Where does the “cheap and clean” myth come from?

[Heavy Mountains]

@Angelina You're arguing with a stubborn individual who holds a grudge against Somali women.

 

[Abdalla]

THE WHITE QUEENS SNOWED ON US WHEN IT WAS NOTHING BUT RAIN AND OVERCAST .

all my brothers are married to revert Becky's and they all smell like Starbucks and cinnamon pumpkin spice and wear the hijab .


MY GOD

They showered on us during the worst drought thatcher hit us. All we needed was love and affection.

 

[TekNiKo]

They showered on us during the worst drought thatcher hit us. All we needed was love and affection.

Abdi wu ciilbaxay no more insults from qaylo and suugo stained baatis

 

[Odious Delirium]

You’re a 23 yr old from outside of London. You don’t know what you’re talking about and are going off on the garbage hearsay of some Somali men. I remember the 2008-2012 when the Salafi wave took over London particularly Lewisham and Brixton. It’s absolutely slanderous for Somali men to say that only Somali women were the victims.

Somali men most definitely coined it. What other ethnic group or people feel comfortable calling Somali women cheap? Was it reverts? The Imaams themselves? Prey tell?

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I made a follow up comment basically making all those points in a reply to Kane but I deleted it with the exception of who coined this term. I'm just going off what I was told. I have relatives who live in London and I was told that term was coined by ajnabis imams.

Now do you actually know for certain who of the two coined it or is that just your assumption?

 

[Odious Delirium]

I never said they were innocent. I know what happened around 2008-2013 when those brainwashed Salafis were marrying reverts. I just find it interesting that Idiots that were born in 2000 are writing essays about things they don’t know.

Also, you’re all massive self-haters who like to dunk on Somali women. Arab and Pakistani women were also marrying these reverts, I know, I saw it and know and seen them. Yet, you want to create the narrative it was just Somali women.

I wasn't born in 2000

Just @ me if your gonna call me an idiot

 

[Yusuf Abdi Ali Rashid]

THE WHITE QUEENS SNOWED ON US WHEN IT WAS NOTHING BUT RAIN AND OVERCAST .

all my brothers are married to revert Becky's and they all smell like Starbucks and cinnamon pumpkin spice and wear the hijab .


MY GOD

Facts, somali girls avoided me because of my “smell”, while cadaan queens praised me for my primordial stench.

 

[Somaliwadani123]

It's funny how all the girls are down voting my previous comment......when I just stated what I SEEN growing up.....

Yall just making me look more right with ur emotional reactions

 

[Ragnimo]

Paki and arab women if they marry out do it upwards your bugging out if u think they the ones marrying revert convict or the anxious ginger guy in the west. There are way more arabs afghans pakis in turkey but they not the ones marrying the old turkish men.

Pree how u avoid my statement regarding the disrespect of marrocan women by ajnabi men this is no different what ever reputation u make for urself is yours. When has somebody ever mentioned Yemeni women? they aint even on socialmedia the haya of yemeni women manshallah.

My women are in my family they the ones i have an obligation too. I can call Somali women out just like ajnabi women if that makes u salty then so be it. Why would i care if u call out gangbangers? Might be the only Somali in here who can say not a single one in my immediate family involved in the streets alhamdulilah.

Normally I don't like this topic (I don't really care about xalimos with ajnabis who are not from our enemy groups) but the pathological lier Angelina is triggering me I can't believe her and some other xalimos are trying to compare Pakis who are 5 million strong and ayrabs who are around 1.2 million in the UK to Somalis who are only 200k lol of course Somali females do it waay more per capita. Lol OTO the delusion and low IQ of these xalimos is astonishing.

 

[A Mean Guy]

I wasn't born in 2000

Just @ me if your gonna call me an idiot

@Angelina is so weird. She will defend Somali women at all costs. It's always the guys fault for everything that happens to the women. smh.
She does not like it when people dismiss her but she is doing the same to you by the "you don't live in London" phrase.
I live in London and Brixton was famous for linking ex cons with Somali women. The reason why most were Somali women were because we don't kill out women if they marry out (maybe the parents disowned them but never killed).
Moreover, there was this was not exclusive to the UK, there was a video of a girl in Canada calling out a sheikh (bashir? or saiid?) that always try to match poor xalimos looking to marry with ex-criminals that reverted in prison. It's not the "garbage hearsay from men" if it from one of your fellow Somali sisters.
Lastly, Somali men were in the dark ages in the 2000s and early 2010s (drugs, crime, e.t.c,) so I can understand marrying out then but to marry downwards is weird behaviour. And yet they always say that Somali women put extra conditions in marriage with ajanabi?

 

[Khaemwaset]

Why do people here think "cheap and clean" was coined by a somali guy
This is used by all incels, you even see Chinese girls who marry foreigners get called cheap and clean by Chinese niggas online if you translate the comments. Do you think incels in China are using the terminology that a farax made? Somalis don't have that much of a impact on the world culture, let alone the incels which are a tiny amount of our community.
It's literally impossible to be an incel somali man unless you are clapped beyond measure. If you cannot Marry someone here, a plane ticket back home and you will find a noble xalimo who wants to settle down with you in no time. Obviously there are some Xalimos there who will try cheat you, but somalia is a country of 18 million, you simply need to not be tapped in the head and look into the backgrounds of the women you want to marry to see who will be the best suited for you.

