Hargeysa Newspaper spreading lies about Suldaan Wabar

[Invader]

Jeegaan scum politics one day they will get punked Wajaale , Gabiley and Arabsiyo are Samaroon degaans. Over my dead body Sambsusa rats

Shut up. These are my hometowns from my paternal side you’re hypocrite when you tell ‘jeegans’ that they have no right to call Awdal as a part of Somaliland yet you say Arabsiyo and Gabiley are Samaroon.
They are proudly Jibril Abokor.
Someone collect your dad @Kezira and tell him that this isn’t Somalia anymore

 

[Factz]

@HMuuse shut up. Arabsiyo and Gabiley are proudly Jibril Abokor cities. @Factz give this guy some facts about this

He suffers from langaab syndrome. He claims lands that aren't settled by his clan.


Jibril Abokor lands extend from West Hargeisa to Dilla. This source tells you the border where Jibril Abokor and Gadabursi farms mingle.

In fact, there is more Jibril Abokor in Awdal than there are Gadabursi in Gabiley district.

The district council of Gabilay consists of 21 members.

15 are Sacad Muuse - Jibriil Abokor
2 are Sacad Muse - Cabdalle Abokor
1 is Afgaab Muuse
1 is Madigaan
1 is Akhiso
1 is Gurgure

How on earth is Gabilay shared? Not a single Gadabuursi seat.

Even Madigaan is more numerous than Gadabursi in Gabiley.

 

[redsea]

The district council of Gabilay consists of 21 members.

15 are Sacad Muuse - Jibriil Abokor
2 are Sacad Muse - Cabdalle Abokor
1 is Afgaab Muuse
1 is Madigaan
1 is Akhiso
1 is Gurgure

How on earth is Gabilay shared? Not a single Gadabuursi seat.

Even Madigaan is more numerous than Gadabursi in Gabiley.

Not even 1 gadabursi in Golaha deegaanka gabiley, they have been turned into a Looma ooyaan :siilaanyolaugh:

 

[Invader]

Not even 1 gadabursi in Golaha deegaanka gabiley, have been turned into a Looma ooyaan :siilaanyolaugh:

@Kezira thinks that people who have Gadabuursi ancestry e.g some guys grandmother is Gadabuursi. They’re basically extinct when I went to Arabsiyo I haven’t even saw onehes trying to act like Christoper Columbus and claim all lands that aren’t his tribes land

 

[Samaalism]

Bro they’re crazy. By the end of muse bixi term lughaya will be an undisputed sacad muse region. If gadabursi have population in gebilay they would be seen in golaha deeganka. Clans that live next to each other are always rivals that’s why buuhoodle is more sensitive to SL and laas canood is more sensitive to PL. if there was any significant gadabursi population in gebilay muse wouldn’t have won 99% of the vote share from gebilay in the latest election.

Dawga cad road has been under construction for years now funded by sacad muse. Buuraha waan jeexnay already. When the burco ceerigabo road is complete dawga cad is ganna get a full asphalt cover.


Gadabursi have been trying to kill the development of awdal coast sacad muse so we leave and stop populating the area. Just wait till we say ceel sheikh and 6da goobod are part of lughaya then the farts will start.

f*ck Somaliland and reer xafajo marna war ku sida marna war ka sida. We are building adal state of Somalia.

 

[Samaalism]

Farm land, mountains, ancient rich harar trade routes, ports, world heritage sites, oil and gas, strategic location. Beesha will always be eating. That’s why we had 3 PMs even though we have left somalia for 30 years and the 30 years we were part of somalia 21 years was a dictatorship. Even in the dictatorship we were in golaha sare ee kacaanka.

We will get no less than 16 seats in the parliament and dominate the Fed gov along with eating from our maamul.

 

[Iceman88]

Farm land, mountains, ancient rich harar trade routes, ports, world heritage sites, oil and gas, strategic location. Beesha will always be eating. That’s why we had 3 PMs even though we have left somalia for 30 years and the 30 years we were part of somalia 21 years was a dictatorship. Even in the dictatorship we were in golaha sare ee kacaanka.

We will get no less than 16 seats in the parliament and dominate the Fed gov along with eating from our maamul.

Some of your PM where a disgrace, nothing to brag about. You would have been under Garhajis subjugation if it wasn’t For HJ.

 

[Samaalism]

Some of your PM where a disgrace, nothing to brag about. You would have been under Garhajis subjugation if it wasn’t For HJ.

Wtf are you talking about. Habar awal and garaxajis had 2 wars. 1 in 1992 vs HY and one in 1994 against cidagalle and HY. The first was a HY attack on the city of berbera were they were humiliated. The second was when garxajis said we are part of dowlada saal balaad along with all assets in their land which included hargeisa airport so they were kicked out of hargeisa as a whole.

