defending the land they still have, borders haven’t shifted in a while but when conflict does break out they are welcomed to Mogadishu.

Aside from the fact that IOG doesn’t give a shit, Ciise in Djibouti can’t take side in a conflict between the two biggest tribes in their own country happening in a foreign country. It will only lead to the conflict spilling over. Ethiopia is also Djibouti’s biggest trade partner whom they heavily rely on. They have too much to loose. It will take all Somalis being on the same page to halt our loss of land. For that to happen Cagjar gotta go and Ogaden gotta stop bringing cucks like him into power.

Sixawle is untouchable. This Karanle elder will tell you that they are the xoog in that region and even annexed land from the oromo. All the way into kilil 4 sixawle and hawiye are the majority in 7 to 8 kebele. All over Harar is surrounded by Hawiye settlements. From awash to sidama to Kilil 5 to Oromia and Bale all the way to Somalia the Gugundhabe and Karanle are widespread speaking different dialects and languages. This elder breaks it into Hawiye Awash who speak Arabic, Hawiye xideedka are bilingual Somali/Oromo, Hawiye harta Bari, Hawiye Sidamo and Hawiye Bale all speaking different languages 1st video Skip to 1:27 onwards. 2nd video skip to 5:30

 

[Awd]

Spot on. The karaayu oromo are Kaariye and if you were to vist Metahara (East Shewa) today they will tell you they are Karanle in origin.

Metehara is Karrayu Oromo, Afar and Dir territory. The Samaroon and Ciise still live there until today and remained there permanently.

 

[hawlwadaagsoldier]

Metehara is Karrayu Oromo, Afar and Dir territory. The Samaroon and Ciise still live there until today and remained there permanently.

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We know this. Karaayu Oromo are Kaariye Karanle hawiye and will tell you that themselves. They are the natives of this region before Dir moved in. Unfortunately they are going through heavy assimilation till this day.

 

[Jaale Ugaas]

I don't know about you but I will follow the advice of my tol Sheikh Trump and Emir Nur Ibn Mujahid.

#BuildAWall

 

[Rackzzz]

100% we need to start making more oromo packs

 

[Jaale Ugaas]

100% we need to start making more oromo packs

oromo packs is that what @Arma smokes?

 

[AfranQallo]

Do you know a tribe name 'Oobe' or 'Obe'? Apparently they were Oromo and now claim Akiisho

Obo* it’s a subclan of Akichu which is a sub clan of Oborra Afran Qallo.

 

[AfranQallo]

Spot on. The karaayu oromo are Kaariye and if you were to vist Metahara (East Shewa) today they will tell you they are Karanle in origin.

Karra Hayyu = Karrayyu, the oldest and purest Bareentu Oromos. They’re not Hawiye. The Hawiye you’re speaking of are the within the Babile subclan living around Babille.

Are you trying to say the Wallo Oromos are Kaariye as well, they’re a subclan of Karrayyu.

So is the Boran clan of Karrayyu, they’re originally the same as those in the Awash that got added into the Boran clan. This clan has nothing to do with Karanle.

 

[CulturedKay]

Obo* it’s a subclan of Akichu which is a sub clan of Oborra Afran Qallo.

Wait, I thought Akiisho was Dir

 

[AfranQallo]

Wait, I thought Akiisho was Dir

Those amongst Somalis are now Dir. They initially were a client clan of Habar Awal, but are originally Oromo.

Many still live amongst Oromos and claim Oromo.

 

[Garaad diinle]

We know this. Karaayu Oromo are Kaariye Karanle hawiye and will tell you that themselves. They are the natives of this region before Dir moved in. Unfortunately they are going through heavy assimilation till this day.

You know what there might be some truth to it. The karaayu oromo found in shewa are camel pastoralist with the same camel culture as that of the somalis. We know that historically speaking and even to the present time oromo were not camel pastoralist. I even saw an oromo that places the karaayu oromo under samaale so we might be on to something.

 

[Abdisamad]

Our largest customers are your brethern to the north, what do you mean you don’t buy from us.

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[CulturedKay]

Those amongst Somalis are now Dir. They initially were a client clan of Habar Awal, but are originally Oromo.

Many still live amongst Oromos and claim Oromo.

So what would a person who is from the clan obo's DNA ancestry makeup look like.... ?

 

[AfranQallo]

So what would a person who is from the clan obo's DNA ancestry makeup look like.... ?

I think they’d differ a little genetically. Those still living in Hararge, would show higher Ethiopian results from regions of Oromia, Harari and Somali. Whereas those closer to Somalis and mixed with them would show more Somali percentages.

 

[CulturedKay]

I think they’d differ a little genetically. Those still living in Hararge, would show higher Ethiopian results from regions of Oromia, Harari and Somali. Whereas those closer to Somalis and mixed with them would show more Somali percentages.

Hmm, interesting. Never knew this till recently but my dad's mum is Obo - akiisho.

My DNA composition only reflects my dad's paternal grandma's who is Ethiopian (I'm 13.9% Ethiopian) which coincides with what I already knew.

If my dads mum's clan was Oromo I would have significantly higher or a little more Ethiopian in my results don't you think?

 

[AfranQallo]

Hmm, interesting. Never knew this till recently but my dad's mum is Obo - akiisho.

My DNA composition only reflects my dad's paternal grandma's who is Ethiopian (I'm 13.9% Ethiopian) which coincides with what I already knew.

If my dads mum's clan was Oromo I would have significantly higher or a little more Ethiopian in my results don't you think?

Interesting info. If you don’t mind me asking, is your dads grandma Oromo or Harari?

I really don’t know how all the genetic stuff works. All I know is Akichu(Akisho) were originally Oromo and were one of the clans mentioned in the Oromo expansion. They are the ones who went furthest east.

If your Obo grandma hails from an area with a Somali population, she would have or her family would have heavily mixed with the local Somalis. Has your dad done the dna test? If so what’s his maternal haplogroup or any of your relatives from that branch.

I’d like to see some Akichu results, they’d be interesting. Many Hararge Oromos show anywhere from 10% to 40-45% on their dna results. At least those living in east Hararge and the related people on my dna results.