Can you be considered a Somali if you are non Muslim
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You can be genetically but a massive portion of somali culture is tied with islam.
To be fair somali culture does not have that massive impact or influence on me, most of our modern culture are parts taken from Arab, Ethiopian and even Indian culture. Since most of our native practices and traditions have died out and our culture now just consists of one religion, it wouldn't theoretically make sense for non-muslim somalis to engage with it.
Regarding our community as whole, to me personally it's kind of useless? like it does not benefit the average somali like it should be. I know I sounds negative but one thing I can "connect" to is probaly the people, like somalis individually are great people whom share a certain collective personality trates that I can relate to, religion and cultural mindset aside. To answer your question ethnically, you're still somali culturally probaly not.
Regarding our community as whole, to me personally it's kind of useless? like it does not benefit the average somali like it should be. I know I sounds negative but one thing I can "connect" to is probaly the people, like somalis individually are great people whom share a certain collective personality trates that I can relate to, religion and cultural mindset aside. To answer your question ethnically, you're still somali culturally probaly not.
JackieBurkhart
The years don't matter, the life in those years do
Really? I don't feel that way. Other than practicing Islam, I don't share many similarities with ajnabis. I mean, we have dhaanto, food, poetry, dances, etc. To assume us to be connected to other Muslims just because we're Muslim is an overstatement. I don't attempt to become friends with other Muslims in my college simply because they're Muslim. I mostly gravitate towards other Somalis. Perhaps, this is simply down to me being a Somali from the Somali Region and as such I don't feel a kinship of sorts as we mostly don't have much of an interaction with non-Somalis. Of course, I don't like Ethiopians and never will.
The same thing with my sister, one of her best friends is Eritrean.
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Mr. Nur
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who posting this?
Why are you speaking from a dirty, deficit attitude mindset? Are you going through an identity crisis? Relax and show some respect to our culture, please. Delete your post. It is not good, not just for you, but for our religion and cultural values. You are representing the white-men ideology and anti-Islamic views against our Somali traditional and cultural views on our religion, which will never be recreated or changed.
Alhamdulillah
our country is 100% muslim #somalipride #somalia
Can you be considered a Somali if you are non Muslim
Why are you speaking from a dirty, deficit attitude mindset? Are you going through an identity crisis? Relax and show some respect to our culture, please. Delete your post. It is not good, not just for you, but for our religion and cultural values. You are representing the white-men ideology and anti-Islamic views against our Somali traditional and cultural views on our religion, which will never be recreated or changed.
Alhamdulillah
our country is 100% muslim #somalipride #somalia
Of course they are and I doubt they care if other Somalis mess with them or not.
Gacmeey
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Can you share examples of what native practices and traditions have died out and what part of Somali culture are taken other cultures?
It must be made clear even to the most remote Somali nomad that murtads equal subhumanity. This should be brought as a leitimov, and from time to time, in the form of existing media such as television; until every Somali sees ever murtad, either their native brother or foreigner, as vermin.
One is forever Somali irrespective of one's religion, or faith.
One's faith, and its practice are between one and his Creator. Just like Most [operative] Muslims, Somalis are so by accident, and many [operative] know nigh to naught about Islam, and often practice out of habit than duty. Or so I think.
Somalia = Islam Alhamduillah
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Can you be considered a Somali if you are non Muslim
hell nahh your habasha now walalo.
Why are you speaking from a dirty, deficit attitude mindset? Are you going through an identity crisis? Relax and show some respect to our culture, please. Delete your post. It is not good, not just for you, but for our religion and cultural values. You are representing the white-men ideology and anti-Islamic views against our Somali traditional and cultural views on our religion, which will never be recreated or changed.
Alhamdulillah
JackieBurkhart
The years don't matter, the life in those years do
Why are you so right on this?
My mother's relative basically killed himself from smoking, and my mom still visited him in the hospital, and my father prayed for him. She still speaks fondly of him. My cousin married a non-hijabi and relatives still talk to him. Even a relative's daughter who they suspect is irreligious, and they still talk to and support her. I thought all Somalis were strict Muslims and would cut off anyone with hints of irreligiosity, until I realized a lot of Somalis have a 'don't ask, don't tell' policy when it comes to issues such as this.
To say I was shocked was an understatement. I thought Somalis were more strict than that.
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The only reason i gravitate to other muslims is
1. we most likely share common ethics
2. There are parts of muslim identity that is universally shared amongst all muslims.
I think there are somethings that can be considered βmuslim cultureβ thats why i can relate to stories of an ajanabi upbringing even if we come for different parts of the world.
Even a broken clock is right once, no?Why are you so right on this?
And by that logic, I am permitted to be right once, right?
JackieBurkhart
The years don't matter, the life in those years do
That must be different for you as I never felt much of a connection with people simply based on a common thing. But also, if I were to be friends with non-Muslims, they were often strictly religious people. Your second point feels like saying there's a common Christian identity, there isn't really. Unless you're talking about adherding to basic tenets. But that's really just part of the religion, I don't dwell much on it.
empressjamila
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If those people were to take a DNA test the results would show Somali..therefore they are Somali whether we like it or not
Culturally they are western but their heritage/ancestry will always be Somali
Culturally they are western but their heritage/ancestry will always be Somali
I squat on the opposite side of the fence so far as Muslims are concerned.
Quite the loner, are not you? Unless of course you reside in little Xamar (Minneapolis), in which case, you are quite disadvantaged, sheltered, and missing alot.
Why one, and not the other? And why so?
JackieBurkhart
The years don't matter, the life in those years do
Care to elaborate on your first point?
As for your second point, I just don't feel much of a connection with non-Somalis. To be around your own people is an experience in itself. And yes, I do live close to Little Mogadishu. It's lovely, you should visit sometime.
*Obviously due to the oppression we face at the hands of the Ethiopian government, and the multiple different successive ethnic regimes which have oppressed us. You see this now with Abiy Ahmed and his Oromo regime. Not to mention how they love to lump us in with the rest of Ethiopia and say reuniting with Somalia is thieving them of land they stole. They promote this unity know how much we are against it. I could discuss Oromos now demanding representation in Somalia even though we would never be allowed that deep into their territory. Not to mention Amharic being forced as the language there. There is a lot of history that would take me a while to explain.
Somalia and Eritrea have no bad blood and we've helped each other out, we also share a common enemy as well.
Simply put, I have got greater affinity with Muslims than you do, and much closer relationship with them than my non-Muslim friends, colleagues, and acquaintances.
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