Somaliland & DDS Common Destiny

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Livestock is a valuable product overseas. It's 1k a pop. I don't mind they do this industry rurally. But not farming, the whole of africa is sending the same product and therefore oversaturating it which means 'prices' drop ma garatay? that's why agricultural goods are so cheap in shops, but the time/effort you spend as a farmer on it is not positive. That's why farmer populations are so poor, they spend their time producing something that is literally worthless locally and globally. Camel costs 1k due to our gulf trade. This is a high end product. All I want is our economy producing nothing less then what our rural ppl produce which is 1k final product. If you can't do that, I WANNA KILL U cuz your rural ppl are more worthy to the world then your cities which shoud never be the case. U need to out beat your rural areas in economic calculation not under perform. @Samaalism nigga doesnt know its simply about what your product worth. Not what u do in the market place.

Meat is a good product to work on. Since meat is expensive. Just stay away from that 'mango and tomato and basal shit' we must teach our ppl, waqtikooda waxay gelinayan wax aan qiimo wayn aduunka ku lahayn xitaa qiimo wayn kuma laha wadan, iyaguna wax wayn uma soo kordhayo, thats why eelays are usually so poor, nigga wasting time on worthless product.
If you want to base your economy on livestock you need to have a sound environmental policy. The entire north has become desertified to the point that the last drought cost 80% of its livestock. I agree that it is an extremely valuable product but Somalis have not found a common ground on regulation of livestock.
 

DR OSMAN

AF NAAREED
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If you want to base your economy on livestock you need to have a sound environmental policy. The entire north has become desertified to the point that the last drought cost 80% of its livestock. I agree that it is an extremely valuable product but Somalis have not found a common ground on regulation of livestock.

Cows/Camels/Sheeps are fine products to deal in. Cows u gonna have huge competition since it's not 'unique' product to your country, you will compete against the world who all did 'cow rearing' in the past and in the present. People still want 'meat' ma garatay, there is market for it. Plus meat is the most expensive form of 'agriculture' not the 'green vegetables' lol.

Sheeps/Goats are not that lucrative but it beats 'vegetables' since it's a meat but t he level of competition is tough since most of the world rear sheep/goats. It's not unique product like 'camel' there is literally nowhere else they can go for it who have the same level of production of camels like Somalia. We got that 'shit on lock' it's purely our industry and we can up prices and not worry about someone else saying I can sell it cheaper. But what makes me sad is not the livestock guys, their performing well in comparison to other rural communities.

It's our urban areas that are lacking any sophisticated product, when it's supposed to be your cities who produce the largest share of your GDP not your RURAL. 60% is what they say the rural economy is worth in Somalia. The other is 'importing' and 'trade' it's not EXPORTING. Their basically bringing in consumable items to the cities and just doing 'trade' ufffffffffff like some petty as 'soweto' nigga.

They don't understand 'trade' is only beneficial if your servicing large economy, there is no point ttrading with 'soweto' south africa, what are u going to benefit from? sending them items that are worth 1 dollar, what sort of tax can u collect from such small item? that is why Somalia is so poor, their ports and trade lifeline is going towards 'undeveloped' market place. U need banks to develop your market place and loaning culture so start up happen. You tell your ppl start opening businesses, filling new services, they start employing, over time your market place gets sophisicated.
 

Ras

It's all so tiresome
VIP
Ethiopia is very monolithic, the economy is fully controlled by the government and individuals with ties to the ERDF. The power is already in favor of Ethiopia since Somaliland spends 1/3 of its GDP purchasing khat from them.

Kenya is an entirely different ball game cause their economy is free, Ethiopia's not. It's extremely hard for a Somali individual to invest in Ethiopia proper, they prefer large corporations or countries.

It's like you guys are playing a board game. Ethiopia is milestones ahead of you in society, culture, economy and politics. This is not some power move by Somaliland it's a desperate attempt to achieve independence.


All the more reason we should put more effort into it.

There aren't 100% monolithic plenty of cracks if you look hard enough.

Some generals and smaller factions wouldn't refuse a good deal if it's on offer.

We get them with the small things first like cheaper fmcg products and slowly push the more expensive foreign alternative imports out the market.

The more they invest into our ports the more competitive it would be to do business there.

It's one sided today but there's always tomorrow.
 
He's right in that the ideas economy is worth a lot more but he somehow thinks that you can go from selling livestock to licensing out thousands of patents within a week.

