What do you think about Somalis in Western militaries ?

[Galaeri]

The sophisticated Muslim world from the Middle Ages was never united. From its beginning there was constant takfir due to land and ideology. It was always divided. Europe had a history of division but pope urban ended it by declaring a holy war on Islam. During the crusades the Muslim world was still divided. It's arguably more united now than before. The ummah only existed in the time of Muhammad during the battle of badr and uhud.
I was never a fan of the iraq war but I feel the invasion of Afghanistan was justified. The Taliban was massacring innocent people and destroying ancient history (sound familiar). I'd do anything in my power to stop it, especially in a time when the country was attacked by the same ideology

Iraq was invaded because they didn't like Saddam anymore. The funny thing is Saddam was their boy, afterall he attacked and destroyed Iran simply because the Americans told him so. They even used the WMD excuse to bomb him, simply outrageous.

Not too sure about how Afghanistan went but I know those guys didn't get a break. But back when the Soviets got involved the Muslims worked together somewhat. They put pressure on the USSR and cut ties with them.

 

[Galaeri]

A Muslim Ummah has never really existed. Muslims have always conquered and killed each other. The companions murdered each other and 3 of the 4 companion caliphs were assassinated. Multiple Muslim caliphates existed alongside each other and all wanted to dominate the other. Simply put, midline are people and like all people they've always put their own interests above any others. It's how evolution works. Nature is greedy.

What I mean by the victimhood mentality is that Muslims are so obsessed with the notion that the west has some sort of agenda against them. Of course, western countries did invade them, wrongly, but to claim (not saying you do) that the west is out to destroy you is just laughable. They wouldn't need to hide it if they wanted to.

I didn't realise before but you are obviously harbouring anti-Islam sentiments. If I had known I wouldn't have bothered .

 

[The_Cosmos]

I didn't realise before but you are obviously harbouring anti-Islam sentiments. If I had known I wouldn't have bothered .

Never said a damn thing against Islam. I just pointed out the mere fact. An Ummah has never existed. You're just resorting to pettiness once realising that your fantasy is just that... a fantasy. 3 out of the 4 companions were assassinated, Aisha and many companions went to war against Ali and his supporters (they included companions). Ali's kid (the prophets grand kids) were butchered. Reality sucks.

 

[Adheer Warsame]

Iraq was invaded because they didn't like Saddam anymore. The funny thing is Saddam was their boy, afterall he attacked and destroyed Iran simply because the Americans told him so. They even used the WMD excuse to bomb him, simply outrageous.

Not too sure about how Afghanistan went but I know those guys didn't get a break. But back when the Soviets got involved the Muslims worked together somewhat. They put pressure on the USSR and cut ties with them.

People like Saddam and Assad are butchers but nessecary evils to keep the region stable. They ruled the area with an iron fist and didn't let any shady terrorist activities going on. Getting rid of them would create crazy instability and insurgency in those countries
In Afghanistan, the people who defeated the USSR were led by Osama bin laden and Abu mus'ab al zarkarwi, the founders of al Qaeda and Isis respectively. They were great leaders but of course not the best people to defeat imperialists. The world would be a better place if the USSR took Afghanistan

 

[Galaeri]

People like Saddam and Assad are butchers but nessecary evils to keep the region stable. They ruled the area with an iron fist and didn't let any shady terrorist activities going on. Getting rid of them would create crazy instability and insurgency in those countries
In Afghanistan, the people who defeated the USSR were led by Osama bin laden and Abu mus'ab al zarkarwi, the founders of al Qaeda and Isis respectively. They were great leaders but of course not the best people to defeat imperialists. The world would be a better place if the USSR took Afghanistan

Afghanistan was pretty libreal before the USSR invaded. Girls used to go to school and work without wearing any head coverings. It would have been more liberal if it wasn't invaded. Today they can't girls can't even go to schools in many parts of the country, if they opt to go they risk getting shot in the head. Even Iraq was a liberal nation during the Saddam era.

If these nations weren't destroyed they wouldn't be a hot bed for terrorists like they are today. But you guys would rather uphold whatever Western propaganda you hear as some sort of divine revelations.

