Why doesn't Puntland use the Osmanya script?

[convincation]

Kaddare for Somaliland

Osmanya for Puntland.

We are going to imitate the Balkans, same language written in different scripts.

Why should only Somaliland use the kaddare script when it was made by an abgaal man in banadir? It should be the National script considering the fact that Mogadishu is the capital of the Somali ethnic group

 

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

Its a copy paste of western race concepts.

Firstly Qabiil is a Sunnah and core of our culture, Qabyalad is a cancer. Nothing done in this thread was qabiilist.

Secondly even if you dont believe its viable to be taught it becoming an official language is not in any way a large cost.

You dont even seem to be against the script just that people from the same qabiil support the script.

I don't see who you are debating, but I agree with you in that there is no qabyaalad in this thread.

This is a fun thread about a hypothetical dream scenario for the future of Puntland and how native scripts tie in with preserving our culture as much as possible.

Some people on this forum like to suck the fun out of every topic.

 

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

Why should only Somaliland use the kaddare script when it was made by an abgaal man in banadir? It should be the National script considering the fact that Mogadishu is the capital of the Somali ethnic group

Kadarre script is far younger than Osmanya script first of all, secondly, you should use Kadarre for your own regions as Mogadishu hasn't been the capital of the Somali ethnic group since 1991, when it turned into a one-clan stronghold. But then again, you were born in 2004 or 2005, so perhaps you are not aware of this.

 

[Apollo]

Why should only Somaliland use the kaddare script when it was made by an abgaal man in banadir? It should be the National script considering the fact that Mogadishu is the capital of the Somali ethnic group

Sorry for the racist assumption. I automatically assumed Kaddare came from Woqooyi Galbeed as they are the second most cultured Somalis after Easterners.

 

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

Sorry for the racist assumption. I automatically assumed Kaddare came from Woqooyi Galbeed as they are the second most cultured Somalis after Easterners.

I also thought it was a Borama script.

I checked online and Kadarre was made in 1952, more than 30 years after Osmanya was created.

 

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

All Somali regions should preserve their creations, whether its food, art, scripts, clothing as much as possible. That would make Somali far more interesting and rich, than looking like a lost and found country made of Asian and Western creations and clothing.

 

[Periplus]

@Shimbiris

A penny for your thoughts.

 

[Apollo]

Borama script in Somaliland
Osmanya script in Puntland
Kadarre script in South-Central
Wadaad script in Jubaland

LMAO, that would be epic.

 

[BobSmoke]

It's irrelevant and impractical. If our literacy rate is mad low on the easiest scripts possible, how the f would you expect any better results. At least the Latin script helps the somali to read other languages easier. But those bird scripts are useless to us in every shape or form

 

[Apollo]

It's irrelevant and impractical. If our literacy rate is mad low on the easiest scripts possible, how the f would you expect any better results. At least the Latin script helps the somali to read other languages easier. But those bird scripts are useless to us in every shape or form

Osmanya script is not hard. Anybody able to learn the Roman script will be able to learn Osmanya.

The double vowels in Romanized Somali is mad ugly. At least Osmanya has symbols for double vowels.

 

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

It's irrelevant and impractical. If our literacy rate is mad low on the easiest scripts possible, how the f would you expect any better results. At least the Latin script helps the somali to read other languages easier. But those bird scripts are useless to us in every shape or form

It's useless to you, but for many Puntites, it's part of our heritage, our Sultanate and Kingdom used the script, our parents and grandparents wrote using the script.

I would keep the Latin script also, because it's useful for global communication.

 

[Shimbiris]

@Shimbiris

A penny for your thoughts.

As a Maryoole businessman I would nuke this on the spot. Arabic script at best since most Somalis, as Muslimiin who went to dugsi growing up, can at least learn to read that easily. But some utterly distinct new script that will isolate us from other geeljires in terms of literacy and hamper business and political relations? No. Just no.

 

[Apollo]

As a Maryoole businessman I would nuke this on the spot. Arabic script at best since most Somalis, as Muslimiin who went to dugsi can at least learn to read that easily, but some utterly distinct new script that will isolate us from other geeljires in terms of literacy and hamper business and political relations? No. Just no.

 

[Shimbiris]

You spitting on me, niyahow? Bas, bas... I will see you at your local parking lot.