We need to go after the lowest hanging fruits before we start running.

Inshallah we'll get there but it takes money and time...
Ok I’m ganna try and summarise. He made a good point that Ethiopia isn’t a developed economy and exporting for them although it will increase the budget of Somaliland it wouldn’t be an astronomical gain no more than a billion or so dollars to the yearly budget. Ethiopia mostly exports super foods like coffee and sesame seeds and that type of thing. However they’ve recently signed a deal with Hyundai and are ganna start producing cars. They’ve got such a large population that they will move large volumes and they’re diversifying and growing a 10% a year so there will be a huge difference 5 and 10 years from now. So many business will be opened around the traffic that will be created it will be an overall boost to the economy. It will also deepen the Ethiopian realiance on SL which is a geopolitical tool. But it’s not the be all and end all of Somaliland.

Somaliland has just found a oil field north west of the city of caynaba with a low estimate of 2 billion barrels and a high estimate of 12 billion barrels of oil. Production will start in 2020 and that will give the catalyst for building top class infrastructure health care and education and security which is the building blocks for a business friendly environment. Multi national companies will come flocking in. The petro chemical industry will take off. Already 400 students have been sent to China to study to work for the new billion dollar oil refinery in SL. A university is under construction. So many industries will grow of the back of this.

As you know somalilanders are the most advanced somalis. A somalilanders has created the fintech bank worldremit and it has a headquarter in hargeisa. He was awarded the most influential black man in the UK this year. Worldremit handles 10s of billions around the world and has a great capacity for investment banking. The scaffolding is currently under way for largescale medium size business loans. There is currently another fin tech bank that’s will soon be launched by another somalilanders. Somaliland has got over the hump in 10 years it will look like a morayaad.

I missed a hell of all lot of things out and wrote so poorly
 

Ras

It's all so tiresome
VIP
Cows/Camels/Sheeps are fine products to deal in. Cows u gonna have huge competition since it's not 'unique' product to your country, you will compete against the world who all did 'cow rearing' in the past and in the present. People still want 'meat' ma garatay, there is market for it. Plus meat is the most expensive form of 'agriculture' not the 'green vegetables' lol.

Sheeps/Goats are not that lucrative but it beats 'vegetables' since it's a meat but t he level of competition is tough since most of the world rear sheep/goats. It's not unique product like 'camel' there is literally nowhere else they can go for it who have the same level of production of camels like Somalia. We got that 'shit on lock' it's purely our industry and we can up prices and not worry about someone else saying I can sell it cheaper. But what makes me sad is not the livestock guys, their performing well in comparison to other rural communities.

It's our urban areas that are lacking any sophisticated product, when it's supposed to be your cities who produce the largest share of your GDP not your RURAL. 60% is what they say the rural economy is worth in Somalia. The other is 'importing' and 'trade' it's not EXPORTING. Their basically bringing in consumable items to the cities and just doing 'trade' ufffffffffff like some petty as 'soweto' nigga.

They don't understand 'trade' is only beneficial if your servicing large economy, there is no point ttrading with 'soweto' south africa, what are u going to benefit from? sending them items that are worth 1 dollar, what sort of tax can u collect from such small item? that is why Somalia is so poor, their ports and trade lifeline is going towards 'undeveloped' market place. U need banks to develop your market place and loaning culture so start up happen. You tell your ppl start opening businesses, filling new services, they start employing, over time your market place gets sophisicated.

Soweto is probably a bigger market than the whole camel market...

Like you said... Go where you have less competition.

These shitty underdeveloped markets aren't interesting to those bigger countries and they wouldn't be able to viably service them anyways.

Somalis would happily go anywhere and do trades that wouldn't make sense for big companies but would be perfect for small Somali family run businesses.

It's these leftover scraps markets that would allow us to quickly develop our industries untill we can compete on the big stage.

Each of these places is worth billions overall and hundreds of millions to us.

Multiply that by 54 countries in Africa and you got yourself a huge demand.
 

Ras

It's all so tiresome
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Ok I’m ganna try and summarise. He made a good point that Ethiopia isn’t a developed economy and exporting for them although it will increase the budget of Somaliland it wouldn’t be an astronomical gain no more than a billion or so dollars to the yearly budget. Ethiopia mostly exports super foods like coffee and sesame seeds and that type of thing. However they’ve recently signed a deal with Hyundai and are ganna start producing cars. They’ve got such a large population that they will move large volumes and they’re diversifying and growing a 10% a year so there will be a huge difference 5 and 10 years from now. So many business will be opened around the traffic that will be created it will be an overall boost to the economy. It will also deepen the Ethiopian realiance on SL which is a geopolitical tool. But it’s not the be all and end all of Somaliland.

