What will happen if somaliland reunites with somalia?

[nine]

Please debate with a level of constructive criticism here, your post has nothing to do with the thread discussion, and remember it is ramdan billaahi calayk.

in all seriousness, how will you convince extreme secessionists from their quest and rather stay with somalia? no clan bashing or blaming anyone.

They're citizens of Somalia whether they like it or not. The sooner they get used to it the better.

 

[Karim]

Please debate with a level of constructive criticism here, your post has nothing to do with the thread discussion, and remember it is ramdan billaahi calayk.

in all seriousness, how will you convince extreme secessionists from their quest and rather stay with somalia? no clan bashing or blaming anyone.

Madam, convincing them is unnecessary. Recognizing SSC as a Federal state will solve this issue swiftly.

 

[Von]

preach brother.!! we need each other.

Somalia is currently where Germany was 200 years ago, divided, weak and easy to steamroll. Somali geography/culture encourages division so we need to artificially unite it. We need to kick-start reunification with a single customs union like the German Zollverein, highways that run through Djibouti to Kismayo to link their respective markets. These two ideas would build trust between all parties and linking the economies of every region while putting key issues like SSC and political power to the side for a bit

 

[Silky]

Yo @Karim did ya mum leave your family for an isaaq man
it's ok buddy, all this calaacal and tearing your hair out over Isaaq supremacy is embarrassing it really need not cause this much anguish.

Yaa sspot amatuer shrinks and commentators come in, what do you think is the source of this little dofaar's cuqdad: insecurity, traumatic familial history, little man syndrome.

 

[nine]

Yo @Karim did ya mum leave your family for an isaaq man
it's ok buddy, all this calaacal and tearing your hair out over Isaaq supremacy is embarrassing it really need not cause this much anguish.

Yaa sspot amatuer shrinks and commentators come in, what do you think is the source of this little dofaar's cuqdad: insecurity, traumatic familial history, little man syndrome.

What Isaaq supremacy?
Is there Isaaq supremacy when you guys go to Garowe for Passports?

 

[Karim]

Yo @Karim did ya mum leave your family for an isaaq man
it's ok buddy, all this calaacal and tearing your hair out over Isaaq supremacy is embarrassing it really need not cause this much anguish.

Yaa sspot amatuer shrinks and commentators come in, what do you think is the source of this little dofaar's cuqdad: insecurity, traumatic familial history, little man syndrome.

Did I hurt your feelings Jeegaan boy?!! You'll stay in the union for all eternity... We'll pursue our ambitions of wiping you out as long as it takes. 1988 was the first season of the show.. i'm excitedly waiting for the next season to come. Season 2 should be a lot scarier than the first one (1988) I expect 1M+ casualties and total destruction of enemy territory.

 

[BankaTuyo]

Yo @Karim did ya mum leave your family for an isaaq man
it's ok buddy, all this calaacal and tearing your hair out over Isaaq supremacy is embarrassing it really need not cause this much anguish.

Yaa sspot amatuer shrinks and commentators come in, what do you think is the source of this little dofaar's cuqdad: insecurity, traumatic familial history, little man syndrome.

What could you possibly gain from insulting someone's mom or tribe. daahir yaa shamis waar dadkan xagee laga haystaa.

why can't you respond to each other in an intelligent way? midi midi ku taag is never an answer.

 

[BankaTuyo]

Pursuing this discussion to a fruitful conclusion is futile.

 

[Silky]

"Waah waaah Isaaq this, waah waaah Isaaq that" you'd think we f'd your bih with all this calaacal. Listen up, we destroyed your MOD regime when it was one of the biggest forces on the continent, along with your mercenaries, you couldn't f*ck wiv us then y'all can't do shit today, kulaha 'wiping you out'

We're all aware of your ignobility and inglourious orgins and reality so what's to say really. If you want civility act like a big boy and not like you're on your period.

Also you don't have to be jeegan to realise your a dumb f*

 

[Karim]

"Waah waaah Isaaq this, waah waaah Isaaq that" you'd think we f'd your bih with all this calaacal. Listen up, we destroyed your MOD regime when it was one of the biggest forces on the continent, along with your mercenaries, you couldn't f*ck wiv us then y'all can't do shit today, kulaha 'wiping you out'

We're all aware of your ignobility and inglourious orgins and reality so what's to say really. If you want civility act like a big boy and not like you're on your period.

Also you don't have to be jeegan to realise your a dumb f*

Butchering Jeegaans is what we do mofo.
Sayidka fucked you up real bad.
Siyaad Barre mercilessly liquidated 100k of you es and bombed your towns to the ground.
Abdi Iley slaughters your people and burns your towns every now and then...
It's habit that we can't get rid off.
Don't catch feelings

 

[Mr observer]

I suggest we become a republican state like France or USA. Each state has their own rules and regulations. The only things that should be shared are the economy, military and sports.

