A Final Solution to the GREATER SOMALIA Question

[Zero]

SOMALI UNION - a EU style political and economic union with a single market, customs union, borderless freedom of movement, possibly with a single currency and a NATO style security arrangement between sovereign somali states.

Yeah that is not going to happen.Do you know how much Darood outnumber us?You think they wont all migrate up north? That they wont cause problems within our demographics?We already have enough problems with some Isaaqs intermarrying with Daroods which produces children with conflicting ideas and cause desunity.

We literally just approved a law last year that denies children born between an union of Isaaq and Darood(not native to SL) citizenship in Somaliland.And you want to propose borderless freedom of movement?

Get out of here.

 

[RasCanjero-]

A Somali union is too weak to control the chaotic forces within clan politics.

Some clans would want to try to dominate the union while others would rather destroy it than let that other clan have power over them.

We should either have an authoritarian central government based in a newly built capital or we should all go our own way.

 

[Deactivated]

Our Uranium can answer those questions.

 

[whitehartlane]

The only offer available to isaaq folks is to get in line with other somalis and be part of the solution.. isaaq only federal state with mogadishu as the main federal capital.

We can always work out together the smaller finer details

1/5 of the country will not get special treatments over the other 4/5 of the country..

 

[Zero]

The only offer available to isaaq folks is to get in line with other somalis and be part of the solution.. isaaq only federal state with mogadishu as the main federal capital.

We can always work out together the smaller finer details

1/5 of the country will not get special treatments over the other 4/5 of the country..

In what world do you think Isaaqs care about what the SFG and you non landers opinions are?

Pre 1961 union your people had no business with us and the union that ONLY lasted 30 years died in a bloodfest.Ever since we have reclaimed our independence and have been a defacto state for almost 30 years in which the SL goverment and its army only operated within our borders.We couldn't careless about SFG and Somalia in general if they left us alone and didn't aggressively provoke us and continue to stir up trouble.

 

[whitehartlane]

In what world do you think Isaaqs care about what the SFG and you non landers opinions are?

Pre 1961 union your people had no business with us and the union that ONLY lasted 30 years died in a bloodfest.Ever since we have reclaimed our independence and have been a defacto state for almost 30 years in which the SL goverment and its army only operated within our borders.We couldn't careless about SFG and Somalia in general if they left us alone and didn't aggressively provoke us and continue to stir up trouble.

A selective group of people can not force all the non isaaq and even half of isaaq into a delusional world.. besides we dont need no arab/western satelite state that said organisations use to exploit somalis in the horn...
We have to have one united front by all means necessary... then and then only can we determine the safety and well being of our offsprings....

But i dont expect you to understand something as logical as that..you swallows the ictiraaf pill..

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Maybe you would like to ponder over why eritreans are fleeing in the 1000s on a monthly basis eventhough they have had 27 years ago forfilled what you have been trying for nearly 3 decades....tahriib is your largest export and will continue being so based on the statistics that are available..if you think you are a special breed and dont need to share a progressive nation with other somalis, .....take a look at eritrea first and south sudan...i can assure you somaliland wont be much different its your destiny as an independent country.... we are not divorcing you for your own sake..

 

[Zero]

A selective group of people can not force all the non isaaq and even half of isaaq into a delusional world.. besides we dont need no arab/western satelite state that said organisations use to exploit somalis in the horn...
We have to have one united front by all means necessary... then and then only can we determine the safety and well being of our offsprings....

But i dont expect you to understand something as logical as that..you swallows the ictiraaf pill..

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Maybe you would like to ponder over why eritreans are fleeing in the 1000s on a monthly basis eventhough they have had 27 years ago forfilled what you have been trying for nearly 3 decades....tahriib is your largest export and will continue being so based on the statistics that are available..if you think you are a special breed and dont need to share a progressive nation with other somalis, .....take a look at eritrea first and south sudan...i can assure you somaliland wont be much different its your destiny as an independent country.... we are not divorcing you for your own sake..

Again.
Pre 1961 union your people had no business with us and the union that ONLY lasted for 30 years died in a bloodfest.

The delusional one is you who believes that the indepented democratic defacto state of Somaliland which has a peacefull and stabile goverment and a military that secures its borders FOR ALMOST 30 years would somehow give up all that to join the shitfest that is Somalia which a goverment that controles 30% of its capital city.

No Arab,Westerner and whomever else inflicted such horrendous acts of war upon the somali people and exploited them like the SFG and your people in the south did.

 

[waraabe]

Mogadishu can’t be the capital city cause the tribes there have looted Somalis homes and lands likewise hargaisa can’t be the capital city cause the tribes there have looted the homes and lands of Somalis before the civil war and djbouti can’t be the capital cause it has a military base there French British the United States all have their troops there it’s a red light district for those troops that’s why there’s so many brothels and bars night clubs prostitutes there I have been there so and was amazed what I have seen half the airport is occupied by foreign troops it’s a military base.

well the capital cant be bosaso because its a small town and its near isis and al shabab bases in puntland, garowe is a village and kismayo is under mudane uhuru who is busting nuts in jubbaland right now while your cousins throw rocks at his tanks like Palestinians

 

[waraabe]

No way, kenya just took jubbaland.. we arent saving uhuru's colony

 

[whitehartlane]

Again.
Pre 1961 union your people had no business with us and the union that ONLY lasted for 30 years died in a bloodfest.

The delusional one is you who believes that the indepented democratic defacto state of Somaliland which has a peacefull and stabile goverment and a military that secures its borders FOR ALMOST 30 years would somehow give up all that to join the shitfest that is Somalia which a goverment that controles 30% of its capital city.

No Arab,Westerner and whomever else inflicted such horrendous acts of war upon the somali people and exploited them like the SFG and your people in the south did.

Why are you making it sound like prior to the english/italian colonization we had different flags/currencies and hard borders between us..

You do realise your entire british history is mere 4 decades..4 decades does not seperate people who are bound by blood.

Somalis had qabiil nomadic grazing borders that were not patrolled and not set in stones..and everybody knew where everybody was.

Somalis always had some sort of decentralised form governance like the xeer.. you are lying when you say all isaaq had a centralised administration that was only for isaaq and there was a centralised form of governance for all non isaaq..

Thats a blatant lie.. you can not and will not change the future of somalis based on 4 decade colonial history...

If you want to argue about somali history talk to me about our history prior to the english and the italians... and tell me how you were special breeds.


Question?
Please elaborate on how MY people and how the somali federal government have inflicted such horrendeous acts of war upon the somali people...

My people have been around for a very long time, put them aside...so lets take an example of the SFG..what attrocities did they commit..

If anything if you compare the blood spilt by mj and the blood spilt by isaaq you will see that your arguments holds no water.. and if we are demonize people based on the wars they have commit i can assure you that we mjs have never in our history shed as much blood as you have shed during your habro wars..

FYI this:
Indepented democratic defacto state of Somaliland..

1)Non existant democracy
2)libertarian economics (zero government influence just like the rest of the country.
3)independent? How are you independent?

30 years yet your capital is without water waste sanitation, regulated healthcare or regulated education system..your democracy is farce if it wasnt cirro would have been president and not muuse biixi..

Forget about somalia, try to compete with puntland inabti..you are just another dusty (litterally) regional state with a glorified president who is in it for his pockets and for the pride of his clans men

 

[BANTU]

@whitehartlane you don't know a single thing about Somaliland back to the drawing board