Somaliland has just found a oil field north west of the city of caynaba with a low estimate of 2 billion barrels and a high estimate of 12 billion barrels of oil. Production will start in 2020 and that will give the catalyst for building top class infrastructure health care and education and security which is the building blocks for a business friendly environment. Multi national companies will come flocking in. The petro chemical industry will take off. Already 400 students have been sent to China to study to work for the new billion dollar oil refinery in SL. A university is under construction. So many industries will grow of the back of this.

As you know somalilanders are the most advanced somalis. A somalilanders has created the fintech bank worldremit and it has a headquarter in hargeisa. He was awarded the most influential black man in the UK this year. Worldremit handles 10s of billions around the world and has a great capacity for investment banking. The scaffolding is currently under way for largescale medium size business loans. There is currently another fin tech bank that’s will soon be launched by another somalilanders. Somaliland has got over the hump in 10 years it will look like a morayaad.

I missed a hell of all lot of things out and wrote so poorly

Agree and it's probably his bias swaying his posts.

I think that this is a good move for Somaliland and the whole north overall.

Might seem like disadvantaged deal but it'll open up doors for the future.

We also only had to compete with fellow Somali clans for so long that it blinded us to the outside world.

Directly competing in a larger market like Ethiopia would give is us all a reason to upgrade our mentality.
 

DR OSMAN

AF NAAREED
VIP
Soweto is probably a bigger market than the whole camel market...

Like you said... Go where you have less competition.

These shitty underdeveloped markets aren't interesting to those bigger countries and they wouldn't be able to viably service them anyways.

Somalis would happily go anywhere and do trades that wouldn't make sense for big companies but would be perfect for small Somali family run businesses.

It's these leftover scraps markets that would allow us to quickly develop our industries untill we can compete on the big stage.

Each of these places is worth billions overall and hundreds of millions to us.

Multiply that by 54 countries in Africa and you got yourself a huge demand.

You need a market to begin with. What is better method is filling the gaps of developed markets. They do have sector shortages in the western world, identify which is the most 'promising' and begin establishing your people towards that.

There is literally nothing in Africa, I saw their people,in addis ababa, beyond 2 dollars a day consumption needs, your taxation level even if u 'serviced' the whole continent is 'meagre' you just spent SL time on 30 year path-way to nothingness, why? cause you don't how trade works, it's not about trading it's about the 'consumer wallet size' not the item you have. That is why the same product like 'cigarettes' can be sold for 10 dollars in the west, while 2 dollars in Africa. Trade is determined by the 'poorest' people not by the rich. The rich only 'buy once' their not going to buy the same thing multiple times. Hence it's critical to 'scan' the poorest sector of that society and work out their purchasing power before entertaining any business decision.

If u want to copy the MJ model, they went in and 'captured' the 'infrastructure' not open up 'shops' in Soweto. They control the oil supplies, that is lucrative since the whole economy is dependent on 'oil', his customer base is now the whole nation sectors, not just 'shop front in soweto. India is proof you can skip the manufacturing 'era' as they weren't from rural economy like ourselves straight to knowledge economy. Today their people are earning 100k world wide filling skill shortages across the west, this is hard currency that will return to India and their now referred to as the 'tiger economies'. You need to stop 'copying ' Majerten 1970s policies of Africa,

They were 'emerging' from independence at that time and their was empty sectors to be taken because the people were 'poor farmers' who couldn't own those sectors. Today those nations are still poor and still farmers and the important money making sectors are already taken by MJ/INDIANS. To suggest your going to build your society of 'consumable' trades to poor african economies is sad. Besides you can't secure all of them anyways even if u wanted too due to closer ports available for west africa. Your tryin to suggest PL shud base itself of 'eelay' economy in baydhabo, it's not much different when u look at african economy, it's all rural and small consumable purchases. Those consumable purchases are determined by their wallet size not by the ITEM worth.
 

