FGS cabinet signs off on Turkish Naval agreement, which is to be implemented within 24 hours!

[FBIsomalia]

HSM is your president and he sold your sea while your region tried to sell Bosaaso to a shit unknown subsidiary of a subsidiary of DP world who were willing to upgrade your shallow port into something functional but terrorists kept assasinating the workers like Paul Formosa

Typical idoor, " Qoslaya is your president". Ironic same joke goes to you too.But we are not like you selling your land to xabashi we fight Qoslaya head to head.

Plus for your information DP world already started to build our port since 2023, of-course your qaldaan didnt give attention because of Gojacadee humiliation .

 

[FBIsomalia]

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[Zak12]

FGS and SL speedrunning to see which can screw over Somalis the most.

 

[FBIsomalia]

FGS and SL speedrunning to see which can screw over Somalis the most.

That is why MJ should rule both of them .

 

[Zak12]

That is why MJ should rule both of them .

I welcome Ugaas Deni

 

[Sup]

Go and worship HSM somewhere else man. If anyone is stupid it’s you lot. At least the other Somalis on this thread are waiting for the full detailed enclosure. I knew Waziir TikTok was up to no good when he went Turkey to sign Allah knows what was written on those documents. You got robbed if oil is included, I’m telling you now. No amount of “we need navy” “we need protection” etc will help us. We don’t need protection. You generate money first from the oil extracted then you build your navy and army overtime. It’s a slow process. You HSM supporters better hope the oil is not included in this deal because you and I both know it won’t be tolerated by the masses back home.


Khair inshaAllah let’s wait and hope our oil is not included.

He’s made valid point bud, but we’d have to wait for the details to come out first before coming to a conclusion.

 

[Sup]

Why do you think this deal was rushed so quick

How do you know it was rushed, indications suggest it’s been talked about for weeks if not months !

 

[SamaaleCushite]

no one to monitor the turks. Any force monitoring them they will bribe. Theyll definetly build stuff but theyll end up hauling 90% of fish and maritime wealth and give scraps to corrupt fgs officials to appease them.

Japanese saying :

"A frog in a well knows nothing of the sea."

I hope im wrong, but if you look at the thought process of the avg turk they dont like somalis nor care for them, their economy is in the gutter and a few officials ratifing a document to build maritime resources for an african nation whom they consider their lesser is not something to be happy about. Its always better through determination to build ur own even if you have to go through decades of sufferng for it.

 

[Knaan99]

DELULU IS NOT THE SELULU
lets say somalia has 10X the oil that Saudi does what the hell will somalia do with no security guarantees or navies pls tell me
Guyana that small backwards nation has a GDP pr capita of 20k vs Somalis 700 dollars a year do with that what you want

They want us to set on the oil for another 10 years because "my uncle is not in the office."
By then oil becomes what coal is today. Still used today, but $93 a ton will hardly make anyone rich. When salt is like $220 a ton.
And forget about 30%, oil companies take like 80% for the first 2 years until they get their money back + profit. No free launch here. On top of that. oil companies don't offer naval protection. This deal will put them at ease to come invest billions of dollars.

What I'm worried about is the with mass corruption and kick-backs that politicians receive. Especially, with the federal system = 5-6x more politicians that want a cut vs Kenya(the ruling group that's eating good)
That being said, saw some saying we will become like the new nigeria. Nigeria is 220m and only put out 1.8 million barrels a day. Even then, take look at abuja. .

With the looming climate change and our extremely high ferality rate, oil(2m+ barrels a day) by 2027 or its over for us.

 

[mohammdov]

Your whole understanding of geopolitics is that of a child (goes for others on here too). By your logic I guess the UK is a UAE colony and Australia a Chinese colony, your half wittedness insults me.

your parliament seems to have an understanding of the policy. The Turks will only exploit you and plunder your sea, but as long as you do not have a problem, you are free. African armies are in your country as well. You are accustomed to colonialism.
We saw what Turkey did to the Syrians when they convinced them to fight and that they would help them, but they just watched them in the end.

