UPDATE Civil war enters second year in Ethiopia

[Sheikh Kulkuli]

They are in the long term, while tplf is in the short term, i.e. because tplf is not in the heart of the empire like oromia is, is not as important as oromia is, etc.
long term is the game for thinkers, short term is for those with no foresight to see where things are going. simply put, it takes a wise man to have foresight.

I dont know what your smoking but its full of shit.

 

[Nilotic]

Kani waa mowduuc aad xiiso u leh, laakin it now has 229 pages

 

[Abba Sadacha]

Oromos


Oromos can’t be led by secularist Christian mercenaries who want to marginalize muslim Oromos. OLF is a failed Milita. Abiy Ahmed has clearly abused the weak Oromos like Jawar Mohamed. There’s no long term game. OLF does not have sympathy from majority of oromia. Only an Islamic army can liberate oromia not a dirty one led by the stinking pagan hiding in those dirty forests.

You are mischaracterizing the Oromo cause and struggle. Religion is not an issue for us, because Oromo's are targeted as a nation, regardless of the religion of the Oromo.
If it were failed, then Abiy would not be sending in Eritreans, his own forces, etc, to fight it, and he wouldn't be losing land in Oromia to them. Just because you don't see or hear of what they're doing; doesn't mean that they're ''failed.''
That statement, is based on conjecture and your non-informed-opinion as well, ''OLF doesn't have majority sympathy in oromia,'' what is that based on? have you done the research? no.
if OLF weren't more popular, first of all, the party of abiy-opdo/pp oromo wing, wouldn't even exist! secondly, it wouldn't have targeted the olf leadership to ensure they don't compete in the recent elections fair and square.

 

[Abba Sadacha]

Oromos


Oromos can’t be led by secularist Christian mercenaries who want to marginalize muslim Oromos. OLF is a failed Milita. Abiy Ahmed has clearly abused the weak Oromos like Jawar Mohamed. There’s no long term game. OLF does not have sympathy from majority of oromia. Only an Islamic army can liberate oromia not a dirty one led by the stinking pagan hiding in those dirty forests.

https://myviewsonnews.net/oromo-amhara-militias-step-up-attacks-amid-escalating-ethnic-violence/

 

[Abba Sadacha]

Oromos


Oromos can’t be led by secularist Christian mercenaries who want to marginalize muslim Oromos. OLF is a failed Milita. Abiy Ahmed has clearly abused the weak Oromos like Jawar Mohamed. There’s no long term game. OLF does not have sympathy from majority of oromia. Only an Islamic army can liberate oromia not a dirty one led by the stinking pagan hiding in those dirty forests.

Abiys own man admits OLA controls 396 towns in Oromia.

 

[Gardy]

I am saying, you siding with atheists tplf, over muslim afar, is wrong and illogical. that's it.

You are mischaracterizing the Oromo cause and struggle. Religion is not an issue for us, because Oromo's are targeted as a nation, regardless of the religion of the Oromo.

So religion is an issue when it comes to somali cause but not for oromo cause

Qotti logic at its best

 

[Gardy]

Abiys own man admits OLA controls 396 towns in Oromia.

I dont get why youre repeating the same BS again and again, but these cowards control nowhere in ethiopia except some fox holes in areas like wellega, these are controlled opposition meant only to evict amhara out of oromia region. If they happen to control a single town in oromia we would've seen law enforcement operation in oromia but only the fact that there is no major military operation in oromia tells us the absolite insignificance of OLA.

 

[Gardy]

They are in the long term, while tplf is in the short term, i.e. because tplf is not in the heart of the empire like oromia is, is not as important as oromia is, etc.
long term is the game for thinkers, short term is for those with no foresight to see where things are going. simply put, it takes a wise man to have foresight.

What do you mean by long term?? Its already been decades long since these militia seeking to take control of oromia and still they have no single major town under their control, so how many other decades do we have to wait till OLA takes control of single town in oromia

 

[Sheikh Kulkuli]

So religion is an issue when it comes to somali cause but not for oromo cause

Qotti logic at its best

This guy cannot differentiate his ass from hims mouth wa gudafad.

 

[Abba Sadacha]

So religion is an issue when it comes to somali cause but not for oromo cause

Qotti logic at its best

because the oromo and somali causes, situations, historical relations with ethiopia, etc, are COMPLETELY different.

 

[Abba Sadacha]

What do you mean by long term?? Its already been decades long since these militia seeking to take control of oromia and still they have no single major town under their control, so how many other decades do we have to wait till OLA takes control of single town in oromia

is that why their own mp says OLA controls over 396 towns? and not from the point of view of viewing OLA as a non factor? not only that, most of oromia is rural anyway, so controlling the rural areas is more important than the urban areas/ that's where you recruit, setup administrations, etc.

