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Republic of Somaliland was never colonised
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The other map is even more embarrassing for the thread starter
I don't know why I keep seeing this fallacious claim going around that Somaliland wasn't colonized. Somaliland was obviously colonized by the British, same way the south was colonized by the Italians, and Djibouti was colonized by the French. However, there is definitely some truth to the idea that the British didn't care about Somaliland, they literally called us "Aden's Butchershop" after all. They didn't have much of a presence initially beyond few buildings in Berbera, and later Hargeisa, Borama and Burao.
Quotes from above article scan which is literally called "The colony that rejected freedom":
"Somaliland, eastern gateway to Dark Africa, was barely worth a sniff in the world's press until 3 days ago. Now it has become an area of national significance"
"Barren, barely hospitable, and pointless"
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Kkkkk this thread shows the delusion of snm
Even little old peaceful warsengeli have more legitamacy to be a country of their own if we go by colonial or pre colonial existence as an administration...
It's a fact tht can't be disputed that isaaq as a clan were irrelevant prior to colonization during colonization or right after colonization..
It's a fact tht can't be disputed that isaaq as a clan were irrelevant prior to colonization during colonization or right after colonization..
I thought Somalia gained independence that day? Or was it SL
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I don't know why I keep seeing this fallacious claim going around that Somaliland wasn't colonized. Somaliland was obviously colonized by the British, same way the south was colonized by the Italians, and Djibouti was colonized by the French. However, there is definitely some truth to the idea that the British didn't care about Somaliland, they literally called us "Aden's Butchershop" after all. They didn't have much of a presence initially beyond few buildings in Berbera, and later Hargeisa, Borama and Burao.
Quotes from above article scan which is literally called "The colony that rejected freedom":
"Somaliland, eastern gateway to Dark Africa, was barely worth a sniff in the world's press until 3 days ago. Now it has become an area of national significance"
"Barren, barely hospitable, and pointless"
You arn't very intelligent are you? Just because a newspaper refers to Somaliland as a "colony" does not invalidate the entire Somaliland history and that the clans signed treaties with Britain which made it a Protectorate rather than a Colony. This was a smart business and security decision and at the time. There are even documents deposited at the United Nations confirming that Somaliland was a protectorate. Just in case you don't know what a treaty is
"A Treaty is a formally concluded and ratified agreement between states."
Instead of hating just because this thread refers to Somaliland, you should appreciate you Somali history. Somaliland was one of the few African countries that were never colonised. It was the first Somali territory to re-declare its independence when it signed a new Treaty Agreement with the UK. Somaliland will always be in Somaliland history for this reason.
Jeez these Somali Unionist Extremists are frothing at the mouth whenever Somaliland is mentioned. Somaliland history is undeniably. Ka nax oo naftaa waa
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Interesting that the Italian colonial settlers were in every major town in South Somalia. They had plantations, bantu slaves and numbered upto 270,000. No wonder Somalia imploded after they left. They were not used to governing themselves. That is why the South has been so chaotic since the Italians left them to their own devices.
The South experienced a complete and utter breakdown of traditional governance systems. The odayaal, clan elders were all abandoned and had no authority once the Italian colonial administrative machine moved in. Instead Italian mafia culture took root especially in cities and towns like Mogadishu and Kismaayo. People became used to centralised forms of governance administrated by others, namely Italians. The Italians build schools, a large cathedral, administrative buildings, roads and even a railway.
The South experienced a complete and utter breakdown of traditional governance systems. The odayaal, clan elders were all abandoned and had no authority once the Italian colonial administrative machine moved in. Instead Italian mafia culture took root especially in cities and towns like Mogadishu and Kismaayo. People became used to centralised forms of governance administrated by others, namely Italians. The Italians build schools, a large cathedral, administrative buildings, roads and even a railway.
In 1935, there were over 50,000 Italians living in Italian Somaliland. Of those, 20,000 resided in Mogadishu (called Mogadiscio in Italian), representing around 40% of the city's 50,000 residents. Other Italian settler communities were concentrated in the Villaggio Duca degli Abruzzi, Adale (Itala in Italian), Janale, Jamame, and Kismayo.[2][32][33] The same year, during the Second Italo-Ethiopian War, there were more than 220,000 Italian soldiers stationed in Italian Somaliland.[34]
By March 1940, over 30,000 Italians lived in Mogadishu, representing around 33% of the city's total 90,000 residents.[35][36] They frequented local Italian schools that the colonial authorities had opened, such as the Liceum.[29]
Italian Somalis were concentrated in the cities of Mogadishu, Merca, Baidoa, Kismayo and the agricultural areas of the riverine Jubba and Shebelle valleys (around Jowhar/Villaggio Duca degli Abruzzi).
