why do somalis look down in single moms?

[TekNiKo]

So why is the single mother to blame? Just because you divorced the mother, why divorce the kids? In London, most of the older generation have never stopped their ex husbands from seeing the kids. They have never utilised the courts. These women have trouble filling out forms in English without the help of their children and you want to act as though the odeys were stopped from seeing their kids??? Yes the younger generation maybe, but not the older.

Many men are quick to marry and divorce, marry and divorce and the endless cycle continues.

This shit is even happening back home and Kenya. There is no western government taking the sides of 'women', yet men are marrying and divorcing leaving women and children behind destitute.

I was shocked when I went Xamar. I have seen so many women under the age of 25 divorced some twice married. Single motherhood is rife there as well. Its ridiculous.

When this issue is also plaguing Africa, and society is still very much patriarchal, you have no leg to stand on. Its about time men start being held accountable.

Well if the woman become unbearable why should a man stay? Let me ask you why previous generations of Somali marriages had very low divorce rates? Women have become unruly and disrespectful to their husbands due to feminism, there is a rising divorce rate throughout the world not just in Somalis. Many men are opting out and staying single and I dont blame them, women have become too much of a hassle these days and are becoming less and less obedient

 

[Luciddreamer]

Drugs. Atheism. ography. Apostasy. Dating. Liberalism.

Music to my ears, except the atheism part.

 

[Halimo-2018]

You can always marry a younger guy you can train and abuse/dominate mentally Halimo. I say continue your education and get some practical degree, like a two year kinda degrees in healthcare and save money as you raise your kid. Marriage is for convenience and life is not all about having a partner. Things happen in life. Don't judge yourself based on what you don't have but what you have accomplished.

Also, stay fit. It is healthy to burn that sugar. With awesome healthy looks, you can trap thirsty faraxs. Easy.

Lol i've never looked at marriage as an achievement i always did me first because marriage or not i will always have me in the end. I dont even want young faraxs. Allah created me with more than just a marriage in mind.

 

[Inquisitive_]

Really? I feel like they glorify it. Somali women hate being tied down to a man so even when they are married it’s like they are single mothers with a second income. And then the men like being lazy and praise the girls doing every thing by themselves. I don’t even remember the last time a seen a household where the dad wasn’t (in the words inquisitive) a “toothless ceremonial figure” lol

But the single mom group is a good idea. It’ll give the more isolated single mothers a chance to network, find baby sitters, daycares etc

My whole thesis is that our female's in the diaspora force these Fathers into those toothless ceremonial position.

There are really two types of fathers, the first one is the macho thick idiot who will try to enforce his authority in the house, these ones end up being divorced in huge numbers (hence why you don't see them)

Then you have the calculative strategic long-term thinking fathers (few) who realise the reality of the situation, they accept this subservient toothless role because they truly care about their children.

They endure this humiliation with patience and perseverance until their children reach proper maturity, before they move back to Somalia to marry again in peace and dignity.

The latter is now becoming the talk of the community as well as being the main topic in those Xaalimo only phone group chats, but of course as always they portray themselves as the victims in all of this.

When you feel entitled, introspection and deep reflection goes out of the window and as a result you will never learn nor reach far in life, the whole concept of taking responsibility for your actions is alien to them

Let's do a case study with a community that has similar female's like us with the same hot temperament and in many cases are even worse on average.

This is the Algerian community, so what stops these female's from going crazy like our Xaalimo's have in the diaspora?

How do these Fathers still run their households in a society and land that has completely stripped from all power?


1. Robust community cohesion.

Something we of course lack, the complete and utter alienation from your community serves as bulk-ward to the type of shameless shenanigans that are rife in our community, were you see our crazed Xaalimo's not only coming out against her Husband but also their Mothers, Father's and Brothers.

These communities have such robust cohesion that the family determines who the son/daughter marries and both have tremendous respect as well as fear towards this institution, no son or daughter would dare to come against it.

To the contrary our Xaalimo's look down on this type of thing, instead they fend for themselves on the streets and the more religious ones sign up to Salafi mosques without the input of their Mothers, Father or Brothers.

Forget about community cohesion, there isn't even a blood family cohesion with us.


2. Threat of gruesome death and violence.

This is the one thing that the Algerian's, the Arab's and Pakistani's have in common which the Farax's lack because we don't have this culture, in fact we grant our females the types of freedoms that no other Muslim community gives.

What did we get in return? mass divorce that boggles the mind, and those that survived are toothless, destitute humiliated ceremonial figures that have zero authority in the house.