 

[Adheer Warsame]

Afghanistan was pretty libreal before the USSR invaded. Girls used to go to school and work without wearing any head coverings. It would have been more liberal if it wasn't invaded. Today they can't girls can't even go to schools in many parts of the country, if they opt to go they risk getting shot in the head. Even Iraq was a liberal nation during the Saddam era.

If these nations weren't destroyed they wouldn't be a hot bed for terrorists like they are today. But you guys would rather uphold whatever Western propaganda you hear as some sort of divine revelations.

Saddam was socialist so he was obviously secular. I don't know much about Afghanistan rather than the 80s and 00s. When countries become unstable, the people won't have anything to do but become zealots. Somalia is a great example. Afghanistan is still backward because of its region. It's right next to the wahabbi indoctrinated version of India (its name shall not be mentioned). So backwards people can go to Afghanistan and spout backwards shit.
The head of the snake must be cut off and it's not even Pakistan.
(It's the lord Voldemort of the Muslim world)

 

[Galaeri]

Saddam was socialist so he was obviously secular. I don't know much about Afghanistan rather than the 80s and 00s. When countries become unstable, the people won't have anything to do but become zealots. Somalia is a great example. Afghanistan is still backward because of its region. It's right next to the wahabbi indoctrinated version of India (its name shall not be mentioned). So backwards people can go to Afghanistan and spout backwards shit.
The head of the snake must be cut off and it's not even Pakistan.
(It's the lord Voldemort of the Muslim world)

This is Afghanistan in the 50's and 60's. See the article, it has photos. It showed pretty good promise until it got sent back to the stone age.

http://www.theatlantic.com/photo/2013/07/afghanistan-in-the-1950s-and-60s/100544/

I dont like wahabis either. Somalia is fine, we haven't changed much except for the fact that every woman you see wears a jilbab. I don't know how people are suggesting we have become like Saudis, there is no stoning, no beheadings or cutting off of hands in non Alshabab controlled territories. People need to relax, so many people see the jilbab and they get shell shocked and say Arabs ruined our culture lol. I guess some people won't be happy unless they can see cleavage.

 

[Adheer Warsame]

This is Afghanistan in the 50's and 60's. See the article, it has photos. It showed pretty good promise until it got sent back to the stone age.

http://www.theatlantic.com/photo/2013/07/afghanistan-in-the-1950s-and-60s/100544/

I dont like wahabis either. Somalia is fine, we haven't changed much except for the fact that every woman you see wears a jilbab. I don't know how people are suggesting we have become like Saudis, there is no stoning, no beheadings or cutting off of hands in non Alshabab controlled territories. People need to relax, so many people see the jilbab and they get shell shocked and say Arabs ruined our culture lol. I guess some people won't be happy unless they can see cleavage.

The whole Muslim world was liberal, especially Iran (which was even pro Israel). 2 huge events happened in 1979
1. Revolution in iran
2. Seige of Makkah.
After these events, Saudi Arabia and Iran stopped moving forwards and went backwards. Saudi Arabia exported its ideology to places like Pakistan and Sudan and funds insurgent groups to undermine irans influence. They funded ISIS to overthrow Assad in Syria and are funding alqaeda and ISIS in Yemen to fight the houthi. Iran also funds groups like Hezbollah and Hamas to undermine Sunni influence (which is pro western)
Here's the links


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iranian_Revolution


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Mosque_seizure

 

[Galaeri]

The whole Muslim world was liberal, especially Iran (which was even pro Israel). 2 huge events happened in 1979
1. Revolution in iran
2. Seige of Makkah.
After these events, Saudi Arabia and Iran stopped moving forwards and went backwards. Saudi Arabia exported its ideology to places like Pakistan and Sudan and funds insurgent groups to undermine irans influence. They funded ISIS to overthrow Assad in Syria and are funding alqaeda and ISIS in Yemen to fight the houthi. Iran also funds groups like Hezbollah and Hamas to undermine Sunni influence (which is pro western)
Here's the links


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iranian_Revolution


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Mosque_seizure

Never heard of this seige of Makkah. Iran is still very liberal, you can get sex changes in Iran, not joking. The only people that would be conservative would be your village poeple.