 

[Pastoralist]

"A frog in a well knows nothing of the sea."

reminded me of one piece

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Your post would be a corrupt side to erdogan that we have yet to see, so far it’s been naxaris with strategic and financial gain. People say they take all of Aden adde international’s money but it’s our airport which they put quality time into building. The Turkish hospital in mogadishu is the most advanced. There’s obviously much more, but their demeanour thus far would not be consistent with the future you see. Even after their trained troops were massacred by M**** S****’s N*** and their tripartite alliance with us & Eritrea was reversed by Hassan. They disrespected him by sending their most useless minister, the minister of forest, to meet Hassan. Despite the hostility their projects within the nation remained open, which shows sincerity. They could take advantage of Somalia solely because of Hassan’s weakness which is true, but they most likely won’t overstep.

 

[Shangani]

your parliament seems to have an understanding of the policy. The Turks will only exploit you and plunder your sea, but as long as you do not have a problem, you are free. African armies are in your country as well. You are accustomed to colonialism.
We saw what Turkey did to the Syrians when they convinced them to fight and that they would help them, but they just watched them in the end.

African armies are in our country and you still don't have independence so technically you're still under the control of a failed nation how does that feel

 

[Sup]

your parliament seems to have an understanding of the policy. The Turks will only exploit you and plunder your sea, but as long as you do not have a problem, you are free. African armies are in your country as well. You are accustomed to colonialism.
We saw what Turkey did to the Syrians when they convinced them to fight and that they would help them, but they just watched them in the end.

Thank you for yet again proving my point !
Everything that’s coming out of your mouths is heresy, you’re an individual with no knowledge but yet here you are giving your two cents.

You obviously don’t know the meaning of colonialism, I’m assuming you know why the AU are there ? Pretty self explanatory don’t you think !
Pretty ironic coming from you tho, your ancestors fought for centuries to keep those people at bay, and yet here you are calling for them to occupy “your” land, Son of OROMO Kulaha these two scenarios aren’t the same buddy.

when did Turkey ever offer to help Syria the two governments don’t exactly see eye to eye. What they did though was create and fund their own militias to fight, and then later on had boots on the ground, so they could create a buffer zone to protect their border, whilst planning to repatriate Syrian refugees. I’m assuming that’s what you’re getting at ! lol

In regards to this deal, I and most normal people on here (which is pretty much everyone) are waiting for the terms to come out. If it’s fair most people will support it, if it isn’t well I’m sure the people will tell the government how they feel. In the mean time try not to make yourself look silly yea! Brilliant, good talk.

 

[Zak12]

Thank you for yet again proving my point !
Everything that’s coming out of your mouths is heresy, you’re an individual with no knowledge but yet here you are giving your two cents.

You obviously don’t know the meaning of colonialism, I’m assuming you know why the AU are there ? Pretty self explanatory don’t you think !
Pretty ironic coming from you tho, your ancestors fought for centuries to keep those people at bay, and yet here you are calling for them to occupy “your” land, Son of OROMO Kulaha these two scenarios aren’t the same buddy.

when did Turkey ever offer to help Syria the two governments don’t exactly see eye to eye. What they did though was create and fund their own militias to fight, and then later on had boots on the ground, so they could create a buffer zone to protect their border, whilst planning to repatriate Syrian refugees. I’m assuming that’s what you’re getting at ! lol

In regards to this deal, I and most normal people on here (which is pretty much everyone) are waiting for the terms to come out. If it’s fair most people will support it, if it isn’t well I’m sure the people will tell the government how they feel. In the mean time try not to make yourself look silly yea! Brilliant, good talk.

The details better come out soon. As per usual twitter is engaging in major disinfo and the anti-Somalia crowd thinks we sold our entire sea to Turkey. Low IQ people should be banned from social media.

 

[Zak12]

Look at these fools, they easily fall for fake news lol

 

[Kool-Aid]

Look at these fools, they easily fall for fake news lol

lol @Grigori Rasputin always spreading fake news!

 

[Bazed]

@Grigori Rasputin hey bud stick to beefing that fat somali huh.