Regardless what your opinions are, you cannot deny that the threat of death serves as a bulwark against many of the types of shameless shenanigans that have become common with our Xaalimo's.

A case in point is the common shameless stunt carried out by our Xaalimo's whenever she has a serious dispute with her husbands by putting all of his belongings in a black bin bag that is placed outside the front-door to greet him on arrival.

The hot temperament Algerian female knows that if she ever pulled such a stunt, her lifeless disembowelled corps will end up in those same bin bags she put out that evening.



3. Looking down on divorced females

This is another element all the other communities share except us, in fact it's normal for our females to marry several times, you will regularly find a single mum on her 3th, 4th and even 5th marriage.

When divorce is no longer a big deal, it turns into a joke destroying your entire community in the process.

The rest of the Muslim communities make divorce into such a big deal and attach so much stigma to it, that everyone takes it incredibly serious because there is a big chance you will never marry again.

Even the Christian community does this.

 

[Somalihustler]

Somali do look down on single moms with ajnabi kids.

Loool no lies told

 

[IBRAHIM.]

Lol i've never looked at marriage as an achievement i always did me first because marriage or not i will always have me in the end. I dont even want young faraxs. Allah created me with more than just a marriage in mind.

Lol. Weren’t u married to someone and u said U wanted to divorce him. If I remember correctly that is.

 

[Samaalic Era]

My whole thesis is that our female's in the diaspora force these Fathers into those toothless ceremonial position.

There are really two types of fathers, the first one is the macho thick idiot who will try to enforce his authority in the house, these ones end up being divorced in huge numbers (hence why you don't see them)

Then you have the calculative strategic long-term thinking fathers (few) who realise the reality of the situation, they accept this subservient toothless role because they truly care about their children.

They endure this humiliation with patience and perseverance until their children reach proper maturity, before they move back to Somalia to marry again in peace and dignity.

The latter is now becoming the talk of the community as well as being the main topic in those Xaalimo only phone group chats but of course as always they portray themselves as the victims in all of this.

When you feel entitled, introspection and deep reflection goes out of the window and as a result you will never learn nor reach far in life, the whole concept of taking responsibility for your actions is alien to them

Let's do a case study with a community that has similar female's like us with the same hot temperament and in many cases are even worse on average.

This is the Algerian community, so what stops these female's from going crazy like our Xaalimo's have in the diaspora?

How do these Fathers still run their households in a society and land that has completely stripped from all power?


1. Robust community cohesion.

Something we of course lack, the complete and utter alienation from your community serves as bulk-ward to the type of shameless shenanigans that are rife in our community, were you see our crazed Xaalimo's not only coming out against her Husband but also their Mothers, Father's and Brothers.

These communities have such robust cohesion that the family determines who the son/daughter marries and both have tremendous respect as well as fear towards this institution, no son or daughter would dare to come against it.

To the contrary our Xaalimo's look down on this type of thing, instead they fend for themselves on the streets and the more religious ones sign up to Salafi mosques without the input of their Mothers, Father or Brothers.

Forget about community cohesion, there isn't even a blood family cohesion with us.


2. Threat of gruesome death and violence.

This is the one thing that the Algerian's, the Arab's and Pakistani's have in common which the Farax's lack because we don't have this culture, in fact we grant our females the types of freedoms that no other Muslim community gives.

What did we get in return? mass divorce that boggles the mind, and those that survived are toothless, destitute humiliated ceremonial figures that have zero authority in the house.

Regardless what your opinions are, you cannot deny that the threat of death serves as a bulwark against many of the types of shameless shenanigans that have become common with our Xaalimo's.

A case in point is the common shameless stunt carried out by our Xaalimo's whenever she has a serious dispute with her husbands by putting all of his belongings in a black bin bag that is put outside to greet him upon arrival.

The hot temperament Algerian female knows that if she ever pulled such a stunt, her lifeless disembowelled corps will end up in those same bin bags she put out that evening.



3. Looking down on divorced females

This is another element all the other communities share except us, in fact it's normal for our females to marry several times, you will regularly find a single mum on her 3th, 4th and even 5th marriage.

When divorce is no longer a big deal, it turns into a joke destroying your entire community in the process.

The rest of the Muslim communities make divorce into such a big deal, attaching so much stigma to it, that everyone takes it incredibly serious because there is a big chance you will never marry again.

Its true saxiib. There is no respect for ones elders and seniors. There is no law that binds the Somali house. A people without laws are no different than animals. Even Somali bantus in the US have more stable marriages and in Somalia aswell, Madow women are more submissive than the average xalimo which is shocking.

The Prophet pbuh mentioned that Bani Israil's collaspe began with their women.
(Reported by al-Bukhaari, 4706).

