Why couldn't a single muslim country be in top 25 best countries for women?

[Kuleyl Weeyan]

Depends on the country. Don't generalize, walaalo. There's over 50 Muslim countries in the world

Same shit. You couldn't pay me to live there.

 

[esmailxxx]

The woman got married to our prophet SAW was an independent woman with her own business,

Most of your definition of feminism is not based on your own observation and understanding,its just copy and paste,weak minded person you are you were just influenced by cadans without ever trying to see for yourself that women in the muslim world are individuals not victims,no society can just be ran by men

 

[Steamdevolopment]

Depends on the country. Don't generalize, walaalo. There's over 50 Muslim countries in the world

I think however there is general trend, where the rule of law is subverted in favor of tradition/customs/restrictive islam interpretations.

That means that even though the formal law grants certain rights to women or others, that those right aren't effective nor do they materialize in reality due to being superseded by cultural/traditions/restrictive interpretations. It leaves the victims or rights-owners without recourse and neglected as society is in in the belief that they've already dealt with the issue and given adequate protections.
Example of this are male rape victims, street children (male) who have been abused by authorities, female victims of assault/violence, minority groups in the country evt.

This study is also a good indicator of the countries which adhere to the rule of law and rational principles.

 

[Muji]

These countries are also hell hole for men. They dictators of these countries let the men do whatever they want to the women so they aren’t overthrown. In that way all men have a sense of authority except for the poor women who are treated like cattle.

 

[Apollo]

Islam is misogynist, duh.

I love getting qashin ratings now, look at these butthurt people.

 

[Steamdevolopment]

The woman got married to our prophet SAW was an independent woman with her own business,

Most of your definition of feminism is not based on your own observation and understanding,its just copy and paste,weak minded person you are you were just influenced by cadans without ever trying to see for yourself that women in the muslim world are individuals not victims,no society can just be ran by men

Which woman?

Secondly, I do not agree with all aspects of feminism. I do believe in the nuclear family with two parents (of either gender) as the basis of family life, and that women have an important role to play in such a unit.

However where I disagree with most muslims, is in the refusal of not seeing apparent inequalities and wrong as just simply because it was said by authorities.

Society can be run by men if women have no meaningful access to outside information or capability to understand such information. Literacy rates in islamic countries can be as low 1/3 for women, access to other views/systems is limited by the state, and most importantly indoctrination from birth and the social sanctions for not following the indoctrination all highly inhibit a woman's ability to even comprehend a different way, let alone seeking one out.

They're all individuals but also victims of circumstance, and many won't even understand that there is another way, and many more will refrain from seeking it out due to social sanctions that fall upon such women from honor killings to imprisonment.

 

[Snake]

Which woman?

Secondly, I do not agree with all aspects of feminism. I do believe in the nuclear family with two parents (of either gender) as the basis of family life, and that women have an important role to play in such a unit.

However where I disagree with most muslims, is in the refusal of not seeing apparent inequalities and wrong as just simply because it was said by authorities.

Society can be run by men if women have no meaningful access to outside information or capability to understand such information. Literacy rates in islamic countries can be as low 1/3 for women, access to other views/systems is limited by the state, and most importantly indoctrination from birth and the social sanctions for not following the indoctrination all highly inhibit a woman's ability to even comprehend a different way, let alone seeking one out.

They're all individuals but also victims of circumstance, and many won't even understand that there is another way, and many more will refrain from seeking it out due to social sanctions that fall upon such women from honor killings to imprisonment.

Both Aisha and Khadija.

Everything else you said is absolutely correct.

 

[Steamdevolopment]

Both Aisha and Khadija.

Everything else you said is absolutely correct.

Khadija clearly.

Aisha I'm less certain of, and it depends on wether the age is 9 or older, a 9 year old simply cannot consent to marriage.
Even if she was older it could also be argued that surrounding patriarchal arab society would have been coercive influence on wether she would say agree to such a marry with the Prophet himself and her fathers insistence.

Muhammad's concubines clearly could not consent, and it therefore must be regarded as rape under most current understanding.

 

[Zach]

Best places to be a woman:
1: Denmark (obiviously)
2: Feminist Sweden
3: Smelly Norway
4: Netherlands
5: Finalnd
6: Canada
7: Switzerland
8: Australia
9: New Zealand
10: Germany
11: Luxemborg
12: Austria
13: UK
14: France
15: Ireland (abort banning)
16: US
17: Japan
18: Spain
19: Italy
20: Portugal
21: Polen
22: Singapore
23 Czech republic
24: Hungary
25: China
26: Greece
27: South Korea

Even socialist China beat us, and they have forced abortions!


Worst countries:
80: Pakistan
79: Iran
78: Egybt
76: Nigeria
75: Algeria
74: Jordan
73: Lebanon
72: Tunesia

Now isn't that some truth for your behind, @Knowles, @Reiko, @Geeljire sanbuur, @AussieHustler

Your list is faulty, give me the source.