 

[Three Moons]

why do you think it was rushed? Because the general public would not have agreed to it. No one even understands what the deal entails. Imagine a random Turk coming to you to safe guard your coast knowing very well that you are sitting on trillion dollars of oil.

All we ever needed was to sign a deal with the big giant oil companies. The revenue FGS generates from it is enough to build a naval force with the latest state of the art weapons and equipments.

This is an embarrassing deal and HSM knows it hence keeping it secret and rushing it within 24 hours

You make good points and I get your concerns, but Turkey does not need our oil and gas in the same way most countries in the world do, as the largest new energy reserves in Europe are currently being discovered on a regular basis in Turkey and by Turkish exploration companies, which are also worth trillions, such as the gas field in the Black Sea and the one billion of barrels of oil in the Sirnak province alone, yet in the last 5 years their daily production capacity has only doubled from 50 thousand barrels a day to 100 thousand barrels a day.

Somalia is expected to produce its first oil by the end of the year, but that doesn’t mean it will suddenly export one million barrels a day like the OPEC heavyweights or Russia, we will be lucky if we break the 50 to 100 thousand barrels a day threshold by the end of the decade. That would still mean $1.5 billion to $3 billion of extra income for the FGS a year, and if the energy reserves are included in the Defense pact, Turkey would receive between $450 million to around $900 million a year, give or take from this deal. This would justify for them to pay the upfront costs of establishing an expensive navy the way they did for Turkmenistan, and train a large naval force, a considerable part of which they have already done in the last 5 years, on their own dime. This would also pay for all of the operational costs for their naval presence to protect Somali waters.

We should remember that this deal did not just drop out of the sky. The Farmaajo-Khayre administration had already offered this deal to Erdogan in 2020, and both groups were waiting for the arms-embargo to be lifted, but the UNSC kept extending the embargo year after year until the Farmaajo government’s mandate had expired, yet the deal remained on the table when HSM came into office.

However, even three months ago when the embargo was lifted the political climate was completely different. HSM didn’t have to deal with an expansionist neighbour looking to annex a significant part of his country so boldly, in-fact majority of the so-called analysts said Abiy was targeting Eritrea, so there was no need to sign the pact. In the first half of his term HSM moved closer to other countries, only to brutally realise two years later that their interests were vastly different from his. Today the Somalia-Turkey Defense pact is a reality and operational largely because of what unfolded in the last month and a half, and the fact that it was rushed through so fast tells me that Somalia’s enemies were planning on doing something catastrophic and irreversible in the next two weeks but have been thwarted.

What will happen now is that Turkey will provide the FGS with an immediately available powerful naval component to secure its sovereign waters in the short term, and built its own navy in the long term. Somalia already signed deals with the BIGGEST oil companies in the world, none of them are willing to risk their talent and equipment in an uncertain environment regardless of the potential profits. A reality where Somalia’s waters are fully secure equals a major influx of Foreign Direct Investment.

Initially this will only cover the southern and central offshore Blue Economy of Somalia as Puntland and Somaliland will naturally protest any commercial activity in their waters but oil rigs will eventually land in their waters too, on their terms, once they see the profits coming from the rigs in the south and central regions, but make no mistake this deal prevents all military maritime activity by any country that is not approved by the FGS in Somali waters.

That is a major checkmate against the entities that were betting their future plans on Somalia’s EEZ being a no man’s land. None of them have the capabilities to take on a top 10 NATO-tier Blue Water navy, so HSM has prevented a large chunk of his country being annexed in the short term and put the foundations in place for his successor to have a capable Somali Navy in the long term.

A Defense or Friendship pact can always be rescinded if the other party does not deliver on its promises, we saw this when Somalia kicked out the Soviet Union and all their assets reverted to Somali hands. The difference here being that Somalia is finally invoking its strategic location, natural resources and Blue Economy to its advantage, which makes it vastly more attractive than Ethiopia, even if the latter had a billion plus population.

 

[RiceMuncher]

 

[FBIsomalia]