He (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) also said: This world is sweet and dazzling, and Allaah has you put in charge of it to see how you will do and what you will do, so beware of this world and beware of women, for the first fitnah (temptation, trial) that befell the Children of Israel was concerning women.

 

[IstarZ]

My whole thesis is that our female's in the diaspora force these Fathers into those toothless ceremonial position.

There are really two types of fathers, the first one is the macho thick idiot who will try to enforce his authority in the house, these ones end up being divorced in huge numbers (hence why you don't see them)

Then you have the calculative strategic long-term thinking fathers (few) who realise the reality of the situation, they accept this subservient toothless role because they truly care about their children.

They endure this humiliation with patience and perseverance until their children reach proper maturity, before they move back to Somalia to marry again in peace and dignity.

The latter is now becoming the talk of the community as well as being the main topic in those Xaalimo only phone group chats but of course as always they portray themselves as the victims in all of this.

When you feel entitled, introspection and deep reflection goes out of the window and as a result you will never learn nor reach far in life, the whole concept of taking responsibility for your actions is alien to them

Let's do a case study with a community that has similar female's like us with the same hot temperament and in many cases are even worse on average.

This is the Algerian community, so what stops these female's from going crazy like our Xaalimo's have in the diaspora?

How do these Fathers still run their households in a society and land that has completely stripped from all power?


1. Robust community cohesion.

Something we of course lack, the complete and utter alienation from your community serves as bulk-ward to the type of shameless shenanigans that are rife in our community, were you see our crazed Xaalimo's not only coming out against her Husband but also their Mothers, Father's and Brothers.

These communities have such robust cohesion that the family determines who the son/daughter marries and both have tremendous respect as well as fear towards this institution, no son or daughter would dare to come against it.

To the contrary our Xaalimo's look down on this type of thing, instead they fend for themselves on the streets and the more religious ones sign up to Salafi mosques without the input of their Mothers, Father or Brothers.

Forget about community cohesion, there isn't even a blood family cohesion with us.


2. Threat of gruesome death and violence.

This is the one thing that the Algerian's, the Arab's and Pakistani's have in common which the Farax's lack because we don't have this culture, in fact we grant our females the types of freedoms that no other Muslim community gives.

What did we get in return? mass divorce that boggles the mind, and those that survived are toothless, destitute humiliated ceremonial figures that have zero authority in the house.

Regardless what your opinions are, you cannot deny that the threat of death serves as a bulwark against many of the types of shameless shenanigans that have become common with our Xaalimo's.

A case in point is the common shameless stunt carried out by our Xaalimo's whenever she has a serious dispute with her husbands by putting all of his belongings in a black bin bag that is put outside to greet him upon arrival.

The hot temperament Algerian female knows that if she ever pulled such a stunt, her lifeless disembowelled corps will end up in those same bin bags she put out that evening.



3. Looking down on divorced females

This is another element all the other communities share except us, in fact it's normal for our females to marry several times, you will regularly find a single mum on her 3th, 4th and even 5th marriage.

When divorce is no longer a big deal, it turns into a joke destroying your entire community in the process.

The rest of the Muslim communities make divorce into such a big deal, attaching so much stigma to it, that everyone takes it incredibly serious because there is a big chance you will never marry again.

Honor killing, social alienation and a culture entrenched in shaming women is your solution?

I don’t know how you type this sh!t with a straight face.

 

[Somalihustler]

Its true saxiib. There is no respect for ones elders and seniors. There is no law that binds the Somali house. A people without laws are no different than animals. Even Somali bantus in the US have more stable marriages and in Somalia aswell, Madow women are more submissive than the average xalimo which is shocking.

The Prophet pbuh mentioned that Bani Israil's collaspe began with their women.
(Reported by al-Bukhaari, 4706).

He (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) also said: This world is sweet and dazzling, and Allaah has you put in charge of it to see how you will do and what you will do, so beware of this world and beware of women, for the first fitnah (temptation, trial) that befell the Children of Israel was concerning women.

Lol probably won't get married to a Somali girl unless she cool and has morals 90% of them don't..but if I did and she got out of place or rude I wouldn't think twice to break her nose lol I ain't your regular farax my friend...got to get tough with these yeen...

 

[Samaalic Era]

Lol probably won't get married to a Somali girl unless she cool and has morals 90% of them don't..but if I did and she got out of place or rude I wouldn't think twice to break her nose lol I ain't your regular farax my friend...got to get tough with these *****yeen...

