Af Barawani radio station gets banned? But why?

Juke

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I used to think like you, but now i get it.
Many Somalis outside of Somalia like to tell them they are not Somali. Made to feel like foreigners and during the war, due to having no major qabil backing were abused as they were an easy target.

You don't mistreat people and then act shocked when they turn their backs. Despite all of this, many cadcads and Barwaanis i've come across are ridiculously proud of being Somali and even then people like @Jimmer will still tell them they are not Somali.
Lol they're neither oppressed or mistreated, they're far better well off than ethnic Somalis in the west and very proud of their Asian, non-African roots. They tell you they're Arab, Persian, Portuguese, etc.
 
The Barawanese language is a Swahili language called Chimini

Bravanese speak Chimini as a first language (also known as Chimbalazi), which is a local Kiswahili dialect,

Benadiri, Barawani, Bajuni etc, are all the same mixed race coastal trader groups who live along the East African Coast. They are Swahili people, the same people you will find in Zanzibar and Tanzania.

Sometimes they look Arab, sometimes, they look like lightskinned/Mixed Bantus people. I bet their DNA is mostly Asian.
 
We should leave them alone. They are peaceful People. Its not like, they are forcing Somalis to speak their tiny Ethnic minority language.

They are also, not asking it to recognized as National Language.
 
Lol they're neither oppressed or mistreated, they're far better well off than ethnic Somalis in the west and very proud of their Asian, non-African roots. They tell you they're Arab, Persian, Portuguese, etc.

Yes in the West, they are not oppressed obviously. I know i'm conflating cadcads with Barwaanis, but cadcads were oppressed and their women raped. My family is from Xamar and saw their neighbors looted and killed.

A lot of them will tell you they are Somalis. Some of them though have deep resentment about how they were treated during the war. Before the war, they weren't oppressed and had businesses and houses. All of that has been taken away from them. The same can be said for other ethnic Somalis, but these people aren't ethnic and so have been otherised.

All in all, Somalis outside of Somalia are shaqo' laan when it comes to telling cadcads and Barwanis they are not Somali. I used to talk like that, but recently I had to really rethink my silliness after speaking to elder members of my fam.
 

Juke

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Yes in the West, they are not oppressed obviously. I know i'm conflating cadcads with Barwaanis, but cadcads were oppressed and their women raped. My family is from Xamar and saw their neighbors looted and killed.

A lot of them will tell you they are Somalis. Some of them though have deep resentment about how they were treated during the war. Before the war, they weren't oppressed and had businesses and houses. All of that have been taken away from them.

All in all, Somalis outside of Somalia are shaqo' laan when it comes to telling cadcads and Barwanis are not Somali. I used to talk like that, but recently had to really rethink my silliness after speaking to elder members of my fam.
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I know these people very well, they're very proud of their superior non-black roots, not oppressed miskeens like Bantus.

Somalis that are born and raised in Arabia for generations don't get citizenship. Makes sense. Likewise Benadiris are Asian settlers/colonists in Somalia.
 
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I know these people very well, they're very proud of their superior non-black roots, not oppressed miskeens like Bantus.

Somalis that born and raised in Arabia don't get citizenship. Makes sense. Likewise Benadiris are Asian settlers/colonists in Somalia.


That's funny considering they look partially Bantu and they speak a Bantu language which is part of the Swahili language family.

They need to shake their family trees hard before trying to insult their own roots.

Clearly Asian traders came to East Africa and then had to marry local Bantu women to form these communities.
 
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I know these people very well, they're very proud of their superior non-black roots, not oppressed miskeens like Bantus.

Somalis that are born and raised in Arabia for generations don't get citizenship. Makes sense. Likewise Benadiris are Asian settlers/colonists in Somalia.

Not true, anyone who has lived in the Middle East knows that groups that have lived in the Khaleej pre-1965 do indeed have Emirati, Omani ect passports.

One word: Balochis.

Cadcads and Barwaanis are our version of Balochis, people that have lived in Somalia for centuries. Not giving them citizenship would be mad. Not even Arabs do this, as ethnic minorities that have lived amongst them do indeed have citizenships. Look up Oman and the UAE. Many of their citizens are Balochis.
Any Khaleeji you see with the surname Al- Balushi originates from Balochistan.
 
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I know these people very well, they're very proud of their superior non-black roots, not oppressed miskeens like Bantus.

Somalis that are born and raised in Arabia for generations don't get citizenship. Makes sense. Likewise Benadiris are Asian settlers/colonists in Somalia.


Not true really.

Harti Somalis in Oman were given Omani nationality and they intermarried with the locals to an extent where they look indistinguishable from them,

Also, Somalis who lived in the Khaleej before they became wealthy also acquired Arab nationalities.
 

Juke

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Not true, anyone who has lived in the Middle East knows that groups that have lived in the Khaleej pre-1965 do indeed have Emirati, Omani ect passports.

One word: Balochis.

