Ukraine’s Nazi Problem.

Omar del Sur

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So you expect Russia just watch as Ukraine joins too? So a nuke can be pointed straight to Moscow in 5 mins? This is just as ludicrous as any nation and shows whose provoking who. I dont see Russia situating launchpads in Cuba or Guatamela.

yes, it was sheer hypocrisy on the US part.... anyone with a basic knowledge of Cold War history knows about how the US reacted to the Cuban Missile Crisis... but then Russia is supposed to just sit back and accept the same being done to them??
 

Omar del Sur

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Let me ask you a question please. Without some sort of 'World Police' in this World, however imperfect, how will the world be like?

Not if the world police are kuffar. If there are no world police and there is a multipolar world, Muslims as an ummah will be in a much stronger position.
 

Periplus

Min Al-Nahr ila Al-Ba7r
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Furthermore, you’re full of shit Teknigis (aka @TekNiKo)

You know damn well that Ukraine cannot join NATO as long as Russia has Crimea as it’s an existing border dispute.

Ukraine was never joining NATO but the narrative you want to push is that Ukraine was one signature away from joining.

The intellectual (or lack of) dishonesty is ludicrous.
 

Periplus

Min Al-Nahr ila Al-Ba7r
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yes, it was sheer hypocrisy on the US part.... anyone with a basic knowledge of Cold War history knows about how the US reacted to the Cuban Missile Crisis... but then Russia is supposed to just sit back and accept the same being done to them??

Russia still (reportedly) has a base in Cuba.

Do you see the US invading them?
 
You think Somalis can be conquered if left alone? kkkk You have no confidence in your people Xabashis were smashed so hard in 07 wars in Xamar alone forget about all other Somalis
Ethiopia remained after 07, they were never really kicked out bro, Gabre was chilling in Villa Somalia until a few years ago. They Won! Some Somalis also sided with them as you very well know. We have a lot of hate for each other, even during the time of Saayidka, many Somalis in K5 sought Ethiopian support. As a disparate ethnic group, it will not be hard for a better equipped and united Ethiopian State to annex part of our territory, much like how Kenya is in part of Somalia. I bet you if a clan has its back against a wall, it will choose annexation over dominance by another clan, such is the lot of Somalis.
 

Omar del Sur

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You didn't get my question bro. Before the current international order, it was a free for all.

It was before the current international order that Spain was known as Al-Andalus and Muslims were a big international power feared by the world. Al-Andalus represents the kind of things that can be achieved once the kuffar are out of the way. And if there is no big kaffir world police, the kuffar are in a much weaker position to prevent things like Al-Andalus and to prevent Muslims from establishing the sharia and becoming powerful.
 
Not if the world police are kuffar. If there are no world police and there is a multipolar world, Muslims as an ummah will be in a much stronger position.
We have had this debate before, not all Muslims, you think the Uighurs will be freed? You will just have several Mastas to choose from.
 

Omar del Sur

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We have had this debate before, not all Muslims, you think the Uighurs will be freed? You will just have several Mastas to choose from.

That is not true. The Mughals and Al-Andalus didn't have any "mastas". And sure, not all Muslims will be in a great position but the Muslim ummah as a whole will be much better off.
 

TekNiKo

Loyal To The One True Caliph (Hafidahullah)
What do you mean watch??

Ukraine could’ve joined in the 1990s and there was nothing Russia could do about it.

But they were too nice to Russia and even gave up nuclear weapons for them just to be stabbed in the back.
They gave up those weapons because those are Soviet Russian weapons not Ukraines, they were operated by Soviet engineers. Ukraine was under the kremlin for a better part of century. Putin is only 'resetting' history, and re-establishing his perceived motherland.
 
well... umm... actually, I think this is a positive. there are some lines on the map I want to see changed. and it's a positive if people want the liberation of the Ogaden. I can understand why the Kenyan president wanted to preserve current borders, though.
In our current state, there is a higher chance of Kenya annexing Jubbaland and Ethiopia annexing coastal territory if the status quo changed.
 

Juke

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Go tell that to Imam Bukharis country, in which Russian puppets enforce state atheism on their population.

In fact go to the numerous Muslim countries in Central Asia and tell them how Russia doesn’t force any irreligious on them.

What a joke.
Russians disposed of their own Orthodox deen as well, Marxism is anti-religion not only Islam. And Uzebkistan is a funny country, cause it's a little of both what we're criticizing China and Ukraine of doing to their ethnic minorities. The predominantly Tajik cities of Bukhara and Samarkand are being forced to shift to Uzbek-language (and ethnic identity). They're also conducting another soft genocide on the more nomadic Karakalpak minority to the west of the country, by sterilizing the women, like China is doing to the Uyhurs.
 