In the Diaspora, Somali women will never obey the husband and want you to be their atm machine while she calls all the shots. So many brothers who brought their wives to the west suddenly came with a new face. If you want to marry a Somali woman, marry from back home and either move there or to another non western modern country.

 

[Halimo-2018]

Lol. Weren’t u married to someone and u said U wanted to divorce him. If I remember correctly that is.

Thats old news. Yes.

 

[IBRAHIM.]

Thats old news. Yes.

What the f*ck happened?

 

[HalimaJ]

Honor killing, social alienation and a culture entrenched in shaming women is your solution?

I don’t know how you type this sh!t with a straight face.

These men clearly hate women.

I can imagine @Inquisitive_ being the type that will end up abusing women.

 

[HalimaJ]

Well if the woman become unbearable why should a man stay? Let me ask you why previous generations of Somali marriages had very low divorce rates? Women have become unruly and disrespectful to their husbands due to feminism, there is a rising divorce rate throughout the world not just in Somalis. Many men are opting out and staying single and I dont blame them, women have become too much of a hassle these days and are becoming less and less obedient

I can use that same logic to you as well.

If men have become unbearable, why should women stay? Also, you guys always love to bash western Xalimos, so you're telling me that even back home women are 'unbearable' as well?
Also, 'feminism' isn't even a thing back home. Patriarchy is still the order of the day, yet some Somali men can't even be good fathers back home.

Men like you have nothing but hatred for women. The way you post and the degrading language you use about women regularly here tells me that you probably think it is okay for a man to mistreat a woman.

 

[HalimaJ]

In the Diaspora, Somali women will never obey the husband and want you to be their atm machine while she calls all the shots. So many brothers who brought their wives to the west suddenly came with a new face. If you want to marry a Somali woman, marry from back home and either move there or to another non western modern country.

Somali men in the diaspora rely on their wives to pay for half of the bills. Especially in London. All the young couples help each other with the bills. So why lie.

Also, the older generation couldn't even rely on their husbands to provide. The government did that loooooool. Where are some Somali men's sense of masculity. Why should a woman take you seriously if you can't keep up your end of the bargain.

You always talk about women, what they should and shouldn't do, when it fact some of the men are useless creatives.

A lot of you lot are broke. Atm machine where????

 

[TekNiKo]

My whole thesis is that our female's in the diaspora force these Fathers into those toothless ceremonial position.

There are really two types of fathers, the first one is the macho thick idiot who will try to enforce his authority in the house, these ones end up being divorced in huge numbers (hence why you don't see them)

Then you have the calculative strategic long-term thinking fathers (few) who realise the reality of the situation, they accept this subservient toothless role because they truly care about their children.

They endure this humiliation with patience and perseverance until their children reach proper maturity, before they move back to Somalia to marry again in peace and dignity.

The latter is now becoming the talk of the community as well as being the main topic in those Xaalimo only phone group chats, but of course as always they portray themselves as the victims in all of this.

When you feel entitled, introspection and deep reflection goes out of the window and as a result you will never learn nor reach far in life, the whole concept of taking responsibility for your actions is alien to them

Let's do a case study with a community that has similar female's like us with the same hot temperament and in many cases are even worse on average.

This is the Algerian community, so what stops these female's from going crazy like our Xaalimo's have in the diaspora?

How do these Fathers still run their households in a society and land that has completely stripped from all power?


1. Robust community cohesion.

Something we of course lack, the complete and utter alienation from your community serves as bulk-ward to the type of shameless shenanigans that are rife in our community, were you see our crazed Xaalimo's not only coming out against her Husband but also their Mothers, Father's and Brothers.

These communities have such robust cohesion that the family determines who the son/daughter marries and both have tremendous respect as well as fear towards this institution, no son or daughter would dare to come against it.

To the contrary our Xaalimo's look down on this type of thing, instead they fend for themselves on the streets and the more religious ones sign up to Salafi mosques without the input of their Mothers, Father or Brothers.

Forget about community cohesion, there isn't even a blood family cohesion with us.


2. Threat of gruesome death and violence.

This is the one thing that the Algerian's, the Arab's and Pakistani's have in common which the Farax's lack because we don't have this culture, in fact we grant our females the types of freedoms that no other Muslim community gives.

What did we get in return? mass divorce that boggles the mind, and those that survived are toothless, destitute humiliated ceremonial figures that have zero authority in the house.

Regardless what your opinions are, you cannot deny that the threat of death serves as a bulwark against many of the types of shameless shenanigans that have become common with our Xaalimo's.

A case in point is the common shameless stunt carried out by our Xaalimo's whenever she has a serious dispute with her husbands by putting all of his belongings in a black bin bag that is placed outside the front-door to greet him on arrival.

