Districts that joined Puntland post 1998

[Thegoodshepherd]

Anigo Soomaali ugu laandheersan laangaab Dir ah in uu dhulka jilibkayga sheegto waa igu ceeb. Ka fiirso hadalkaga waryaa.

Fyi xuduudaha beesha Darood meel walba aye joogaan kor ayan kala socda.
For example: Beesha Reer Afgaab expanded into Isiolo South constituency this week.

 

[RobleTheRainMan]

Their grazing lands do not extend immediately North of Afbarwaaqo but you are right that Reer Nimcaale graze in the Golol Area.

Dooxo golool is stretches from afbarwaaqo to southern Jariiban and it is inhabited by reer nimcaale and shiikhaal

 

[Cotton Eyed Joe]

Dhinowda is settled by Sheekhaal, Cabdi Ciise and Surre regardless of that it's always been part of Puntland.

 

[Cotton Eyed Joe]

Omar Mahamud don't border moryaans to the south, it's Surre. There's no moryaans in Jariibaan and the Surre live intermingled with Omar Mahamud there's no concise border towards the coast.

 

[Starscream]

@anonimo hadii Hobyo lagaa soo eryay, xaq uma lihid in aad Jariiban ila sheegatid.


100% of Jariiban district is open grazing land for Reer Mahad and Cabdi Cisse. They both graze until Ceel Dhanaane and Towfiiq. Wax dhul ah oo Dir gaar u sheegan karo ma laha Jariiban. Miss me with that shit. Kulaha southern Jariiban district!



Dhinowda is a shared deegaan with Cabdi Cisse, no one has an exclusive claim to it. It is under Puntland. Not a single inch of Jariiban district is off limits to Cumar Maxmuud. You can build your town where ever you want, but I own that land.

Ceel dhanan is dir
Dir live all the way near the border between nugaal and north mudug.

 

[anonimo]

Dooxo golool is stretches from afbarwaaqo to southern Jariiban and it is inhabited by reer nimcaale and shiikhaal

Since we had beef in the early noughties, our camels do not cross paths. Anything North of Afbarwaaqo is off-limits to HG and anything South is off-limits to us due to unsettled bad blood.

Anigo Soomaali ugu laandheersan laangaab Dir ah in uu dhulka jilibkayga sheegto waa igu ceeb. Ka fiirso hadalkaga waryaa.

Fyi xuduudaha beesha Darood meel walba aye joogaan kor ayan kala socda.
For example: Beesha Reer Afgaab expanded into Isiolo South constituency this week.

Allow the Faan. Just like when you claimed Koobme is equal to Ciise in Ethiopia, this is not an argument you will win. Why did you chicken out of the thread by the way? You have gone soft from debating youths on Sspot but your BS doesn't wash with me man. You think Mudug is like the Deep South, you don't grain grazing land by being meek. Claim what you want online but the facts on the ground speak for themselves.

In regard to elections, do you remember this thread on somnet when you were going on about winning the presidency in a hypothetical situation. Tell me how is that going to happen if Darood are only 32% of the Somali population as you claimed? Bus all the Niggas you want but it will boil down to alliances, and your clan does not outnumber the rest.

 

[Suhaib]

Since we had beef in the early noughties, our camels do not cross paths. Anything North of Afbarwaaqo is off-limits to HG and anything South is off-limits to us due to unsettled bad blood.



Allow the Faan. Just like when you claimed Koobme is equal to Ciise in Ethiopia, this is not an argument you will win. Why did you chicken out of the thread by the way? You have gone soft from debating youths on Sspot but your BS doesn't wash with me man. You think Mudug is like the Deep South, you don't grain grazing land by being meek. Claim what you want online but the facts on the ground speak for themselves.

In regard to elections, do you remember this thread on somnet when you were going on about winning the presidency in a hypothetical situation. Tell me how is that going to happen if Darood are only 32% of the Somali population as you claimed? Bus all the Niggas you want but it will boil down to alliances, and your clan does not outnumber the rest.

Since when is Dir bigger than Hawiye?

 

[Factz]

Since when is Dir bigger than Hawiye?

To be honest sxb. If we're going to add Dir and Isaaq together. They would be the biggest Somali clan and even much bigger than Darood, forget Hawiye. Unless you take Isaaq out then ofcourse Dir is not bigger than Hawiye.