Saudi Arabia is the mad dog of the middle east.

 

[Adheer Warsame]

Never heard of this seige of Makkah. Iran is still very liberal, you can get sex changes in Iran, not joking. The only people that would be conservative would be your village poeple.

Saudi Arabia is the mad dog of the middle east.

But thanks to Arab apologists and hypocritical """""""liberals""""""" the mad dog won't be put down anytime soon
I just can't wait to see what happens to these fuckers when the oil runs out

 

[Galaeri]

But thanks to Arab apologists and hypocritical """""""liberals""""""" the mad dog won't be put down anytime soon
I just can't wait to see what happens to these fuckers when the oil runs out

They are going to have a civil war one day. They don't treat the shias in well. They actualy have a sizeable shia population, I have heard numbers of 30%.

 

[Adheer Warsame]

They are going to have a civil war one day. They don't treat the shias in well. They actualy have a sizeable shia population, I have heard numbers of 30%.

The UN should take Makkah and medina before that happens, Saudi will lose all of its divine significance. We should take those places out of these savages reach.

 

[Sixth]

If I had to save 1 Hawiye child or ten thousand of your precious Arab brothers, you already know imma grab young Jilicow

Laughed so fucking hard at this, walking with a Jilicow who happens to be Hawiye too.

 

[Canuck]

What are you afraid of..?
Be a brave woman and stop worrying. if the NSA is gonna hack my phone they're welcome..

I don't want you to end in some prison (Cuba)

 

[Canuck]

Never said a damn thing against Islam. I just pointed out the mere fact. An Ummah has never existed. You're just resorting to pettiness once realising that your fantasy is just that... a fantasy. 3 out of the 4 companions were assassinated, Aisha and many companions went to war against Ali and his supporters (they included companions). Ali's kid (the prophets grand kids) were butchered. Reality sucks.

It is the dark side of caliphate (the stronger Muslim nation used to eat the weak Muslim nations) even the ottoman sultans used to kill their own brothers to protect their thrones.

 

[Canuck]

This is Afghanistan in the 50's and 60's. See the article, it has photos. It showed pretty good promise until it got sent back to the stone age.

http://www.theatlantic.com/photo/2013/07/afghanistan-in-the-1950s-and-60s/100544/

I dont like wahabis either. Somalia is fine, we haven't changed much except for the fact that every woman you see wears a jilbab. I don't know how people are suggesting we have become like Saudis, there is no stoning, no beheadings or cutting off of hands in non Alshabab controlled territories. People need to relax, so many people see the jilbab and they get shell shocked and say Arabs ruined our culture lol. I guess some people won't be happy unless they can see cleavage.

Jilbab is result of poverty and civil war, it started as mean to protect the girls from rape and became as custom now.

 

[Galaeri]

Jilbab is result of poverty and civil war, it started as mean to protect the girls from rape and became as custom now.

So we haven't changed at all.

I know that a bunch of the girls that wear the niqaab do it to protect their skin from sun damage. Makes sense since you can find those girls selling khat.

 

[Canuck]

So we haven't changed at all.

I know that a bunch of the girls that wear the niqaab do it to protect their skin from sun damage. Makes sense since you can find those girls selling khat.

Yes it is very hot in back home. Plus most of them can not afford to dress up daily.

 

[ace mooha]

I don't want you to end in some prison (Cuba)

If it was written by Allah that I will go to prison, then I will....
No measures can ever prevent that from happening coz it was determined before this universe ever came to existence...
So, never be afraid of no human being and hold your own then InshAllah you will be alright.

 

[ace mooha]

So we haven't changed at all.

I know that a bunch of the girls that wear the niqaab do it to protect their skin from sun damage. Makes sense since you can find those girls selling khat.

Waryaa stop the stupid assumptions..
Not every girl wears a niqaab for superficial reasons..
Others do it coz they want to please Allah the almighty.