Homosexuality ? Sheikhs soo gala

[Southerner]

No such thing as gay before the introduction of media and the work of individuals such as Marcus Hirschfeld and Wilhelm Reich, later popularized into the public imagination by media. Look up when the word and behavior was first coined. There has been men who’ve had sex with men or women who’ve had sex with women in the past but as a expression of a more complex conception of sexuality, still reasoning heterosexuality as the norm, and singular attraction to the same gender as an identity is entirely novel. In a majority of ethnographies the concept of same sex attraction is absent altogether (59%) irrespective of religion.

Thinking 1000 people in a town of 20000 can hide being deviant is just a hilariously myopic view of interpersonal relationships btw.

Not sure if you're a believer but Loot's people were destroyed because they were practicing homosexuality. The Romans were also practicing homosexuality.

 

[P4$t0]

Read this walal.
https://misconceptions-about-islam.com/misconception.php?id=37

Interesting perspective, but I have one problem with this. If you can bring this perspective into the this verse then couldn't you say it for whole Quran, thus basically saying the Quran is open to interpretation?

The punnisment is 80 or 100 flogging not death

Where is the daleel for this?

 

[Omar del Sur]

This from that "misconceptions about Islam" website:

"The list of misconceptions

• Death for Apostasy
• Stoning to death allowed (e.g. for adultery)
• Must be "Muslim" or you will go to Hell
• No freedom of religion
• Women confined to houses
• Statues/images forbidden
• Music and singing forbidden
• A man and woman cannot be alone together
• Religion and science/reason/knowledge are not compatible
• Alcohol is forbidden in all forms
• Islam and The Quran promotes a 'clash of civilisations'
• Islam promotes honour killings of women/men
• Allah is the God for Muslims
• Forced marriage is allowed in Islam
• Muslims reject Jesus
• Muhammad was the founder of Islam
• All Muslims are Arabs
• Islam was spread by the sword
• Islam and The Quran promotes fighting, war and terrorism
• Two female witnesses are equivalent to one male witness
• Women receive less than men in issues of inheritance
• Males/Females are required to be circumcised
• Martyrs will receive 72 virgins in paradise
• Woman/Eve created from the rib of Man/adam
• Islam and The Quran promotes suicide bombing
• Muslim men have to grow a beard
• Gold and silver are banned for Muslims
• Islam and The Quran promotes 'jihad' or 'holy war'
• Islam and The Quran promotes slavery
• In Islam homosexuals must be put to death
• Polygamy - Muslim men can have as many wives as they wish
• Adoption is not allowed in Islam
• Dogs are not allowed to be kept by Muslims
• Muslim women must fully cover up in Islam
• A Muslim husband can divorce his wife immediately
• Islam promotes racism
• Islam and The Quran orders hands to be cut off for theft
• All Muslims are the same and hold the same views
• Men are allowed to have concubines or sex slaves
• Prophet Muhammad married a 9 year old girl
• Islam is a religion
• Democracy is not compatible with islam
• Wife beating is allowed in The Quran
• No freedom of speech in Islam
• Muhammad was more than just a human
• The Quran rejects evolution
• The Quran reject previous scriptures (e.g. The Bible)
• Halal meat uses an inhumane slaughter method
• Islam and The Quran teaches that the flood of Noah was global
• The Quran says the Earth was created in 6 days

"



We shouldn't be so desperate for non-Muslim approval that we water down our religion to make non-Muslims happy. This not "dawah," this is just spinelessness.

Obviously, they mix in some truth with the lies- yes, it is true that Islam doesn't promote suicide bombing. But mixing truth with lies is common amongst liars and it doesn't change that that site is garbage.

If you're a guy and you find that kind of "water down your religion to beg Westerners for approval" approach appealing, maybe do some weightlifting. You might be suffering from low testosterone levels.

That website reminds me of Yasir Qadhi.

 

[Veteran]

Interesting perspective, but I have one problem with this. If you can bring this perspective into the this verse then couldn't you say it for whole Quran, thus basically saying the Quran is open to interpretation?




Where is the daleel for this?

I am not claiming I know the full extent in fact I am very uneducated on this so I only say what I believe, so only a scholar could say what it means.

 

[Medulla]

OK Any Man gay or straight sleeping with a child under the age of 14 is a pedophile?