 

[Suhaib]

To be honest sxb. If we're going to add Dir and Isaaq together. They would be the biggest Somali clan and even much bigger than Darood, forget Hawiye. Unless you take Isaaq out then ofcourse Dir is not bigger than Hawiye.

I thought so, Isaaq had to have been included. So you guys are a subclan of Dir then?

 

[Factz]

I thought so, Isaaq had to have been included. So you guys are a subclan of Dir then?

Let's just say most Isaaq do not consider themselves Dir as they believe to be a large stand alone clan that is bigger than Dir.

Here are the Somali clan percentages. If you combind Isaaq and Dir together. They would make up 29% of the Somali population.

 

[Bohol]

To be honest sxb. If we're going to add Dir and Isaaq together. They would be the biggest Somali clan and even much bigger than Darood, forget Hawiye. Unless you take Isaaq out then ofcourse Dir is not bigger than Hawiye.

Hawiye is a giant lol. People assume they only live in Somalia borders but they inhabit 40% of NFD and also southern Somali region (Liban Zone) and the far north west (Degodia, Murule, Karanle).

 

[Factz]

Hawiye is a giant lol. People assume they only live in Somalia borders but they inhabit 40% of NFD and also southern Somali region and the far north west (Degodia, Murule, Karanle).

Yeah, people definitely underestimate Hawiye. I'm saying Isaaq + Dir would be the largest Somali clan.

 

[Bohol]

@Factz I am not sure within Somalia since Benadir region alone has nearly 2 million people. Somaliland is very underpopulated compared to the Hawiye areas in Somalia. Maybe if you add all the Dirs of Ethiopia. However Hawiye also have big populations in Ethiopia
and NFD.

 

[Factz]

@Factz I am not sure within Somalia. Maybe if you add all the Dirs of Ethiopia. However Hawiye also have big populations in Ethiopia and NFD.

Yeah, I'm well aware Hawiye living in Ethiopia and Kenya. They are estimated to be 25% of the Somali population.

Dir and Isaaq make up 35% of the Somali region then you have Somaliland and Djibouti. They also have sizeable population in Somalia and NFD.

With all of this. They make up 29% of the Somali population as you can see from below.

 

[Bohol]

@Factz those percentages are for Somalis living within Somalia borders not all Somalis.


It is from the CIA. Somalia's clan families.

 

[Factz]

@Factz those percentages are for Somalis living within Somalia borders nor all Somalis.


It is from the CIA. Somalia's clan families.

That looks made up, can you show me the link? My sources talks about IRIR in Somaliweyn and divides the percentages.

 

[Bohol]

That looks made up, can you show me the link? My sources talks about IRIR in Somaliweyn and divides the percentages.

Nope. It is everywhere. Those percentages are for Somalia borders only. Do you think Darood
would be 20% of Somalia if the NFD and Somali region ones were included lol? use your common sense.

http://legacy.lib.utexas.edu/maps/africa/txu-pclmaps-oclc-795784383-somalia_2012_clan_distro.jpg

 

[Factz]

Nope. It is everywhere. Those percentages are for Somalia borders only. Do you think Darood
would be 20% of Somalia if the NFD and Somali region ones were included lol? sometimes it
is good to use your common sense.

http://legacy.lib.utexas.edu/maps/africa/txu-pclmaps-oclc-795784383-somalia_2012_clan_distro.jpg

Darood population is mostly over exaggerated by their faan. Their lands are not dense as Hawiye or Isaaq. Some of their lands are empty and just a place to graze.

It's still true though. If Isaaq were considered a sub-clan of Dir. That would make it the biggest Somali clan.

 

[Bohol]

Darood population is mostly over exaggerated by their faan. Their lands are not dense as Hawiye or Isaaq. Some of their lands are empty and just a place to graze.

It's still true though. If Isaaq were considered a sub-clan of Dir. That would make it the biggest Somali clan.

I agree within Somalia it is over exaggerated hence why lots of sources show them as 20% of
Somalia however if we include Somali region of Ethiopia and NFD ones then the percentage
would be significantly higher than that. Same goes for Dir, they are not big in Somalia but
big in Ethiopia.

 

[Cumar]

@Bohol @Factz

This source includes Ethiopia and NFD.

Somalia has one major ethnic group, one language, and one religion. The existence of six major clans — Daarood (35 percent of the population), Hawiye (23 percent), Isaaq (23 percent), Digil and Rahanwayan (11 percent of the population) and the Dir (7 percent of the population).

http://www.hartford-hwp.com/archives/33/006.html