The hot temperament Algerian female knows that if she ever pulled such a stunt, her lifeless disembowelled corps will end up in those same bin bags she put out that evening.



3. Looking down on divorced females

This is another element all the other communities share except us, in fact it's normal for our females to marry several times, you will regularly find a single mum on her 3th, 4th and even 5th marriage.

When divorce is no longer a big deal, it turns into a joke destroying your entire community in the process.

The rest of the Muslim communities make divorce into such a big deal and attach so much stigma to it, that everyone takes it incredibly serious because there is a big chance you will never marry again.

Even the Christian community does this.

Professor Inquisitive delivers again with another stunning, truthful post. Wallahi you should become a public speaker your eloqounce is by far unmatched by anyone here.

Did you know single mothers throw a party for a new member of their club? Divorce has become celebrated amongst our women hence new jargon like "naag nool" and "xusul baruur". Degeneracy is celebrated whilat the faithful loyal wife is berated and called a doormat.

 

[TekNiKo]

I can use that same logic to you as well.

If men have become unbearable, why should women stay? Also, you guys always love to bash western Xalimos, so you're telling me that even back home women are 'unbearable' as well?
Also, 'feminism' isn't even a thing back home. Patriarchy is still the order of the day, yet some Somali men can't even be good fathers back home.

Men like you have nothing but hatred for women. The way you post and the degrading language you use about women regularly here tells me that you probably think it is okay for a man to mistreat a woman.

Women back home are not included, except those whove been brainwashed due to false education and programming due to globalism. I dont even know what your talking about most nuclear families back home are in tact and men have multiple families which work in unison and harmony. Stop inventing made up lies or a few outlier cases.

You claim your married but are absolutely obsessed with defending the indefensible, out of control, out of line women which are destroying families in their wake by presenting "bac madow" to the father of their offspring, opting instead for Council House benefits.

 

[HalimaJ]

Women back home are not included, except those whove been brainwashed due to false education and programming due to globalism. I dont even know what your talking about most nuclear families back home are in tact and men have multiple families which work in unison and harmony. Stop inventing made up lies or a few outlier cases.

You claim your married but are absolutely obsessed with defending the indefensible, out of control, out of line women which are destroying families in their wake by presenting "bac madow" to the father of their offspring, opting instead for Council House benefits.

You claim to be a married man but go out of your way to defend men that can't even look after their families. Weak men who cannot even look after one family or even k

In the majority of those bac madow cases its usually because the man has run off to Africa to marry again. If a woman doesn't want to share that is fine.

However, another case is that the husband was absolutely useless. Spending his days chewing qat and talking about politics in Tim Hortons. Where is their raag nimo? Their sense of masculinity? These women have usually been relying on government assistance well before their divorce due to their husbands laziness.

You cannot expect a woman to fulfil your rights when you cannot even conduct yourself as a husband. Women have haqq as well. If women are supposedly 'immoral', then so are the men.

I defend these women because I've seen a lot of useless men who literally spend their days chatting shit in maqaayads. If you try to deny this, then you're a certified liar.

 

[TekNiKo]

You claim to be a married man but go out of your way to defend men that can't even look after their families. Weak men who cannot even look after one family or even k

In the majority of those bac madow cases its usually because the man has run off to Africa to marry again. If a woman doesn't want to share that is fine.

However, another case is that the husband was absolutely useless. Spending his days chewing qat and talking about politics in Tim Hortons. Where is their raag nimo? Their sense of masculinity? These women have usually been relying on government assistance well before their divorce due to their husbands laziness.

You cannot expect a woman to fulfil your rights when you cannot even conduct yourself as a husband. Women have haqq as well. If women are supposedly 'immoral', then so are the men.

I give up, you are literally just mirroring my responses. Its like I am arguing with a wall. Deuces.

 

[Halimo-2018]

Well if the woman become unbearable why should a man stay? Let me ask you why previous generations of Somali marriages had very low divorce rates? Women have become unruly and disrespectful to their husbands due to feminism, there is a rising divorce rate throughout the world not just in Somalis. Many men are opting out and staying single and I dont blame them, women have become too much of a hassle these days and are becoming less and less obedient

Unruly? Hmm Shes a grown woman not a child. you need to check everything you believe about women. Who the hell raised you? Either you have no woman in your life or they're all pickmeishas putting up wit bs men in their life do. Its time you start treating women like human beings and not some child that needs to kiss up to her man 24/7. You sound like you want to marry a child rather than a woman that challenges you cus your too weak and afraid. Ridiculous.