DR OSMAN

AF NAAREED
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Indians in America make $100,000 on average: Highest-earning ethnic group

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Nothing to do with 'trade or oil' just purely setting up the right knowledge centers and putting their poor people thru it and saying apply for work visas in the west and bring that shit back home in and spend it on indian companies. Their lifting their poor ppl out of poverty and giving them hope, their not worried about their rich class as indians have just as much rich ppl as any other nation as they set up early in british colonial days dominating 'open sectors' in colonial markets.

It's all about your poor people in economies becuz the richer they get the richer the rich gets. It's quite provable capitalist model, empower the poor who begin 'spending' and u automatically empowered the rich who charge more as they own the 'largest' sectors in the industry and gain new customers.

MJ are at the indian level. We dominated early hamar water supplies. We dominated then east african emerging sectors and secured it. We are now going on our new journey, we will adopt the indian model and fill our poor people with knowledge economy and begin exporting them thru work visas to western countries to 'address' shortages in high returning sectors.
 

Ras

It's all so tiresome
VIP
You need a market to begin with. What is better method is filling the gaps of developed markets. They do have sector shortages in the western world, identify which is the most 'promising' and begin establishing your people towards that.

There is literally nothing in Africa, I saw their people,in addis ababa, beyond 2 dollars a day consumption needs, your taxation level even if u 'serviced' the whole continent is 'meagre' you just spent SL time on 30 year path-way to nothingness, why? cause you don't how trade works, it's not about trading it's about the 'consumer wallet size' not the item you have. That is why the same product like 'cigarettes' can be sold for 10 dollars in the west, while 2 dollars in Africa. Trade is determined by the 'poorest' people not by the rich. The rich only 'buy once' their not going to buy the same thing multiple times. Hence it's critical to 'scan' the poorest sector of that society and work out their purchasing power before entertaining any business decision.

If u want to copy the MJ model, they went in and 'captured' the 'infrastructure' not open up 'shops' in Soweto. They control the oil supplies, that is lucrative since the whole economy is dependent on 'oil', his customer base is now the whole nation sectors, not just 'shop front in soweto. India is proof you can skip the manufacturing 'era' as they weren't from rural economy like ourselves straight to knowledge economy. Today their people are earning 100k world wide filling skill shortages across the west, this is hard currency that will return to India and their now referred to as the 'tiger economies'. You need to stop 'copying ' Majerten 1970s policies of Africa,

They were 'emerging' from independence at that time and their was empty sectors to be taken because the people were 'poor farmers' who couldn't own those sectors. Today those nations are still poor and still farmers and the important money making sectors are already taken by MJ/INDIANS. To suggest your going to build your society of 'consumable' trades to poor african economies is sad. Besides you can't secure all of them anyways even if u wanted too due to closer ports available for west africa. Your tryin to suggest PL shud base itself of 'eelay' economy in baydhabo, it's not much different when u look at african economy, it's all rural and small consumable purchases. Those consumable purchases are determined by their wallet size not by the ITEM worth.


No one saying we should ignore the developed markets. Why not service both?

No reason to be against exporting to smaller markets just because there's barely anything there.

For a people that travel hundreds of miles to find small fields of pastures I don't think it would be difficult to thrive in that environment.

We'll find the the tiny opportunities in Africa that only people like us can service while also focusing on the more mature opportunities in the first world.

However if we had billions of dollars coming in from our African businesses then we could be more competitive in the west by out investing our competitors in those "gaps" like you mentioned.
 

DR OSMAN

AF NAAREED
VIP
No one saying we should ignore the developed markets. Why not service both?

No reason to be against exporting to smaller markets just because there's barely anything there.

For a people that travel hundreds of miles to find small fields of pastures I don't think it would be difficult to thrive in that environment.

We'll find the the tiny opportunities in Africa that only people like us can service while also focusing on the more mature opportunities in the first world.

However if we had billions of dollars coming in from our African businesses then we could be more competitive in the west by out investing our competitors in those "gaps" like you mentioned.

You don't understand business model and economic model are vastly difference concepts. Your talking about your nation and where they direct their people. Business model is simply about one person. Learn the difference. If you want to go out and try ghetto market as individual go right ahead, just don't turn that shit into economic direction for your whole people, you just multiplied the supply over a low demand customer, you end up sharing 1 dollar lol per person in that market place and over financial year 12 month calculation this is devastating as your state revenues in taxes become less and less @Samaalism seems to have understood.