By March 1940, over 30,000 Italians lived in Mogadishu, representing around 33% of the city's total 90,000 residents.[35][36] They frequented local Italian schools that the colonial authorities had opened, such as the Liceum.[29]
Italian Somalis were concentrated in the cities of Mogadishu, Merca, Baidoa, Kismayo and the agricultural areas of the riverine Jubba and Shebelle valleys (around Jowhar/Villaggio Duca degli Abruzzi).
daroods made the north relevant..
Warsangeli
Dervish State consist of all northern Somali tribes such as Garxajis and Habar Jeclo. Stop spreading jeberti shoe theif propaganda and read some books.
They are so blinded by their hatred of Somaliland they can't see that this is Somali history they should be proud of
Very sad
If it was a story about the AMISOM mercenaries who are benefiting from the conflict in South Somalia they would say "our African brothers are so great, they have come to help South Somalia". But anything Somaliland related they will foam at the mouth like rabid dogs
Walahi dadkani waa imtixaan
Again this supports my hypothesis
The rot in the administration/governance of South Somalia started a long time ago
Somaliland and Puntland ruled themselves for the most part
Traditional forms of governance were maintained
You can see on the map that the Italian colonial offices and settlements were focussed in the south
This is the curse of having rivers and resources, whereas Somaliland and Puntland have less resources and are left alone
Ironically yet Somaliland and Puntland have few to no resources, but are more successful
The term "colony" doesn't just imply political control, but also the settlement of outsiders by the imperial power:
Somaliland wasn't a colony for one simple reason: it was so barren and uninteresting that nobody wanted to settle there.
It wasn't like the South, which was coveted and remains coveted because of its rivers and pristine green farmlands.
But just because you weren't technically a colony doesn't mean you were free from imperial control. No, the Brittish termed you a "protectorate" because they had to protect your langaab assees from Sayid Abdullah Hassan and the dervishes. In exchange for their protection, you gave them tribute of sheep and goats for their soldiers in Yemen, and also s from fucking street for their enjoyment.
Somaliland wasn't a colony for one simple reason: it was so barren and uninteresting that nobody wanted to settle there.
It wasn't like the South, which was coveted and remains coveted because of its rivers and pristine green farmlands.
But just because you weren't technically a colony doesn't mean you were free from imperial control. No, the Brittish termed you a "protectorate" because they had to protect your langaab assees from Sayid Abdullah Hassan and the dervishes. In exchange for their protection, you gave them tribute of sheep and goats for their soldiers in Yemen, and also s from fucking street for their enjoyment.
Finally someone with an iota of sense. A colony indeed implies that it was in a significant part occupied by settlers from the colonising country.
You speak the truth in the first two paragraphs. Somaliland (and also Puntland, Somali Galbeed, NFD) were never colonised
On the topic of the Sayid. The sayid started off with the just path and was supported by all clans
Then like Afweyne after him he became power hungry and qabyalad got into his mind, soul and heart
That is when he became 'Mad Mullah' and killed thousands upon thousands of innocent people. He ordered his troops to raid and kill clans that would not give him their camels and resources.
The terrorist was eventually beaten in the end when he went mad and started killing innocent civillians and he lost the local population
That is when the local population turned against him and he lost the war and died an outcast, hiding out in the bushes, of influenza and diarrea
He was the original al shabab terrorist
You arn't very intelligent are you? Just because a newspaper refers to Somaliland as a "colony" does not invalidate the entire Somaliland history and that the clans signed treaties with Britain which made it a Protectorate rather than a Colony. This was a smart business and security decision and at the time. There are even documents deposited at the United Nations confirming that Somaliland was a protectorate. Just in case you don't know what a treaty is
"A Treaty is a formally concluded and ratified agreement between states."
Instead of hating just because this thread refers to Somaliland, you should appreciate you Somali history. Somaliland was one of the few African countries that were never colonised. It was the first Somali territory to re-declare its independence when it signed a new Treaty Agreement with the UK. Somaliland will always be in Somaliland history for this reason.
Jeez these Somali Unionist Extremists are frothing at the mouth whenever Somaliland is mentioned. Somaliland history is undeniably. Ka nax oo naftaa waa
I'm a Somalilander.:siilaanyosmile:
And I proved you wrong already. Work on your reading comprehension skills and go over my first reply to you again.
Hold this L little nigga :siilaanyolaugh:
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