America SLAPS down spoiler Deni, tell him to be constructive in talks with Somalia and rejoin NCC

[killerxsmoke]

When you live under HG as long as you have you have the same math skills as them yaab

If we are shit in Math why do we have the best banks in somalia

 

[Calaami]

Deni tried meeting with China and they said go to the FGS first, I’m not even kidding. China has a strong one somalia policy and are against states undermining central government. Maybe he can beg the Russians for some support but both countries aren’t fans of dealing without the FGS

Beenta dhaaf awoowe. We’ve been trading with China for centuries and signed our first deals with them whilst you were shooting your own cousins in Suuq Bacaad

Here members of the PRC business community and chamber of commerce officials examine PL frankincense, this was only days ago

 

[bidenkulaha]

A day after Deni tried to reach out to China, HSM made sure to close this final avenue off.


So that’s UAE, Ethiopia, Laftagareen, Madoobe, US+allies (EU, U.K. international donors etc), China closed off. Any potential opposition in or from outside.

Deni might just might invite the Russians tbh but I would very much like this as PL would quickly be a pariah

 

[killerxsmoke]

Beenta dhaaf awoowe. We’ve been trading with China for centuries and signed our first deals with them whilst you were shooting your own cousins in Suuq Bacaad View attachment 261473View attachment 261474

Here members of the PRC business community and chamber of commerce officials examine PL frankincense, this was only days ago

All I see is u getting robbed

 

[Somali Saayid]

Deni tried meeting with China and they said go to the FGS first, I’m not even kidding. China has a strong one somalia policy and are against states undermining central government. Maybe he can beg the Russians for some support but both countries aren’t fans of dealing without the FGS

Nope the Russians are happy with HSM no doubt taking away recognition from Kosovo, and helping their Serbian allies + Russia and China are meeting in Moscow rn they both plan on taking the same foreign policy route I.e Nations sovereignty comes first.

 

[Prince of HS]

What are oromos doing in this thread? y’all continue to stick your noses in places it doesn’t belong. Worry about your people being stateless 2nd class citizens in Ethiopia.

he isn’t Oromo. It’s just a cope for certain users

 

[Somali Saayid]

When you live under HG as long as you have you have the same math skills as them yaab

My math skills are perfectly fine, I'd think you'd be able to catch typo but okay, console yourself. I stated my position I have no dog in this fight but I am unionist leaning. Inshallah cuulusow will humiliate Deni.

 

[Somali Saayid]

Will be renamed siyad barre International or farmaajo International.

Or sade International Airport.

Farmaajo International! I want HSM to land there and take a picture in front of the huge billboard with Farmajoo picture and name.

 

[Abdalla]

Deni won’t fudge. He won’t attend the silly consultation congress. FGS didn’t move an inch forward because Deni has not been cooperating with them. Debt relief has come to an end, so new deals signed, nothing. Deni attending the NCC will give the FGS the necessary legitimacy they need.

 

[Somali Saayid]

I suppose deni and madoobe joining badbaado qaran against farmaajo was not joining hutu?

Munaafiq.

Or ssdf and spm joining usc against siyad barre was OK?

Munaafiq

They're logic isn't sound, it's 'daarod unity' until they see a time to stab us in the back.

 

[Rationale]

You’ve been a major debunker of PL myths and fake news bro. It’s been lonely out here but we persevered. Adheerkaaga is delivering win after win. Even I underestimated him at times

PL elite haven't realized that FGS under HSM is not one trying to cause mayhem in Somalia, my adeer's primary goal is a stable and functioning Somalia and the fact all the FMS excluding PL being in good terms with HSM gives his administration a legitimacy that the IC can't ignore. PL by going against FGS unprovoked paints them as the spoilers they have been since 2012.

HSM just needs to make sure that the Hawiye and Raxanweyne elite's interest are guarded along with Kenya's preventing any mayhem in Xamar. Joining the hideous EAC was part of assuring Kenya(Madobe's handlers), that stable Somalia under strong FGS is not a threat.