I can only speak for PL. I don't want one sector 'focused economy. I want multiple sectors working side by side. All I ask is those sectors are 'worthy' of our time/effort and we can work that out quite quickly by doing estimations of the value of that sector and the time/effort/investment it requires and what the net gain is for our govt as whole. Since economy is linked to government not 'shareholders' you fuckin duli id22r who is always choosing between b22n policy or majerten policy. Yes markasi oo kale 'cay' ayaa iga soo yeerayso either on 'forums' like this or on public tv because niin aan is gaban karin baan ahay markan arko 'jahil' oo umad dhan uu wado khasaaro.

PL model that I envision is like this

Rurally

Fishery
Camel exports
Frankincense
Oil

Urban
Start ups thru business loans and banking sector
Diaspora and Foreign investments into 'manufacturing' sector but only 'high end products' like furnitures, beds, boats, office equipments, lounges, etc.
Knowledge centers to address 'shortages' in developed markets to develop the skills of Majertenis and send these majertenis as overseas skilled migrants to swindle away 'western industries'.
Other service industries injections but this is only possible once the poor people have incomes and this income is only possible thru 'start ups' and start ups are only possible if there is vibrant banking system and loans culture is available.

Government Sector

As the economy develops our public sector will develop as laws will be needed and therefore workforce behind it while ensuring health/schools/sanitation/drainage/roads/electricity and basic infrastructure is available to achieve these economical goals. This will create us a new 'sector' called professional sector which are university students are crying out but isn't possible at this stage. It requires a thriving 'start up' sector before the professional sector can begin as the professional sector is linked to legislations and laws of government and the govt has no need to set up laws when the sector isn't even alive to begin with.

Professional Sector

This will boom because it's going to be connected to the 'laws' and Govt to regulate our market place. Lawyers, Accountants, IT guys, etc will start to find work. Our university students will come out and find local work. While the brightest will head out to western world and find high skilled work. While our rural economy is continuing on the path of high end products like fish, camels, meats, etc not 'vegetables.

I will then sit in Hargeisa and Mogadishu slums and say 'iska warama' thank god PL decided on 'confederation' model so we are not tied to your shitty brain power elites who are learning from siyad barre and b22n marehan economic policies. Your always behind

I will then invite jewish academics to begin the new age of puntland 'patents' and 'inventions' I want this to be key economical vision for next 100 years, we must compete in 'empty' sectors as our product will be 'worth' more like american inventions are constantly worth then anything already existing in the world, that's why they took a 'innovation' route. Good on them, at least their steering their people towards a viable economic approach.

@Samaalism caydu waa qasab niyahow, you don't sit there and direct people to failure by playing political correct and nice on TV, you could be hurting your nation and your people.

@Farm @Gibiin-Udug @Cognitivedissonance @Crow @Abdalla @FBIsomalia and so many other MJS hate me because of my unorthodox approach but why I am unorthodox is I want to 'hear' something new from Somalis, to be 'innovative' at least show something new. Not the age old 'trade corridor' which has been around since the time of adal sultanates. This proves to the world your not inventors if you just rehashing the past.
 

Ras

It's all so tiresome
VIP
You don't understand business model and economic model are vastly difference concepts. Your talking about your nation and where they direct their people. Business model is simply about one person. Learn the difference. If you want to go out and try ghetto market as individual go right ahead, just don't turn that shit into economic direction for your whole people, you just multiplied the supply over a low demand customer, you end up sharing 1 dollar lol per person in that market place and over financial year 12 month calculation this is devastating as your state revenues in taxes become less and less @Samaalism seems to have understood.

I can only speak for PL. I don't want one sector 'focused economy. I want multiple sectors working side by side. All I ask is those sectors are 'worthy' of our time/effort and we can work that out quite quickly by doing estimations of the value of that sector and the time/effort/investment it requires and what the net gain is for our govt as whole. Since economy is linked to government not 'shareholders' you fuckin duli id22r who is always choosing between b22n policy or majerten policy. Yes markasi oo kale 'cay' ayaa iga soo yeerayso either on 'forums' like this or on public tv because niin aan is gaban karin baan ahay markan arko 'jahil' oo umad dhan uu wado khasaaro.

PL model that I envision is like this

Rurally

Fishery
Camel exports
Frankincense
Oil

Urban
Start ups thru business loans and banking sector
Diaspora and Foreign investments into 'manufacturing' sector but only 'high end products' like furnitures, beds, boats, office equipments, lounges, etc.
Knowledge centers to address 'shortages' in developed markets to develop the skills of Majertenis and send these majertenis as overseas skilled migrants to swindle away 'western industries'.