Nothing else matters.

 

[Angelina]

@Angelina is so weird. She will defend Somali women at all costs. It's always the guys fault for everything that happens to the women. smh.

Aww, here comes another one. I’m defending them from the slander that it was only Somali women marrying reverts in the 2010s. It’s the lying and the self-hatred I can’t stand. So don’t lie about me. Show me where in which I think it’s acceptable to marry an ex-bum? Have a bit of pride instead of creating the impression it’s just Somali women.

She does not like it when people dismiss her but she is doing the same to you by the "you don't live in London" phrase.
I live in London and Brixton was famous for linking ex cons with Somali women. The reason why most were Somali women were because we don't kill out women if they marry out (maybe the parents disowned them but never killed).

Lies, are you telling me Arab and Asian girls never married these reverts? Because I know of cases and even know ones that are married to ones and have mixed kids. The reason why you’re emphasizing Somali women as we are your community.

Moreover, there was this was not exclusive to the UK, there was a video of a girl in Canada calling out a sheikh (bashir? or saiid?) that always try to match poor xalimos looking to marry with ex-criminals that reverted in prison. It's not the "garbage hearsay from men" if it from one of your fellow Somali sisters.

He is going to say that as you self-haters love to exaggerate and act like it’s only Somali
Women marrying out or marrying reverts. People for the most part are more concerned about their communities.

Lastly, Somali men were in the dark ages in the 2000s and early 2010s (drugs, crime, e.t.c,) so I can understand marrying out then but to marry downwards is weird behaviour. And yet they always say that Somali women put extra conditions in marriage with ajanabi?

So you’re telling me most Somali girls that married out married ex convict bums? The self hatred is real and I never thought you’d engage in this nonsense.

 

[Rorschach]

Cheap and clean goes back to the 90s lol but about your point, I have a bit more to add since I’ve seen it.

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We Somalis are narcissistic group who only care and look at our own community. The only stories that will stand out are the stories that Impact the men and women of our communities. What’s happened is that Abdis have heard those stories and have decided to lie and act like Somali girls were the only ones in those situations. Anyone that has actually been around the madness and seen and spoke to those brainwashed Salafi girls will tell you this was across ethnic lines.

First time I heard it was in 2006 - didn’t know it started in the 90s.

Anyways, the marriages did cross many ethnic lines but people tend to focus on their own community. I think it’s the frequency in such a relatively short period of time that shocked the Somali’s rather than the numbers in comparison to other ethnic groups.

It might have been balanced, but hearing 3 or more ajanabi marriages in a year was unheard of before that point.

 

[A Mean Guy]

Aww, here comes another one. I’m defending them from the slander that it was only Somali women marrying reverts in the 2010s. It’s the lying and the self-hatred I can’t stand. So don’t lie about me. Show me where in which I think it’s acceptable to marry an ex-bum? Have a bit of pride instead of creating the impression it’s just Somali women.

It is admirable that you defend them. I also aid you in defending Somali women from incels and I never said it was just Somali women. I was accusing you of dismissing points made by @Javelin . I never said you think it is acceptable to marry ex-bums, you made that very clear in your posts.

Lies, are you telling me Arab and Asian girls never married these reverts? Because I know of cases and even know ones that are married to ones and have mixed kids. The reason why you’re emphasizing Somali women as we are your community.

ffs I don't care about south asians and arabs. I never even mentioned them in my thread. Like you said I am only concerned about MY community. Why do you keep repeating the same point
Somalis are not as racist as other people hence why some sheikhs tried that.

So you’re telling me most Somali girls that married out married ex convict bums? The self hatred is real and I never thought you’d engage in this nonsense.

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My points

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I.A this is the First and Last Gender-war thread that I participate in.

 

[Odious Delirium]

It is admirable that you defend them. I also aid you in defending Somali women from incels and I never said it was just Somali women. I was accusing you of dismissing points made by @Javelin . I never said you think it is acceptable to marry ex-bums, you made that very clear in your posts.

ffs I don't care about south asians and arabs. I never even mentioned them in my thread. Like you said I am only concerned about MY community. Why do you keep repeating the same point
Somalis are not as racist as other people hence why some sheikhs tried that.

Subhannallah. There you go again. I never said that.
"Self-hatred" became your new word today.
Most Somali women who marry out, get married to well-established guys but there is a larger percentage of Somali women who marry out that marry bums than men. When was the last time you saw a farax with a criminal becky or sheniqua. Go on youtube and watch Kaypassion divorce story.
You keep trying to put words in people's mouth so that they slip up and actually say it.

My points
I don't hate Somali women -> I love them and will 100% marry one in the future. I am honestly disappointed that you feel that way about me when I have defended them in other threads. STOP WITH THE ACCUSATIONS lol.