1995 HY vs HJ war kicked off and HY kicked HJ out of burco that is facts. We had to come retake the city and made a peace deal with HY.

 

[Bohol]

Funny HA kids who think they stand chance against HY or GX 1 to 1. Berbera was occupied for 6 months (before the elders intervened and begged Tuur to withdraw), rest of HY were busy in Burco & Sanaag so even with their military power stretched they still whipped your ass in Berbera to point occupying it for 6 months. As for Hargeisa it was Cidagale militia vs all Maryalool militias (including Arab). Why do you think your folks scream "Jeegaan unity" here all the time? cause they need it badly.



When it comes to one to 1 HY sub clans use to abuse HA so much they use to beg the British government for protection against HY sub clans .


"The Ayal Yunis tribe at Bulhar laid many complaints of this kind against Habar Yunis,
The Ayal yunis suffered further aggression from the same quarter. They have now visited Berbera and have again consented to wait for any intervention possible. They will not, however consent to wait indefinitely; they will contentd that"if the government cannot guarantee them protection"

 

[HMuuse]

As for the district council, that doesn't mean anything because the Gadabuursi boycotted it in the last elections and refused to be part of the council. They fielded at least 4 candidates and withdrew all of them. This is common with Samaroon in Gabiley. Just watch this video:



As for the district, this is my region. Ill inform you of how it is settled:

Degmada Bus: Beesha Dhagaweeyne (Habar Cafaan)
Degmada Cali Xaydh: Bahabar Muuse/ Reer Maxamed/ Abrayn (Maxamed Case)
Degmada Gabiley: Bahabar Abokor
All are Baha Samaroon.

Degmada Wajaale: Reer Nuur, Baha Samaroon and Habar Awal. On the Ethiopian side: Aadan Yoonis.

 

[HMuuse]

Bro they’re crazy. By the end of muse bixi term lughaya will be an undisputed sacad muse region. If gadabursi have population in gebilay they would be seen in golaha deeganka. Clans that live next to each other are always rivals that’s why buuhoodle is more sensitive to SL and laas canood is more sensitive to PL. if there was any significant gadabursi population in gebilay muse wouldn’t have won 99% of the vote share from gebilay in the latest election.

Dawga cad road has been under construction for years now funded by sacad muse. Buuraha waan jeexnay already. When the burco ceerigabo road is complete dawga cad is ganna get a full asphalt cover.


Gadabursi have been trying to kill the development of awdal coast sacad muse so we leave and stop populating the area. Just wait till we say ceel sheikh and 6da goobod are part of lughaya then the farts will start.

f*ck Somaliland and reer xafajo marna war ku sida marna war ka sida. We are building adal state of Somalia.
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There are no Habar Awal that live anywhere in the vicinity of Lughaya. Thats just internet related sensationalism. The closest Habar Awal village to Lughaya is in the old Berbera district. East of Bullaxaar today. Lughaya is majority Maxamaed Case and the second bigges population is the Mamaasan (Ciise), specifically the Bardaxaraan subclan. They inhabit the area known as Geerisa.

The Dawga Cad road doesn't exist. The video you posted is over 7 years old. Even if it did exist (hypothetically speaking ofcourse), its projection wouldn't benefit the Habar Awal in any feasible way whatsoever because once you pass Galoolay in Gabiley district, thats the last village which is Habar Awal northwards. To see another Habar Awal village after that, you would have to strike North eastwards to the Habar Awal village of Agabar.

Either way, I do understand this is the internet afterall. So you can lie as much as you want. But the reality is, for a Habar Awal to exclusively claim Gabiley is ridiculous and to lay any stake to Lughaya is scandalous at best.

I would appreciate if posters actually bring some credible sources.

 

[Factz]

As for the district council, that doesn't mean anything because the Gadabuursi boycotted it in the last elections and refused to be part of the council. They fielded at least 4 candidates and withdrew all of them. This is common with Samaroon in Gabiley. Just watch this video:



As for the district, this is my region. Ill inform you of how it is settled:

Degmada Bus: Beesha Dhagaweeyne (Habar Cafaan)
Degmada Cali Xaydh: Bahabar Muuse/ Reer Maxamed/ Abrayn (Maxamed Case)
Degmada Gabiley: Bahabar Abokor
All are Baha Samaroon.

Degmada Wajaale: Reer Nuur, Baha Samaroon and Habar Awal. On the Ethiopian side: Aadan Yoonis.

Sorry brother, every area you have circled belongs to Reer Yoonis, Reer Xareed, Reer Dalal, Bahabar Adan and other sub-clans of Cali Jibril. I know all those villages and even been to some of them personally, never seen someone lie so much before.