Government Sector

As the economy develops our public sector will develop as laws will be needed and therefore workforce behind it while ensuring health/schools/sanitation/drainage/roads/electricity and basic infrastructure is available to achieve these economical goals. This will create us a new 'sector' called professional sector which are university students are crying out but isn't possible at this stage. It requires a thriving 'start up' sector before the professional sector can begin as the professional sector is linked to legislations and laws of government and the govt has no need to set up laws when the sector isn't even alive to begin with.

Professional Sector

This will boom because it's going to be connected to the 'laws' and Govt to regulate our market place. Lawyers, Accountants, IT guys, etc will start to find work. Our university students will come out and find local work. While the brightest will head out to western world and find high skilled work. While our rural economy is continuing on the path of high end products like fish, camels, meats, etc not 'vegetables.

I will then sit in Hargeisa and Mogadishu slums and say 'iska warama' thank god PL decided on 'confederation' model so we are not tied to your shitty brain power elites who are learning from siyad barre and b22n marehan economic policies. Your always behind

I will then invite jewish academics to begin the new age of puntland 'patents' and 'inventions' I want this to be key economical vision for next 100 years, we must compete in 'empty' sectors as our product will be 'worth' more like american inventions are constantly worth then anything already existing in the world, that's why they took a 'innovation' route. Good on them, at least their steering their people towards a viable economic approach.

@Samaalism caydu waa qasab niyahow, you don't sit there and direct people to failure by playing political correct and nice on TV, you could be hurting your nation and your people.

@Farm @Gibiin-Udug @Cognitivedissonance @Crow @Abdalla @FBIsomalia and so many other MJS hate me because of my unorthodox approach but why I am unorthodox is I want to 'hear' something new from Somalis, to be 'innovative' at least show something new. Not the age old 'trade corridor' which has been around since the time of adal sultanates. This proves to the world your not inventors if you just rehashing the past.


Sxb you're just debating yourself at this point. None of what I said contradicts what you're getting at but you keep repeating yourself....Anyways...

Still waiting on your SoundCloud upload.
 

DR OSMAN

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Sxb you're just debating yourself at this point. None of what I said contradicts what you're getting at but you keep repeating yourself....Anyways...

Still waiting on your SoundCloud upload.

You need to increase your sectors as they provide employments to large number of your people. Sector is made up of industries or companies doing a certain function in your society. What functions are highly dependent on your govt economic direction. U want to demonstrate your lets get rich of ghetto economies. Lets take 100 isaaqs to soweto and u want to work out the returns from servicing a soweto inhabitant who's purchasing power is 2 dollars. U r sharing 2 dollar market place with 100 isaaq, u just said that, you want to send ur ppl to ghetto markets, so dont cry when they return with less taxes. If u add up all sub saharan economies it's not even 100 billion. It's ok if u send your 'top rich isaaqs' there but never make it policy for all isaaqs to go there. It will benefit one or two elite rich types, that's all african economies are for, everyone knows that. Except you cuz of that 63 id33r brain being infected thru oromo contact

Only @Samaalism is showing some promise mentally not you bro, your asking 3 million isaaqs to make their economic goals 100 billion market place in black african countries.
 

DR OSMAN

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@RasCanjero support the confederation model. Keep 63 IQ in one region. 67 IQ South in another region. 80 IQ PL in one region. Lets do an EU model so our economic policies don't have to be shared or centralized. Lets kill b22n for fun @Sheikh as he is stuck being gypsy all over somalia and neglecting gedo like hirabu was a gypsy in awdal kkkkk
 

DR OSMAN

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@RasCanjero

Only promise in Africa is this dude wallahi

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He saw he can't mingle with Africans, he is only talking to western companies and economies as he demonstrated what his economic model is. It's internal focused, cuz there isn't much outside his neighborhood. Wa niin gartay Africanku waa inkaaran yihin, wuuna ka cararay, mana ku mashqulo, u can see his disgust as he goes to A.U as he wants nothing to do with them
 

DR OSMAN

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U will never see Paul Kagame visiting African countries. He isn't interested in the guys as he paved the way for countries sectors and found the partners he need. He wants to be get a slice of the pie in 20 trillion economy, the scrumbs left over is enuff for him to lead africans when he has larger economy then all africans combined. He is fighting for the crumbs in the west, at least those crumbs are worth it. This nigga ras is saying lets fight over the crumbs in ghetto. Caqligu ma sinna dee, I am adamant of that, the brain power of ppl are is radically different.