Don't go down the rabbit whole, next he will tell you

Has the 14 year old gone through puberty yet? Age is just a number blah blah blah

 

[P4$t0]

I am not claiming I know the full extent in fact I am very uneducated on this so I only say what I believe, so only a scholar could say what it means.

So what is the real haad for Homosexual relations?

 

[MI]

OK Any Man gay or straight sleeping with a child under the age of 14 is a pedophile?

No, that’s wrong too. Prepubescent I said, the average age of menarche for women is about 12-13 so you’re close enough I suppose. I’ll make this easy for you though read this study: Homosexual males make out nearly 2:1 of all offending pedophiles while being outnumbered absolutely 20:1
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/1556756/

 

[Veteran]

So what is the real haad from Homosexual relations?

You would have to ask a Islamic scholar, somalispot users aren't really thoroughly educated.

 

[Omar del Sur]

You would have to ask a Islamic scholar, somalispot users aren't really thoroughly educated.

then why are you giving your viewpoint at all? you are a somalispot user just like anyone else here

 

[Basra]

You would have to ask a Islamic scholar, somalispot users aren't really thoroughly educated.

I am glad u understood @P4$t0 question, because I was scratching my naasos, confused

 

[Veteran]

then why are you giving your viewpoint at all? you are a somalispot user just like anyone else here

I am just giving my viewpoint because I can?
Is it haram to think or give opinions?

Calm yourself sxb.

 

[MI]

Lmao Basra you gave me a qashin for straight facts, women I swear, no wonder you guys don’t deserve equal rights

 

[haqiiiiiin]

Interesting perspective, but I have one problem with this. If you can bring this perspective into the this verse then couldn't you say it for whole Quran, thus basically saying the Quran is open to interpretation?




Where is the daleel for this?

Homosexuality is sin which falls under zina categori

24:2) Those who fornicate - whether female or male - flog each one of them with a hundred lashes.2And let not tenderness for them deter you from what pertains to Allah's religion, if you do truly believe in Allah and the Last Day3; and let a party of believers witness their punishment.4

 

[Western4Life]

Sexual orientation is on a spectrum. There is no person that is 100% straight but you can be 100% gay.

 

[Basra]

Sexual orientation is on a spectrum. There is no person that is 100% straight but you can be 100% gay.

You are a gay demon


A spectrum is a spectrum. Why are u allowing 100% gay spectrum and not 100% straight? U iz a gay demon plus atheist

 

[Western4Life]

You are a gay demon


A spectrum is a spectrum. Why are u allowing 100% gay spectrum and not 100% straight? U iz a gay demon plus atheist

Straight people I know have done questionable things, like women who grab each other's breasts and make out and men whose favourite part of their visit to the barber are neck and head massages at the end (I don't even like this).

I would like to edit that. I would say 1% of straight people are fully straight, like my family members. They believe homosexuality is wrong and a sin but they don't obsess about them like other straight people do. There is research that found that most rabid homophobes are actually gay or bisexual.

 

[Western4Life]

@Basra I am not an atheist. I don't know why people use that as a slur. You would be atheist if you lived in North Korea, Catholic if you were born in Latin America. You should be respectful of other people's beliefs if you want people to be respectful of yours.

 

[Basra]

Straight people I know have done questionable things, like women who grab each other's breasts and make out and men whose favourite part of their visit to the barber are neck and head massages at the end (I don't even like this).

I would like to edit that. I would say 1% of straight people are fully straight, like my family members. They believe homosexuality is wrong and a sin but they don't obsess about them like other straight people do. There is research that found that most rabid homophobes are actually gay or bisexual.

I am still munching on that above highlighted nasty confession

 

[Basra]

@Basra I am not an atheist. I don't know why people use that as a slur. You would be atheist if you lived in North Korea, Catholic if you were born in Latin America. You should be respectful of other people's beliefs if you want people to be respectful of yours.

I am watching u

 

[Omar del Sur]

I am just giving my viewpoint because I can?
Is it haram to think or give opinions?

Calm yourself sxb.

I'm pretty calm but that's besides the point. Calling to eliminate the hadd punishments is extremely wrong and may actually constitute apostasy or come dangerously close to it.

The kufr of one who rules according to other than what Allaah revealed

https://islamqa.info/en/answers/974...-according-to-other-than-what-allaah-revealed

if someone is going to call people towards misguidance, it's right to point out what they're saying is wrong