 

[Apollo]

@Shimbiris

s Mryl bsinssmn I wld nke ths n th spt. rbc scrpt t bst snc mst Smls, s Mslmn wh wnt t dgsi cn t lst lrn t rd tht sly, bt sm ttrl dstnct nw scrpt tht wll islt s frm thr gljrs n trms f ltrc nd hmpr bsnss nd pltcl rltns? N. Jst n.

^ ^ The inefficient Arabic script for you.

 

[convincation]

Kadarre script is far younger than Osmanya script first of all, secondly, you should use Kadarre for your own regions as Mogadishu hasn't been the capital of the Somali ethnic group since 1991, when it turned into a one-clan stronghold. But then again, you were born in 2004 or 2005, so perhaps you are not aware of this.

Mogadishu is and always will be your capital and the capital of the Somali ethnic group whether you like it or not. Osmanya Is latin influenced which defeats the whole purpose of changing scripts. Osmanya was also made by an uneducated book writer from the 1920s wheras the kaddare script was crafted by a collection of university educated men including Hussein sheik Mohamed kaddare, a Somali linguist whom extensively researched into traditional Somali traditions and folklore. You tell me which is more suitable as a National script eedo

 

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

The SYL (Somali Youth League) had three schools of thought;

One faction wanted Osmanya Script and thus the Osmanya script was used for internal administration of the party. Osmanya is also called 'Far Soomaali'.
A second faction of the SYL party wanted the Arabic script because they were pro-Egyptian. The third faction wanted a Latin Script.

The Pro-Egyptian Young
Somalis obviously proposed to
adopt the Arabic alphabet for
writing the Somali language,
while another SYL faction
supported the alternative use of Osmania.
After having been used mainly for private
correspondences in the post-Second World War
period, Osmania became in actuality the script
of the rst Somali nationalists who ennobled
its inventor as a proto-national hero.11 The SYL
charter included mention of the promotion of
Osmania, and indeed, the party adopted it in its
internal administration, even if, ambiguously
enough, many records were still written in
Arabic.12 The copy of the SYL chapter that was
found in Harar is one such example.13 According to
its denigrators, Osmania was nothing more than a
dialect of Daarood;
in other words, the parlance of
the Daarood clan to which Yusuf Osman Kenadid
belonged.14 Osmania actually originates with the
Mudugh regional dialect that was regarded by
Italian linguists during the Trusteeship period as
the most valuable and literarily structured among
the Somali dialects.15 The Osmania probably
expressed the uniqueness of the Somali nation in
opposition to the Arabic script and above all to the
Latin script, which was viewed by its supporters
as an important vehicle of apprenticeship from
Europe and by its detractors as a ‘foreign’ language
connected to Christian colonialism.

Beginning in the mid-1950s, a further faction
inside the SYL rose rapidly with a plan to promote
the adoption of the Latin alphabet in order to
write the Somali language. That faction attracted
the Young Somali intellectuals who represented
the elite of the party, coming mostly from the
urban milieu of Mogadishu and with an education
that combined Islam with nationalism and
socialism. For that westernized group, the Latin
script represented a better way to embrace Somali
culture with European knowledge and technique
in order to end the isolation of the country. If the
faction supporting the adoption
of the Arabic alphabet was
backed by Nasser’s Egypt, the
supporters of the Latin script
very easily held the favour of
the Italian authorities

 

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

Mogadishu is and always will be your capital and the capital of the Somali ethnic group whether you like it or not. Osmanya Is latin influenced which defeats the whole purpose of changing scripts. Osmanya was also made by an uneducated book writer from the 1920s wheras the kaddare script was crafted by a collection of university educated men including Hussein sheik Mohamed kaddare, a Somali linguist whom extensively researched into traditional Somali traditions and folklore. You tell me which is more suitable as a National script eedo

As usual, you like to insult notable people of Puntite roots and due to that childish, asinine comment of yours, I won't bother responding to the rest. Go do your homework.

 

[Apollo]

Osmanya Is latin influenced which defeats the whole purpose of changing scripts.

It was made up from scratch, it has no influence from other scripts. The similarities to other scripts are just due to random luck, not plagiarism.

 

[Sol]

Why not the kaddare script? it looks more beautiful and unique

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Oh f*ck me that looks good especially the last one like something out of a fantasy novel that elves and shit would use