The social media posts about Somali women marry convicts exaggerated the experiences of some Somali women to represent the whole population.
I think we sometimes forget how impressionable or easily influenced teenagers are. The Somali guys think the girls are wh*res while the girls think the guys are incels that hate them.

Anyways, who people choose to marry is not any of our business. So let's not argue anymore please.

I was gonna be really petty with my next response but this is @Angelina we are talking about so I'll allow it.
she's gets overly dramatic and moves the goal post a lot. Everyone already know that the muslim communities has a huge revert fetish and this whole thread was about why the term cheap and clean came about. That has absolutely nothing to do with what other ajnabis are getting up to they are irrelevant in this discussion.

What I said wasn't an attack on somali women but she has her biases and will crusade if any thing is said that puts somali women in even a slightly negative light.

 

[Khaemwaset]

I was gonna be really petty with my next response but this is @Angelina we are talking about so I'll allow it.
she's gets overly dramatic and moves the goal post a lot. Everyone already know that the muslim communities has a huge revert fetish and this whole thread was about why the term cheap and clean came about. That has absolutely nothing to do with what other ajnabis are getting up to they are irrelevant in this discussion.

What I said wasn't an attack on somali women but she has her biases and will crusade if any thing is said that puts somali women in even a slightly negative light.

@Angelina is the XalimoCrusader, you can't win an argument with a jihadist who's gonna blow everyone up just like you can't win against Angelina who will spend 50 hours a day blowing up this thread for the xalimo cause

 

[Angelina]

It is admirable that you defend them. I also aid you in defending Somali women from incels and I never said it was just Somali women. I was accusing you of dismissing points made by @Javelin . I never said you think it is acceptable to marry ex-bums, you made that very clear in your posts.

ffs I don't care about south asians and arabs. I never even mentioned them in my thread. Like you said I am only concerned about MY community. Why do you keep repeating the same point
Somalis are not as racist as other people hence why some sheikhs tried that.

Somalis are racist, some of those girls got disowned or the ones that weren’t had families that were livid and turned their backs on them. The thing is, the Asian girls that did that as well were also disowned. That didn’t stop those girls from doing that.

Subhannallah. There you go again. I never said that.
"Self-hatred" became your new word today.
Most Somali women who marry out, get married to well-established guys but there is a larger percentage of Somali women who marry out that marry bums than men. When was the last time you saw a farax with a criminal becky or sheniqua. Go on youtube and watch Kaypassion divorce story.

Farax’s get them pregnant and then the kids are on TikTok asking their followers if they know their father by posting an old picture. The fact that you’re using YouTube as some sort of reference. Why would a man make a story time about a bad marriage? Men and women aren’t the same. When men have bad experiences, they tend to dip and then move on.

My points
I don't hate Somali women -> I love them and will 100% marry one in the future. I am honestly disappointed that you feel that way about me when I have defended them in other threads. STOP WITH THE ACCUSATIONS lol.

I do, because you came in attack mode when my whole intentions was to illustrate that:

A: Somali women weren’t the only victims of the Salafi marriage horror stories.

B. Somali women don’t even marry out as much as other communities, same with Faraxs.

C. Cheap and clean isn’t used by other groups. In this day and age it’s young Faraxs leaving it on the TikTok’s of random Xalimos married to an ajnabi husband.

D. Most Somali girls married to foreign men aren’t even mostly married to madows, but
For some reason posters here have an obsession with black men. If you look at the last 5 years or so with these ajnabi marriages, most the men have been white and Arab.

The social media posts about Somali women marry convicts exaggerated the experiences of some Somali women to represent the whole population.
I think we sometimes forget how impressionable or easily influenced teenagers are. The Somali guys think the girls are wh*res while the girls think the guys are incels that hate them.

Well then if you know this to be true, why attack me? When all I was saying is that hey,

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[Angelina]

I was gonna be really petty with my next response but this is @Angelina we are talking about so I'll allow it.
she's gets overly dramatic and moves the goal post a lot. Everyone already know that the muslim communities has a huge revert fetish and this whole thread was about why the term cheap and clean came about. That has absolutely nothing to do with what other ajnabis are getting up to they are irrelevant in this discussion.

What I said wasn't an attack on somali women but she has her biases and will crusade if any thing is said that puts somali women in even a slightly negative light.

Lol, Jav don’t be offended by my debates. Yes I can be a tad dramatic, but I have no issues with you.

 

[Odious Delirium]

Lol, Jav don’t be offended by my debates. Yes I can be a tad dramatic, but I have no issues with you.

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[Abdisamad]

It came from the UK, where I as understood at one point at some salafi mosques it was a standard procedure for convert to get a Somali wife, also they had women lined up on mosque lists looking to marry reverts.. As a side note some Somali women tend to be a bit cheap but that's a minority who lack self esteem.

 

[Angelina]

It came from the UK, where I as understood at one point at some salafi mosques it was a standard procedure for convert to get a Somali wife, also they had women lined up on mosque lists looking to marry reverts.. As a side note some Somali women tend to be a bit cheap but that's a minority who lack self esteem.

Alhamdulliah that shit hardly happens anymore. It was bleak times. The abuse stories I used to hear were wild and I mean wild.