The reason why Gadabursi has 0 representation in Gabiley district is because you barely settle in that district. No need to make excuses.

The border ends in Dilla in Somaliland. Anything west Dilla is strictly Jibril Abokor. In Ethiopia, Jigjiga to Wajaale is settled by Reer Yoonis. They own southern proportion of Awubere woreda. Creating fake maps on the internet won't mean anything.

Also, that's a lie. Sacad Muuse lives in the northeast part of Awdal. The reason why it's part of Awdal is because Siad Barre carved that piece of land. Yes, parts of Baki district and Lughaya district is settled by Habar Awal. Why do you think we have a seat in Awdal? It proves there are more Jibril Abokor in Awdal than Gadabursi in Gabiley.

There will be a project when Lughaya becomes SM port. We will build a road between Gabiley and Lughaya and add northeast territory of Awdal into Gabiley district and nothing you langaabs can do about it.

 

[Samaalism]

Sorry brother, every area you have circled belongs to Reer Yoonis, Reer Xareed, Reer Dalal, Bahabar Adan and other sub-clans of Cali Jibril. I know all those villages and even been to some of them personally, never seen someone lie so much before.

The reason why Gadabursi has 0 representation in Gabiley district is because you barely settle in that district. No need to make excuses.

The border ends in Dilla. Anything west Dilla is strictly Jibril Abokor. Creating fake maps on the internet won't mean anything.

Also, that's a lie. Sacad Muuse lives in the northeast part of Awdal. The reason why it's part of Awdal is because Siad Barre carved that piece of land. Yes, parts of Baki district and Lughaya district is settled by Habar Awal. Why do you think we have a seat in Awdal? It proves there are more Jibril Abokor in Awdal than Gadabursi in Gabiley.

There will be a project when Lughaya becomes SM port. We will build a road between Gabiley and Lughaya and add northeast territory of Awdal into Gabiley district and nothing you langaabs can do about it.

Bro the sheeko is finished now. Before we agreed siad barre set us on each other and allowed them to keep sed bursi. The whole awdal coast is ganna be a sacad muse province and there is no such thing as awdal. This is gobolka Waqooyi galbeed or the new name of adal state of Somalia. You will get nothing from the blue flag. Blue flag has no minority rights.

 

[Factz]

Bro the sheeko is finished now. Before we agreed siad barre set us on each other and allowed them to keep sed bursi. The whole awdal coast is ganna be a sacad muse province and there is no such thing as awdal. This is gobolka Waqooyi galbeed or the new name of adal state of Somalia. You will get nothing from the blue flag. Blue flag has no minority rights.

This fool was making fake maps and claiming sub-clan Jibril Abokor territories then made excuses why langaab clans in Gabiley have a seat and Gadabursi doesn't.


Don't waste your time with people making fake maps and making excuses about the election. They have wild conspiracy theories. They can't fathom the fact that Gabiley district is exclusively settled by Jibril Abokor and parts of Awdal settled by Habar Awal and even have a seat in Awdal. It drives them crazy. It's better to leave them alone.

 

[HMuuse]

Sorry brother, every area you have circled belongs to Reer Yoonis, Reer Xareed, Reer Dalal, Bahabar Adan and other sub-clans of Cali Jibril. I know all those villages and even been to some of them personally, never seen someone lie so much before.

The reason why Gadabursi has 0 representation in Gabiley district is because you barely settle in that district. No need to make excuses.

The border ends in Dilla. Anything west Dilla is strictly Jibril Abokor. Creating fake maps on the internet won't mean anything. In Ethiopia, Jigjiga to Wajaale is settled by Reer Yoonis. They own southern proportion of Awubere.

Also, that's a lie. Sacad Muuse lives in the northeast part of Awdal. The reason why it's part of Awdal is because Siad Barre carved that piece of land. Yes, parts of Baki district and Lughaya district is settled by Habar Awal. Why do you think we have a seat in Awdal? It proves there are more Jibril Abokor in Awdal than Gadabursi in Gabiley.

There will be a project when Lughaya becomes SM port. We will build a road between Gabiley and Lughaya and add northeast territory of Awdal into Gabiley district and nothing you langaabs can do about it.

Well.

The map that you posted is contradicting your own statement. I.M Lewis states that the boundary is in Kalabaydh. So pick your sources carefully or it can come back to bite you. Kalabaydh is only a few kilometres west of Gabiley town.
This discussion isn't even about Gadabuursi only. There are many lineages that are native to this region. The Akisho, the Madigaan, the Ugaadhyahaan, the Gabooye. It just so happens that the majority are both Gadabuursi and Habar Awal in almost equal numbers. The main Habar Awal area or settlement is east of Gabiley towards Arabsiyo and North East towards Agabar. The continous chain NorthWest corrdidor is purely Gadabuursi Baha Samaroon.