 

[Mr observer]

Did I hurt your feelings Jeegaan boy?!! You'll stay in the union for all eternity... We'll pursue our ambitions of wiping you out as long as it takes. 1988 was the first season of the show.. i'm excitedly waiting for the next season to come. Season 2 should be a lot scarier than the first one (1988) I expect 1M+ casualties and total destruction of enemy territory.

That is one of the reasons why Somalia will never ever be successful. Calling genocide upon your fellow Somalis is never helpful.

 

[Silky]

I suggest we become a republican state like France or USA. Each state has their own rules and regulations. The only things that should be shared are the economy, military and sports.

As opposed to the monarchy we have now.

His Majesty, Farmaajo, 1st of his Name, Lover of Cheese, would never let that happen, he rules with an iron fist

 

[SomaliWadaniSoldier]

Did we convince u, O @Lordilord. Or is ur love for Porcupine state Jeegania greater than unity?

 

[BirtaanJabin]

Somali kala fooganmayse hays canaantaane

 

[Lordilord]

Did we convince u, O @Lordilord. Or is ur love for Porcupine state Jeegania greater than unity?

Some brothers on here actually trying but with you it was just straight up disrespeccc with three c's.

I just wanted to understand why it is so important for some that Somaliland reunites.

I do understand better now but for me to be convinced there would have to be big changes and I don't see them coming soon. Until then peace and prosperity

 

[nine]

Some brothers on here actually trying but with you it was just straight up disrespeccc with three c's.

I just wanted to understand why it is so important for some that Somaliland reunites.

I do understand better now but for me to be convinced there would have to be big changes and I don't see them coming soon. Until then peace and prosperity

Lol there ain't no reuniting you guys are still stuck with us

 

[.279]

I want to see somaliland isaac tribal enclave secede from somalia.

I as a harti man who lives from cerigaabo to caluula

From buhoodle togdheer to garcad mudug

I don't share anything with isaac, infact isaac are the enemies of harti i pray the enmity between harti and isaac becomes deeper, the jihad against isaac crusaders teying to implement british christian borders on harti muslims will be exterminated swiftly and remorselessly waa billahi towfiq.

In sha Allah isaac will be killed on harti land in sha Allah many isaac gaalo will be killed invading harti land.

May Allah bless the harti mujahid fighting the gaalo isaac and their church in hargaysa

This niggas a lunatic. La xowla

 

[nine]

I want to see somaliland isaac tribal enclave secede from somalia.

I as a harti man who lives from cerigaabo to caluula

From buhoodle togdheer to garcad mudug

I don't share anything with isaac, infact isaac are the enemies of harti i pray the enmity between harti and isaac becomes deeper, the jihad against isaac crusaders teying to implement british christian borders on harti muslims will be exterminated swiftly and remorselessly waa billahi towfiq.

 

[Futurist]

i do not really understand the unilateral secession of somaliland from the union, infighting between somali clans has been happening for a long time, and it will happen in the future also, so the argument of [Waa nala laayay] of the most extreme secessionists doesn't hold water. at least in my opinion. the issue of succession is far more deep than they admit.

That may or may not be the case. But Afweyne's former dictatorial regime of Somalia committed crimes against humanity in Somaliland regions and beyond. Obfuscate, conflate and complicate as you like. It is a fact of history that is undeniable.

on the other hand you have the blind unionists who claim somaliland belongs to somalia, and it should be forced to remain so, even if the majority of the people of somaliland [Beesha dhexe] and a number of the other clans are for seceding from the rest of somalia. they turn a blind eye to examine the real issue or the cause of succession.

The real cause is called Right to Self Determination. It is unalienable. Inviolable. Undeniable. I as an individual have right to self determination. A group of people have right to self determination. The people of Somaliland have a right to choose to venture out on their own. You do not have a right to force them into sharing a government with you. That is nothing short of arrogance.

as for your question, [in my opinion] the extreme [midnimadu waa muqadas camp], think if somaliland secedes from the union of 1960 it will lead to a run away chain reaction culminating in the balkanization of former somalia.

The unioninsts can't have it both ways. Either they are unionists because they love Somalia and will never leave it. Or they don't. If they do, why would they secede from Somalia in a chain reaction? Doesn't that go against their unionist position?

i personally would love to see a re-union based on the 1960 borders, in the form of confederation with an ideal power sharing of 60%-40% (president from the south and prime minister from the north or vice versa). but what can you expect from people who could not respect ramadan and laylatul qadr. God help us all.

Do you take us Somalilanders for fools? It takes 51% to have absolute overall control, in terms of voting power. Therefore why would we give you 60% control. We have nothing to gain from Somalia and everything, and I mean everything, to lose.