 

[Prince of HS]

Deni won’t fudge. He won’t attend the silly consultation congress. FGS didn’t move an inch forward because Deni has not been cooperating with them. Debt relief has come to an end, so new deals signed, nothing. Deni attending the NCC will give the FGS the necessary legitimacy they need.

Hahah Deni isn’t coming because he has the balls in his hands. It’s because he was forced to come whether he wants to or not Tell mudane Deni we left a nice seat for him in the NCC meeting room next time

 

[astr0veiled]

he isn’t Oromo. It’s just a cope for certain users

that’s good to know, i’ve seen many oromo bootylickers here though lol.

 

[cow]

I see you are triggered. You Marehans need to join the big leagues and start investing in your dusty towns. Did you know Dekata Bosaso was the only lifeline Cabudwaaq had for almost 20 some years? Don’t make me post how much Bosaso port donated to Reer cabudwaaq from 1991- 2012.

I am the customer and I can take by business somewhere else.

You don't donate jacksh1t. Learn how business works.

 

[Unbothered]

R u Reer PL or Reer Refugee from NFD? We already on the big stage and we will soon have full control over JL FMS. Iska Xishood, the only slaves here are the ones who need the Americans to tell them what to do. I'm not in bed with Hutus I'm a staunch centralist. Power will remain 70% with the FGS and 40% to FMS Denito is hindering development my interests are that Somalia can move forward with PL being the entitled child it is we can't do that. I have no dog in this fight but I'd rather lean centralist then whatever shit PL is trying to pull. He's an old man ready to leave his kursi making buuq.

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[Xoriyo]

HSM selling the country off and signing anything that is put in front of him including potentially recognising Israel makes him a favourite of the vultures but Puntland will not be bullied into sitting down with the mooryans on their terms.

Deni will not budge on this. Puntland's autonomy from the mooryans in Xamar is worth more than the pittance that used to come through. The usual suspects have celebrated Puntland's supposed fall many times, only for Puntland to come out on top. This time won't be any different.

 

[bidenkulaha]

he isn’t Oromo. It’s just a cope for certain users

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[Somali Saayid]

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he accused mx of being Hutu slaves, ofc I'm gonna give a response, I don't speak for anyone I am not nabadoon I am not Ugaas and I am still entitled to my opinion, I said I am neutral if not slightly sympathetic to centralists. This is when he started an argument. Go back and read what happened brig you come to and tell me whom I am a representative by your logic me and someone who supports Denito both speak for Beesha?
Come on don't give me that shit, I'm a commentator not everything is about the clan I represent.

 

[killerxsmoke]

Deni won’t fudge. He won’t attend the silly consultation congress. FGS didn’t move an inch forward because Deni has not been cooperating with them. Debt relief has come to an end, so new deals signed, nothing. Deni attending the NCC will give the FGS the necessary legitimacy they need.

They are his donors, deni has to listen

 

[Man with a garuun]

NCC isn’t meant to be politicised. However Deni pulled out given he was isolated and was at odds with HSM+all the other FMS/Banadir and they were going to move forward with or without him so didn’t want to legitimise the agreements they made with his presence. It’s not just about finance, also about security, federalising the courts and increasing the powers of the FGS over the FMS (if you look at the agreed power sharing between FMS and FGS), FGS has something like 40% of the powers, FMS 30%, local councils 30%.

if you also remember PL announced it is independent of FGS and no longer going to have talks till the constitution was completed (which wouldn’t happen without them). So US, along with the rest of the ICs and international donors telling Deni to return to the NCC is a major political blow and climb down. If he continues to refuse to do so, expect sanctions. This is usually how it plays out when Somali leaders refuse American orders

Sanctions are only used to those who hold western passports or who have their family members in the West. Deni doesn't fall in either of those categories. Therefore, any threats using sanctions would have no teeth against a man whose business is either in Somalia or in the rest of Africa.

As a matter a fact, this threat from the Halane Green Zone is a good thing politically for Deni as it shows him a politician with a backbone who can defy them.

Besides, most of the Western states using donor funds as a threat is an empty thread for a state that collects taxes from their people. Nearly any humanitarian support from the Western donors to Puntland would be excluded, so I am not sure what other aid can they suspend?