 

[esmailxxx]

Which woman?

Go find out!!!,thats your home work,so you just criticize something without having knowledge of it,you always attack islam,its clear you were just influenced by cadans and never did your own self searching,you never went and studied islam enough to know why you are against it

to even comprehend a different way, let alone seeking one out.

many won't even understand that there is another way,

You call yourself a feminist but you have low opinions of these women,what makes you think your way is better, these women dont have a mind of their own?,they see the benefits of the situation they are in maybe?

What has a different way done for your beloved cadans?is really as positive as you preach it to be?is being a degenerate with freedom,is breaking a normal social family structure better just to satify some unnatural sick desire

 

[Oranges&Lemons]

@Steamdevolopment

It's interesting that many of those countries are Arab. The problem is more with the people rather than the religion.

So many people see feminism and Islam to be fundamentally incompatible. You say Muslim women are in need of saving and the only way is for them to be liberated from Islam. And then we have these scholars and male figures of authority in the Muslim countries who view feminism with feelings of deep mistrust and bury their head in the sand when it comes to sexism.

Granted there is a long way to go, but you forget the most important people in this – the Muslim women who are fighting for their rights and challenging sexism and the men who support them. Us Muslim women should be able to claim our identities within the parameters of Islam without being disregarded and rendered invisible.

 

[Zach]

Khadija clearly.

Aisha I'm less certain of, and it depends on wether the age is 9 or older, a 9 year old simply cannot consent to marriage.
Even if she was older it could also be argued that surrounding patriarchal arab society would have been coercive influence on wether she would say agree to such a marry with the Prophet himself and her fathers insistence.

Muhammad's concubines clearly could not consent, and it therefore must be regarded as rape under most current understanding.

She wasn’t 9 my professor told as that they did research on it and compared her to her sisters age and found out she actually was 19.

 

[Zach]

Tbh Indonesia had 2 female prime minister and the USA hadn’t even one and when Hilary wanted to be president you saw how Trump and basically all republicans took her down for being a woman.

 

[Zach]

The first university was opened by a Muslim woman in a Muslim country.

 

[Steamdevolopment]

She wasn’t 9 my professor told as that they did research on it and compared her to her sisters age and found out she actually was 19.

You very conveniently left out the concubine part, eh?:siilaanyosmile:

The list can be found here:
https://www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/women-full-list

The results match other lists including, where the Nordic countries perform well and middle-east/North Africa perform poorly.
https://giwps.georgetown.edu/the-index/
https://www.atlasandboots.com/worlds-best-countries-for-women-ranked/
https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2017/11/these-are-the-world-s-most-gender-equal-countries/

 

[Steamdevolopment]

The first university was opened by a Muslim woman in a Muslim country.

Yeah, and Pakistan had a female leader before the US, but does that make Pakistan a better country to be in 2018?
No, it ranks very very low even for an Islamic country, also she was killed

 

[Zach]

You very conveniently left out the concubine part, eh?:siilaanyosmile:

The list can be found here:
https://www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/women-full-list

The results match other lists including, where the Nordic countries perform well and middle-east/North Africa perform poorly.
https://giwps.georgetown.edu/the-index/
https://www.atlasandboots.com/worlds-best-countries-for-women-ranked/
https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2017/11/these-are-the-world-s-most-gender-equal-countries/

HE had one and she was send by a Christian King.

 

[esmailxxx]

Aisha I'm less certain of, and it depends on wether the age is 9 or older, a 9 year old simply cannot consent to marriage.
Even if she was older it could also be argued that surrounding patriarchal arab society would have been coercive influence on wether she would say agree to such a marry with the Prophet himself and her fathers insistence.

9 years she was promised to him,they married when she was older,you criticize something you have no knowledge of you are sheep blubbering the same mainstream bullshit without a real opinion yourself,you are a weak minded individual influenced by cadans

Muhammad's concubines clearly could not consent, and it therefore must be regarded as rape under most current understanding.

Which one of his WIVES did not consent?how did you come to this opinion?who are his wives?what situation forced him to have extra?
Rape?!!! why?because the father of aisha gave his daughters hand to the most revered person in their time and society,and aisha was some idiot she couldnt have accepted it on her own,but you are smart enough to just label it as rape

You are full of shit nayah

 

[Zach]

Yeah, and Pakistan had a female leader before the US, but does that make Pakistan a better country to be in 2018?
No, it ranks very very low even for an Islamic country, also she was killed

JFK and Lincoln where killed to so it’s not save for men in the US? Bs

 

[Steamdevolopment]

HE had one and she was send by a Christian King.

One is one too many, imagine if that was your sister given to a foreign man as a slave.
Also records point to there being many more than her


If you can't even get sex slavery right, what else can't you get right? Yaaab