Cadcads and Barwaanis are our version of Balochis, people that have lived in Somalia for centuries. Not giving them citizenship would be mad. Not even Arabs do this, as ethnic minorities that have lived amongst them do indeed have citizenships. Look up Oman and the UAE. Many of their citizens are Balochis.
I know what you're talking about, those Somalis that moved to Arabia in the 19th century were part of my tribe. One group went to colonize Kismayo (Bajuni village) and the other to Arabia to work as soldiers.

There's even some Barawanis of Balochi origin too that came with the Omanis.
 
I used to think like you, but now i get it.
Many Somalis outside of Somalia like to tell them they are not Somali. Made to feel like foreigners and during the war, due to having no major qabil backing were abused as they were an easy target.

You don't mistreat people and then act shocked when they turn their backs. Despite all of this, many cadcads and Barwaanis i've come across are ridiculously proud of being Somali and even then people like @Jimmer will still tell them they are not Somali.

What they have been through is messed up but they come from a place of privilege, where they can just throw their somalinimo away as they please. Midgaans and many other ethnic minority qabils get treated like garbage but you will never see them say that they aren’t Somali. Somali Bantus get treated way worse than them in Somalia but I have never met any online and offline that claim to not be Somali or come from Somalia.

They need to go back to Yemen, Portugal or whatever they claim to be from.
 

Juke

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Not true really.

Harti Somalis in Oman were given Omani nationality and they intermarried with the locals to an extent where they look indistinguishable from them,

Also, Somalis who lived in the Khaleej before they became wealthy also acquired Arab nationalities.
That wasn't very many people. There's currently 100,000s of Somalia that live in Arabia without citizenship.
 
I know what you're talking about, those Somalis that moved to Arabia in the 19th century were part of my tribe. One group went to colonize Kismayo (Bajuni village) and the other to Arabia to work as soldiers.

There's even some Barawanis of Balochi origin too that came with the Omanis.

Due to the fact that the Balochis have been in Oman and UAE before the creation of these nations, even before the Trucial states, they have passports and are recognized as citizens. Any Khaleeji you see with the surname Al-Balushi originates from Balochistan, but they have assimilated fully.

Cadcads and Barwanis are like this. They have been in Somalia before the creation of Somalia, so how the hell can these people not be seen as citizens?

:farmajoyaab:
 
That wasn't very many people. There's currently 100,000s of Somalia that live in Arabia without citizenship.

Majority of Somalis that don't have citizenship in Arabia arrived after 1970. The ones that have been there before are a tiny minority and some that have stayed have it. Some were offered it and refused. They thought Somalia would continue to be stable.
 

Juke

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Due to the fact that the Balochis have been in Oman and UAE before the creation of these nations, even before the Trucial states, they have passports and are recognized as citizens. Any Khaleeji you see with the surname Al-Balushi originates from Balochistan, but they have assimilated fully.

Cadcads and Barwanis are like this. They have been in Somalia before the creation of Somalia, so how the hell can these people not be seen as citizens?

:farmajoyaab:
Balochis have been loyal to the Sultan of Oman for a very long time, they were the Sultan's chosen mercenaries in swahili wars and Gwadar territory (present Pakistan) was Omani territory as was the UAE.

Benadiris aren't Somali because they're Asians.
 
That wasn't very many people. There's currently 100,000s of Somalia that live in Arabia without citizenship.


Sadly, most are probably there because they overstayed their visa, which is illegal and brings a bad reputation for Somalis.

The same way we cannot abide these Oromos who enter Somalia illegally and demand 'rights'.
(we have beef with them but still)

I wish those Somalis entered Europe/The West instead like most Somali refugees.
 
@Jimmer

Baluchis are also citizens of UAE and other gulf countries. Not just Oman.
Baluchis are not originally Arab, but are recognized and Arabised gulf citizens.

Somalis also see cadcads as Somalisized citizens. This whole 'they are not Somali' is rhetoric mostly shared by western Somalis and Somalis who do not live amongst cadcads.

If you are truly are from Xamar, I highly doubt your fam see cadcads as non Somalis.
 
@Jimmer

Baluchis are also citizens of UAE and other gulf countries. Not just Oman.
Baluchis are not originally Arab, but are recognized and Arabised gulf citizens.

Somalis also see cadcads as Somalisized citizens. This whole 'they are not Somali' is rhetoric mostly shared by western Somalis and Somalis who do not live amongst cadcads.

If you are truly are from Xamar, I highly doubt your fam see cadcads as non Somalis.
Actually Somalis outside of certain parts of konfuur see them as non Somali. No one in waqooyi, Djibouti, Bari or galbeed sees them as Somali since they don’t live alongside them.
 

Juke

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I wonder how real Arabs see and treat Balochis.
The Balochis in Oman and UAE are very Arabized. They see them as Arabs.

There's another south Asian group there from Gujarat, the khoja Ismaili. They're practically Indians. Think the Aga Khan people that dominate trade in East Africa.
 

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