tyrannicalmanager
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yes it depends on very niche situations.The Islamic approach is "It Depends". The word abortion in of itself doesn't denote haram or halal in Islam. It Depends.
yes it depends on very niche situations.The Islamic approach is "It Depends". The word abortion in of itself doesn't denote haram or halal in Islam. It Depends.
yes it depends on very niche situations.
Islam is flexible. There are things curved in stone and most of it is situational. You imply Islam is very rigid. Islam is supposed to stand against time till the Earth dies and all on it. So, how do you square that fact with necessities that are present, ones that will emerge in the long future?
That is why in Islam, Sometimes forbidden acts are allowed to save lives. From eating dead animals to abortion, there are situations that call for rule suspension.
you're not even disagreeing with me. i was implying that exception doesn't make the act Halal. the article you qouted states that Abortion is haram except for specific situation where it is allowed.For everyone's benefit in this discussion, see the following opinion regarding abortion:
Question
What is the ruling on aborting a pregnancy in the early months (1-3) before the soul is breathed into the foetus?.
Answer
Praise be to Allah.
The Council of Senior Scholars issued the following statement:
1 – It is not permissible to abort a pregnancy at any stage unless there is a legitimate reason, and within very precise limits.
2 – If the pregnancy is in the first stage, which is a period of forty days, and aborting it serves a legitimate purpose or will ward off harm, then it is permissible to abort it. But aborting it at this stage for fear of the difficulty of raising children or of being unable to bear the costs of maintaining and educating them, or for fear for their future or because the couple feel that they have enough children – this is not permissible.
3 – It is not permissible to abort a pregnancy when it is an ‘alaqah (clot) or mudghah (chewed lump of flesh) (which are the second and third periods of forty days each) until a trustworthy medical committee has decided that continuing the pregnancy poses a threat to the mother’s wellbeing, in that there is the fear that she will die if the pregnancy continues. It is permissible to abort it once all means of warding off that danger have been exhausted.
4 – After the third stage, and after four months have passed, it is not permissible to abort the pregnancy unless a group of trustworthy medical specialists decide that keeping the foetus in his mother’s womb will cause her death, and that should only be done after all means of keeping the foetus alive have been exhausted. A concession is made allowing abortion in this case so as to ward off the greater of two evils and to serve the greater of two interests.
Stats made by white folks. I worked in planned parenthood and about 85% of patients were white.They would have more kids if they weren't having an abortion. The stats indicate the black women who have abortions already have young children, so they want to avoid adding on to them. Would be easier if they had their men use condom. The guys obviously are irresponsible getting these women pregnant all the time. Sometimes some women deserve what they get since their standard is so low anyway. Nonetheless, Black women will have to deal with the consequences.
Stats made by white folks. I worked in planned parenthood and about 85% of patients were white.
you're not even disagreeing with me. i was implying that exception doesn't make the act Halal. the article you qouted states that Abortion is haram except for specific situation where it is allowed.
SS ain't got enough collective braincells to discuss this topic. You just need to go into the previous thread about roe vs wade to see niggas either trolling or applying a blanket statement that abortion = haram therefore this ruling is good. No nuances whatsoever bunch of wecels arguing over something they aint got a clue about.
Would you care to elaborate more on it ? did you take part in induced abortion mise ? mise was your work not related to abortions etcStats made by white folks. I worked in planned parenthood and about 85% of patients were white.
Cant believe some Muslims here are advocating abortion
The clinic was located in the inner city, predominantly black and Hispanic neighborhood . White women travel from rural and suburbs to get the procedure done . The Mexicans are blacks are religious and keep their babies. White republicans know that white women have been doing since roe vs wade, they think banning abortion will increase the white population.Of course, in a predominantly white area or city, you will see high number of white folks as they are the majority. Specially if you live in Minnesota, it is a white State.
The stats are across America. Mississippi which has high black population accounts for the highest infant and maternity mortality of African Americans. Backward and Conservatives white ruling state. Same stats for other southern states, and Blacks mostly live in these states.
It even gets worse for bw when you compare the stats for live births vs abortion. Abortion of bw is equivalent to almost 50 % of their live births. If bw give birth to 500k babies they’ll also abort ca 250k in the same year.Where is everyone getting that white women have higher rates of abortion compared to other racial groups? Only 29 states report abortion rates with ethnic data.
"In 2019, the abortion rate for Black women was 23.8 per 1,000 women. For Hispanic women, it was 11.7 per 1,000. And for White women, it was 6.6 per 1,000."
Here's the link: https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/ss/ss7009a1.htm#T6_down