 

[Gardy]

because the oromo and somali causes, situations, historical relations with ethiopia, etc, are COMPLETELY different.

Yet we still have our own causes, right, so the questions was why religion matters only when it comes to somali cause but you opted to wander around cuz you have no answer regarding your pure hypocrisy

 

[Gardy]

is that why their own mp says OLA controls over 396 towns? and not from the point of view of viewing OLA as a non factor? not only that, most of oromia is rural anyway, so controlling the rural areas is more important than the urban areas/ that's where you recruit, setup administrations, etc.

I dont think no except amhara would fall for oromumma lies, abiy is using OLA as a cover up to the crimes against amhara farmers in oromia as part of his grand agenda to weak amhara to submission and build great oromia at their expense

 

[Abba Sadacha]

Yet we still have our own causes, right, so the questions was why religion matters only when it comes to somali cause but you opted to wander around cuz you have no answer regarding your pure hypocrisy

IF it's different, then what works for Oromo's, won't work for Somali's and vice-versa; nothing to do with hypocrisy. Somali's are all Muslims, why wouldn't they want to unite on the one thing, that could unite them? The one thing that could unite them and make everyone, forget clan affiliations?

 

[Abba Sadacha]

I dont think no except amhara would fall for oromumma lies, abiy is using OLA as a cover up to the crimes against amhara farmers in oromia as part of his grand agenda to weak amhara to submission and build great oromia at their expense

You sound like an Amhara extremist yourself; you're not Somali, are you?
Abiy hates OLA more than anyone, but he's powerless, he's already doing everything the tplf did, which is target the areas where OLA is most active; and he's failing. The more oppressive he gets, the more OLA gains popularity and recruits. Even those who once believed in peaceful protests, are running to join the OLA.
His main supporters are Amhara, the Ethiopian first ones though, not the Amhara nationalists who maybe his competition for power.

 

[Gardy]

IF it's different, then what works for Oromo's, won't work for Somali's and vice-versa; nothing to do with hypocrisy. Somali's are all Muslims, why wouldn't they want to unite on the one thing, that could unite them? The one thing that could unite them and make everyone, forget clan affiliations?

You still keep wandering around, just leave it if you have no answer.

 

[GemState]

You are mischaracterizing the Oromo cause and struggle. Religion is not an issue for us, because Oromo's are targeted as a nation, regardless of the religion of the Oromo.
If it were failed, then Abiy would not be sending in Eritreans, his own forces, etc, to fight it, and he wouldn't be losing land in Oromia to them. Just because you don't see or hear of what they're doing; doesn't mean that they're ''failed.''
That statement, is based on conjecture and your non-informed-opinion as well, ''OLF doesn't have majority sympathy in oromia,'' what is that based on? have you done the research? no.
if OLF weren't more popular, first of all, the party of abiy-opdo/pp oromo wing, wouldn't even exist! secondly, it wouldn't have targeted the olf leadership to ensure they don't compete in the recent elections fair and square.

The only time Oromos will have the asabiyah to take on the Habesha is when it becomes a religious war. Too many of them are comfortable calling themselves Habesha and bent the knee to them during Gobana's conquest with Menelik, Western Oromo especially. The ethnic identity is too flimsy

 

[Gardy]

You sound like an Amhara extremist yourself; you're not Somali, are you?
Abiy hates OLA more than anyone, but he's powerless, he's already doing everything the tplf did, which is target the areas where OLA is most active; and he's failing. The more oppressive he gets, the more OLA gains popularity and recruits. Even those who once believed in peaceful protests, are running to join the OLA.
His main supporters are Amhara, the Ethiopian first ones though, not the Amhara nationalists who maybe his competition for power.

Warya sadacha, what is your take on abiys self nomination and sidelining of amhara, I think he has replaced demeke mokenon with aden farah

 

[Abba Sadacha]

You still keep wandering around, just leave it if you have no answer.

Nope. Just being honest. If Eritreans can do it, despite being more diverse religiously and ethnic wise than Oromo's and others, then we Oromo's can do it, and will do it.

 

[Abba Sadacha]

The only time Oromos will have the asabiyah to take on the Habesha is when it becomes a religious war. Too many of them are comfortable calling themselves Habesha and bent the knee to them during Gobana's conquest with Menelik, Western Oromo especially. The ethnic identity is too flimsy

Conflating the past with today isn't always accurate or correct. gobana himself was an oromo and had oromo warriors, of course, not to mention one side had 100,000 rifles, the other side had sticks, bows and arrows, and horses-submitting was the only choice!
That isn't an issue today though. Very few Oromo's call themselves 'habesha', but yes, Ethiopian, because we have not yet got the point where a majority sees independence as realistic or a need. But, a federal Oromia ruled by Oromo's is agreed upon by us all and that's what matters.