You should read this:
https://www.refworld.org/docid/3ae6acef58.html
Somalia: Information on the situation of Gadabursi clan members in Gebileh in, north west of Somaliland

 

[Iceman88]

How come SM and Gudabirsi never fight. Are you nomads or farmers. Last time when something happened there was couple people killed in Dilla. There was a woman beheaded which was quite shameful. Reer Qabiley and Reer Awdal seem very timid compared to the rest of Somaliland clans.

 

[HMuuse]

Bro the sheeko is finished now. Before we agreed siad barre set us on each other and allowed them to keep sed bursi. The whole awdal coast is ganna be a sacad muse province and there is no such thing as awdal. This is gobolka Waqooyi galbeed or the new name of adal state of Somalia. You will get nothing from the blue flag. Blue flag has no minority rights.

If the two states unite. The Habar Awal will be the biggest losers and the Gadabuursi and Garhajis would eat the most.

The majority clan in Waqooyi Galbeed is Garhajis and the majority clan in Awdal is Gadabuursi. That would be a disaster for the Habar Awal, which is why they are so adamant on the Somaliland project.

Lughaya is quite far away. Focus more on Ceel Sheekh (which was previously of the Berbera district), currently has a Maxamed Case (Samaroon) mayor.

 

[HMuuse]

This fool was making fake maps and claiming sub-clan Jibril Abokor territories then made excuses why langaab clans in Gabiley have a seat and Gadabursi doesn't.


Don't waste your time with people making fake maps and making excuses about the election. They have wild conspiracy theories. They can't fathom the fact that Gabiley district is exclusively settled by Jibril Abokor and parts of Awdal settled by Habar Awal and even have a seat in Awdal. It drives them crazy. It's better to leave them alone.

Isaaq do not have even one seat in Awdal. They tried to cheat one Issa Mamasaan from his seat in 2012 and he kicked him out. Currently standing there isn't even one.
As for Gabiley district, before the Somaliland project, in the 70's the mayor of Wajaale was Reer Nuur and the district commissioner in Gabiley was Jaamac Samatar who was Bahabar Abokor (Baha Samaroon).

 

[HMuuse]

How come SM and Gudabirsi never fight. Are you nomads or farmers. Last time when something happened there was couple people killed in Dilla. There was a woman beheaded which was quite shameful. Reer Qabiley and Reer Awdal seem very timid compared to the rest of Somaliland clans.

Actually, the fighting was in Ceel Bardaale and Seemaal which are a few kilometers near Gabiley. It is much closer to Gabiley than Dilla. The circled area of the map was where those clashes took place:

 

[Factz]

Well.

The map that you posted is contradicting your own statement. I.M Lewis states that the boundary is in Kalabaydh. So pick your sources carefully or it can come back to bite you. Kalabaydh is only a few kilometres west of Gabiley town.
This discussion isn't even about Gadabuursi only. There are many lineages that are native to this region. The Akisho, the Madigaan, the Ugaadhyahaan, the Gabooye. It just so happens that the majority are both Gadabuursi and Habar Awal in almost equal numbers. The main Habar Awal area or settlement is east of Gabiley towards Arabsiyo and North East towards Agabar. The continous chain NorthWest corrdidor is purely Gadabuursi Baha Samaroon.

You should read this:
https://www.refworld.org/docid/3ae6acef58.html
Somalia: Information on the situation of Gadabursi clan members in Gebileh in, north west of Somaliland

You seem to have reading comprehension. It says Jibril Abokor land extends from Dilla meaning Dilla is the border. Also, it never said Kalabaydh is shared. It said near kalabaydh is where Jibril Abokor and Gadabursi farms mingle which is near Dilla.

Also, Lewis never mentioned the coast so it did not contradict my map. Look at this old map of Burton's route to Harar from the coast. HA are firmly established in coastal Awdal.

It correctly shows Samaroon land in SL starting at Dilla.

Habar Awal traditional wells and grazing grounds, which clearly shows that Gabiley, Arabsiyo, Ceelbardale, Qabri Bahar, Biji, Biyo Dader, and more as all native Jibril Abokor towns. Some of the towns listed are northwest of Gabiley district.

I will just say this clearly. Gadabursi have no settlement in Gabiley district whatsoever. They do have some farms but only within different Jibril Abokor sub-clans. This is why you have no seat in Gabiley district and I am aware of other langaabs in Gabiley district. Every region in Somaliweyn has langaabs but our langaabs are represented and if no other clan is represented that means they don't live in Gabiley district, period.