Omar del Sur

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We have had this debate before, not all Muslims, you think the Uighurs will be freed? You will just have several Mastas to choose from.

I don't even understand why you keep using this word "mastas". That word is very foreign to me. Look at Cuba and Venezuela. They do what they want. They don't have "mastas". They have relationships of mutual respect with their partners.
 
Yes but I find Soviet imperialism worse.

I will always call out imperialism but Russia’s Soviet imperialism is the worst for me.

Sxb, you're talking about SLAVS here, they have gone through untold bloodshed and trauma under the Ottomans and their vassals, like I said we have to account for history here.

The closest Western Europe got to Islamic domination was Madrid, I don't ever recall London, Paris or Rome having mosques built, Eastern Europeans fared far worse than their Western counterparts.
 

TekNiKo

Loyal To The One True Caliph (Hafidahullah)
yes, it was sheer hypocrisy on the US part.... anyone with a basic knowledge of Cold War history knows about how the US reacted to the Cuban Missile Crisis... but then Russia is supposed to just sit back and accept the same being done to them??
NATO have included the Baltic states and Poland. NATO was preparing to create a naval base in Crimea, but Russia have prevented that. NATO supports Georgia and Ukraine, and regularly wages the military maneuvers there.

Asking why Russia is “surrounding” the NATO bases is the same as if Hitler would ask why his enemies were “surrounding” Germany. Great joke! NATO was expanding for all the latest time, so it’s the aggressor here, not Russia'

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Periplus

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Russians disposed of their own Orthodox deen as well, Marxism is anti-religion not only Islam. And Uzebkistan is a funny country, cause it's a little of both what we're criticizing China and Ukraine of doing to their ethnic minorities. The predominantly Tajik cities of Bukhara and Samarkand are being forced to shift to Uzbek-language (and ethnic identity). They're also conducting another soft genocide on the more nomadic Karakalpak minority to the west of the country, by sterilizing the women, like China is doing to the Uyhurs.

I just find it funny people who criticise US imperialism are bootyclapping for Russia.
 
That is not true. The Mughals and Al-Andalus didn't have any "mastas". And sure, not all Muslims will be in a great position but the Muslim ummah as a whole will be much better off.
To hell with those sacrificial lambs, isn't it?
I don't even understand why you keep using this word "mastas". That word is very foreign to me. Look at Cuba and Venezuela. They do what they want. They don't have "mastas". They have relationships of mutual respect with their partners.
Cubans do not have brothers that are kept in concentration camps, and will not be giving the Red Carpet treatment to those that oppress their brethren.

What an effin stupid analogy.
 

Periplus

Min Al-Nahr ila Al-Ba7r
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Sxb, you're talking about SLAVS here, they have gone through untold bloodshed and trauma under the Ottomans and their vassals, like I said we have to account for history here.

The closest Western Europe got to Islamic domination was Madrid, I don't ever recall London, Paris or Rome having mosques built, Eastern Europeans fared far worse than their Western counterparts.

Doesn’t change the fact that Russia is a colonising power that erases the religion and culture of everywhere it colonises.

Look at Central Asia, the deen is finished out there purely because of Russia.
 

Periplus

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They gave up those weapons because those are Soviet Russian weapons not Ukraines, they were operated by Soviet engineers. Ukraine was under the kremlin for a better part of century. Putin is only 'resetting' history, and re-establishing his perceived motherland.

Soviet Union ceased to exist. Ukraine had as much right to keep them as Russia has to keep its weapons.

Putin resetting history is colonising half of Europe. If you’re anti-imperialism, you should be against it.
 

Omar del Sur

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To hell with those sacrificial lambs, isn't it?

And the Palestinians? Afghans? Kashmiris? And every Muslim country in the world, all of which are threatened by the US?

The lesser of two evils is that which is better for the Muslim world as a whole.
 
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Periplus

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NATO have included the Baltic states and Poland. NATO was preparing to create a naval base in Crimea, but Russia have prevented that. NATO supports Georgia and Ukraine, and regularly wages the military maneuvers there.

Asking why Russia is “surrounding” the NATO bases is the same as if Hitler would ask why his enemies were “surrounding” Germany. Great joke! NATO was expanding for all the latest time, so it’s the aggressor here, not Russia'

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