Can you be considered a Somali if you are non Muslim

[niggaibnh]

To be fair somali culture does not have that massive impact or influence on me, most of our modern culture are parts taken from Arab, Ethiopian and even Indian culture. Since most of our native practices and traditions have died out and our culture now just consists of one religion, it wouldn't theoretically make sense for non-muslim somalis to engage with it.

Regarding our community as whole, to me personally it's kind of useless? like it does not benefit the average somali like it should be. I know I sounds negative but one thing I can "connect" to is probaly the people, like somalis individually are great people whom share a certain collective personality trates that I can relate to, religion and cultural mindset aside. To answer your question ethnically, you're still somali culturally probaly not.

“most of our modern culture are parts taken from Arab, Ethiopian and even Indian culture. “

Other then Arab the rest is crap
I mean Ethiopian culture links more into ancient Yemenis since they’ve gave them a culture and even language. Semitic languages in the Horn of Africa came from them (ancient Yemen) except Arabic.

I think you’re downplaying somali culture

 

[niggaibnh]

to be a Somali it’s not by dna, bloodline or ethnicity.

To be a Somali is if your culture is Somali so if you speak the language , dance and even share the same food then technically you’re somali.
Why do you think us claim arab tribe (carab salax ) and Bantu tribe (Madowwayen) as Somali even tho they ain’t the same ethnicity?

 

[niggaibnh]

to be a Somali it’s not by dna, bloodline or ethnicity.

To be a Somali is if your culture is Somali so if you speak the language , dance and even share the same food then technically you’re somali.
Why do you think us claim arab tribe (carab salax ) and Bantu tribe (Madowwayen) as Somali even tho they ain’t the same ethnicity?

Hence why we say you can’t be Somali if you’re not Muslim .

Somali culture = Islam so if don’t follow Islam then the Somali wouldn’t accept you in their culture so

He would refer himself his tribe and what ever he believes in

 

[CALMONE20###]

Hence why we say you can’t be Somali if you’re not Muslim .

Somali culture = Islam so if don’t follow Islam then the Somali wouldn’t accept you in their culture so

He would refer himself his tribe and what ever he believes in

Imo if you're ethnically somali (on both sides) you are somali

 

[niggaibnh]

Imo if you're ethnically somali (on both sides) you are somali

Again Somalis views are simple
Somali = Islam so if you don’t have Islam with you then you can’t be Somali.
it doesn’t matter if you’re ethnically somali but let’s just follow your logic

Is carab salax Somalis ?

 

[niggaibnh]

Also don’t take in this the wrong way
I do not have problems with non muslim Somalis

 

[CALMONE20###]

Again Somalis views are simple
Somali = Islam so if you don’t have Islam with you then you can’t be Somali.
it doesn’t matter if you’re ethnically somali but let’s just follow your logic

Is carab salax Somalis ?

Muslim or ex muslim doesn't matter if you are fully ethnic somali you're somali

 

[CALMONE20###]

Also don’t take in this the wrong way
I do not have problems with non muslim Somalis

No offence taken

 

[Khaem]

Again Somalis views are simple
Somali = Islam so if you don’t have Islam with you then you can’t be Somali.
it doesn’t matter if you’re ethnically somali but let’s just follow your logic

Is carab salax Somalis ?

Yeah somalis don't care about your dna, if you are not culturally somali then you are as good as an Ethiopian to them. And Somali Culture is heavily tied to Islam. A non Muslim somali just cannot fit into Somali society, there is no place for them.
If You go to Somalia and tell them you are Christian they will tell you to f*ck off dirty amxaro, do you think they care if you bring up "muh 23andme" test stating you are genetically somali?

 

[niggaibnh]

Muslim or ex muslim doesn't matter if you are fully ethnic somali you're somali

The point is that the Somalis don’t care if you’re ethic Somali or not . Somalis will literally accept pale white British group Muslim as Somalis if they speak the same language as them and even dress and eat the same way as we have seen it before like Madowwayne. It’s not about the blood or if your full ethnicity. It’s more about the culture and the Somali culture is also very deep into Islam

 

[Recovering]

being somali is an ethnicity so yes but they cant participate in the somali experience however if they're not muslim

 

[CALMONE20###]

The point is that the Somalis don’t care if you’re ethic Somali or not . Somalis will literally accept pale white British group Muslim as Somalis if they speak the same language as them and even dress and eat the same way as we have seen it before like Madowwayne. It’s not about the blood or if your full ethnicity. It’s more about the culture and the Somali culture is also very deep into Islam

Not true.Somalis only see ethnic actual somalis as their own. The bantus and benadiris in somalia are only considered nationals of Somalia.

 

[Dualke]

Not true.Somalis only see ethnic actual somalis as their own. The bantus and benadiris in somalia are only considered nationals of Somalia.

Benadiris contain Somali admixture, ironically most of it is maternal

 

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Benadiris contain Somali admixture, ironically most of it is maternal

Yes this is true. My point was that fully Somali people are somali.

 

[Man with a garuun]

Not true.Somalis only see ethnic actual somalis as their own. The bantus and benadiris in somalia are only considered nationals of Somalia.

Bantus and banaadiris are Muslims. Therefore, they are fellow Somalis and our brethren.

 

[The Somali Caesar]

If I put my bias aside I don't think you could lose your ethnicity no matter what. It's like saying Kanye ain't black no more because he's a Republican.

 

[CALMONE20###]

Bantus and banaadiris are Muslims. Therefore, they are fellow Somalis and our brethren.

They are nationals of Somalia.

 

[Man with a garuun]

They are nationals of Somalia.

They are fellow Somalis and our brethren, sweetie.

Not sure if you notice but I've been gentle with you lately. I hope things work out well for you.

 

[CALMONE20###]

They are fellow Somalis and our brethren, sweetie.

Not sure if you notice but I've been gentle with you lately. I hope things work out well for you.

Thanks for the kind comment.