While our leaders just tour gulf and africa, so sad really. Kagame figured out how to get his ppl ready for fight for crumbs in europe and america and those crumbs when added together will give him larger GDP then all african economies combined. Waa niin qorsho samaystay, guul kagame, guul AFRICAN HERO
 

Ras

It's all so tiresome
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@RasCanjero

Only promise in Africa is this dude wallahi

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He saw he can't mingle with Africans, he is only talking to western companies and economies as he demonstrated what his economic model is. It's internal focused, cuz there isn't much outside his neighborhood. Wa niin gartay Africanku waa inkaaran yihin, wuuna ka cararay, mana ku mashqulo, u can see his disgust as he goes to A.U as he wants nothing to do with them

Yh but not exactly.

He's the West's man in resource extraction of the DRC.

If we had such a big boon to offer up to Europe and Asia we wouldn't be in a civil war but could've been the richest country in Africa.

He's doing a good job for his people that's all I got to say on that topic.
 

Sheikh

Jaalle Ugas ''Comrade Ugas''
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@RasCanjero support the confederation model. Keep 63 IQ in one region. 67 IQ South in another region. 80 IQ PL in one region. Lets do an EU model so our economic policies don't have to be shared or centralized. Lets kill b22n for fun @Sheikh as he is stuck being gypsy all over somalia and neglecting gedo like hirabu was a gypsy in awdal kkkkk

Federalism is here to stay my pet b00n. Stop tagging me your master do you want to get karbashed? Kkk Pirateland has a IQ of 40 don't exaggerate. Let's murk your b00n homies for fun. Your the gypsy runaway slave from Zanzibar my pet your the one stuck in IDPs you silly b00ns all over Somalia. I don't neglect my massive lands. Runaway slave go back to your cage enough of your shenanigans
 

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Your competing against a 'djibouti' who secured Ethiopian market. U need to find a new lifeline beyond trade, not just copy djibouti. This shows me the lack of 'innovation' and 'brainpower' of SL. Your based on COPY.

Besides I seen Ethiopian Market, it's small item 'trades' and construction materials. It's not developed market place because the people can only afford basic items. It's nothing like securing a developed market.


I am already suggesting to PL, to begin going to developed markets and find out 'skill shortages' and 'sectors' that are not filled locally so PL can focus on filling those GAPS for developed nations while making good 'coin' as they have strong purchasing power beyond 'Birr' lol. While Your still stuck 'copying' Djibouti and connecting to one of the poorest nations in the world. But more so then 'external' trade I found if we can increase our people's wallet size, we won't need 'external' trade like the western world who focuses on 'internal' trade since their is more money internally then externally.

I do prefer the internal 'economic' policies, I am studying internal economics how to empower puntites so then we can focus on internal trade model not external trade model. External trade is connected to shaky politics and geopolitical consideration. It's also highly dependent that nation is stable which is unlikely for horn of africa with it's weak institutions, lack of reconcilation, and strong man policies. It's explosive region and unreliable for any nation to tie it's economic gdp to.

By connecting to Ethiopia, your GDP can never out-grow Ethiopia since their both connected.
Berbera was a port city for millennia way before Djibouti was a thing. Stop with this jealousy rant because Ethiopia doesn’t want to go to Bossaso. Money is Money and sorry to break it to you but when I was in Djibouti most of the money ends up in the government so it’s basically a sugarcoated shithole.
 

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The goal of Majerten economics is like bill gates, we want to demonstrate how 1 MJ can be richer then your whole nations GDP. We are adopting the innovation route, it's safer, to focus on 'inventions' not compete in farming lol. PL will then be strong as we are competing in an industry that lacks 3rd worlders loooooooool, once we create the invention, we can 'intellectual property' and begin spreading it around the world and selling it for thousands of dollars per item. Plus we will have the world market at our door step since it's an INVENTION which the whole world will use, a knowledge economy is the route for PL. We must aim for this economically or create partnerships with countries who assisst us in this area only.
Ignorant Majeerteens like you end up getting shot at sea just to increase their GDP in Puntland.
 

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