That nobody cares about tribalism, somalia is tribalism personified
For those Somali's from Ethiopia's Somali Region/Somali Galbeed
- Thread starter Abba Sadacha
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The question of this thread is hypothetical what will happen to kalinka shanaad if Ethiopia falls and what way will they go and the reality answer is it depends on the community of each clan what their people think is best for their future and the Somali elite politicians in Jigjiga has no say on the issue as the elders and the people will decide. Having Hawd join back to Somaliland that's my opinion and it's popular among my community in there as it will make things easier especially economically .
Incorrect. Majority of Samaroon reside in K5. 65-70% of the Samaroon population live there..
Anyhow what could possibly make the Samaroon there unite with Awdal other than uniting with their kin, there’s no other benefits to it..Zero economic, social and cultural benefits in joining.
They’ll be better off with an independent Galbeed or Galbeed joining Somalia, if they play their cards right.
Same could be said for certain Isaaq subs, but hey you go reunite your Galbeed villages to SL, see if SL can handle that pressure..
I didn’t meant tribalism for Somalis, you need to read what I wrote again. I said no one in the world as hypothetically the African Union and UN will be involved. If you divide up a state, no one will give recognition because some unrecognized state of Somalia said their people live in a small area of it. Get serious.
Sitti or other Ciise territories joining Dijbouti would cause more problem or chaos inside the country as Canfarta wouldn't agree to have more Ciise in their country while their region isn't going to be part of Djibouti and have access to that port that's why Ethiopia falling down is bad for Djibouti stability.
On Somaliland you are right on its issue for recognition as it claims the borders of pre union but other hand you have a community wanting to join you and Somalia I believe didn't drop its claim of Somaliweyn as we think that will resurrect again once Ethiopia falls and claiming all Kalinka shanaad
You know how somalis are they all care about some kuursi and if they dont get it they will rebel. It makes more sense if every qabil in the somali region joins there clan. Maybe IOG doesnt want sitti to join djibouti because the other cisse sub clans will Outnumber his family.
What has recognition got to with it? Somaliland is making deals with ethiopia and uae, directly undermining Somalias sovereignty and Somalia Aka Amisom can't do anything
What about the port as Samaroon especially nomads in kalinka shanaad depend on it as it's close to them which will make sense for them to join up with Awdal and already many of them go back and forth on the border.
It's just hypothetical let's not pretend everything will be fine as we know Ethiopia falling down will cause catastrophic consequence with economic problem hitting SL Djibouti and Somalia and also instability especially in Dir dawa the border in Djibouti with Afar region and you also got Eritrea which is afraid of Canfarta insurgency as Canfarta want Assab port to reconnect with their landlocked region.
Another problem if Sitti joins up it won't be acceptable to canfarta who would see it threat to their political representation in the country and you also got Afar region that could start armed insurgency inside Djibouti
Them taking advantage of a weak central government is whatever. Puntland itself can do that. Jubaland does it all the time. Your not the only one.
But to think they’ll have any say of what will happen in the Somali region of Ethiopia is delusional. If Ethiopia were to let go of that region which the African Union and the UN would be involved, the only deal that would be available is unite with Somalia or go the independent route which jigjiga is the capital. Somaliland will not be thought of. Like I said, your not recognized.
Uhmm who got boots on the ground?? That's right the one that can enforce its authority can and it doesn't matter what International community thinks as Ethiopia is gone with everyone going their separate way but a collapse of Ethiopia isn't good for somalia stability as AS could possibly sneak in and establish new base
When they join somalia or go independent in this hypothetical of yours. What's to stop regions like hawd from wanting to secede just like somaliland? There's way more options available
You talk as if Hawd is just Isaaq lol. And if the Isaaq parts of Hawd try and secede, no one will hear them, just like no one hears Somaliland.
There’s no other options, it’s either join a recognized country like Somalia or go independent.
Being landlocked has its troubles but berbera and Djibouti is there.
I don’t know much about Ogadenia, why has it never tried to gain independence like Eritrea?
You know if they join somalia it will be divided into several clan states as somalia federal system is based on tribalism
That’s why you want hawd, just for tribal reasons.You know if they join somalia it will be divided into several clan states as somalia federal system is based on tribalism
Isn't your liyuu police or militia mostly for cagdheer the ones that TPLF created to fight off their kins ONLFIidoors tryna use the Dir card when it suits them. Not working and never will. Where was Iidoor when it was Ogaden soldiers and boys protecting cisse citizens in sitti from Canfar. Cisse are forever indebted to Ogaden. Iidoorow take your Dir bullshit and shove it up your ass
Yeah good job defending Ciise
You know I'm ok with dhulbahante and Samaroon to join us as that will help and increase the diversity and democratic voice in SomalilandThat’s why you want hawd, just for tribal reasons.
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