Where does the Quran say the sun orbits the earth?
The Sun orbits the Earth, and the Moon does too.
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It doesn't specify its around the earth
Again no mention of it orbiting the earth
Allah says "for you" addressing the humans, who just HAPPEN TO LIVE ON EARTH.
No mention of sun orbiting earth
Is the Qur'an revealed to Martians? No, human beings. Allah is talking about the Sun orbiting us.
Yes that is use of language. The sun rose and set is from our perspective, it is not making a claim the sun actually rises and sets, even non-muslims use the sun rose and set, its not scientific language.
Its like me asking you do you have the time, im not asking if you own time, im asking if you know the time
Who told you this? Allah didn't specify what it orbits, you cannot force your own interpretation onto it.
who put the fossils there then. Whats the point in making up dinosaurs
Can you not see multiple times that Allah says that it goes around in orbit "for you" obviously meaning us, the earth dwellers.
What's the point in saying we came from apes too, apparently. It's the same thing.
Something you can see with your own eyes though? Oh I forget the secular scientists who work with the FBI CIA and Tom Hanks decided to put the fossils there and claim they are from millions of years ago. My bad.
Im sorry but 1.You are not a scholar of tafseer so you cannot make up your own interpretation I doubt you even understand the arabic text in its pure form let alone make up interpretations of it. The sun could orbit the solar system which eventually benefits us due to its orbit of the solar system, why do you have to force your own interpretation on it
They also decided to claim that we descended from primates. Thank you for your time.
Theres a big difference. Saying we came from apes has got to do with discrediting Gods creation of us.
Dinosaurs are irrelevant to religion, why make it up
Ahh I also forget the secular scientists forgot to tell you that we dont actually come from apes as that is a common misconception but my bad once again.
How can the sun orbit itself? I think you need to make what you said clear.
Question:
In quraan we find that the sun runs and orbits around the earth. But the modern day science says the earth orbits around the sun and the sun is still.Indeed the quranic theory is correct, but what is islams response to the modern day science.
Answer:
Is science a revelation from God or is it just a theory and research of the scientists? Do all scientists say the same things or do they differ? Do the scientists of today agree fully with the previous ones or do they sometimes disagree? Do all of them accept the theory of evolution from Charles Darwin or are there some who think that he was out of his mind? Does every scientist believe in cloning or are there any who don’t?In short, scientific research is not absolute and there are huge differences within that circle. Quran is the undisputed word of Allah. It has been transmitted to us through a chain of narrators who can never collaborate upon wrong. Millions of huffaz still prevail today and will remain until the Day of Qiyaamah – However, differences can appear in the interpretation of the verses.
Since you have asked this question we read in the Quran:
الشَّمْسُ وَالْقَمَرُ بِحُسْبَانٍ | الرحمن:5
وَكُلٌّ فِي فَلَكٍ يَسْبَحُونَ | يس:40
The word ‘sabaahat’ means swimming. So how beautifully did Allah describe their orbit by using the word ‘swimming’.
It is not mentioned in the Quran that the Sun orbits the Earth. However, it is a well known scientific fact that even the Sun is in orbit. This is what is referred to in the Quran. Visit the website: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun
It is stated there that the Sun orbits our galaxy, the Milky Way:
“The Sun orbits the center of the Milky Way at a distance of approximately 24,000-26,000 light years from the galactic north pole, in about 225-250 million years.”
Fraser Cain has also written about this:
“Astronomers have calculated that it takes the Sun 226 million years to completely orbit around the center of the Milky Way.”
Omar del Sur
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well let's bring in a scholar then. here is the fatwa of Sheikh Uthaymeen:
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Question: Does the Sun revolve around the earth?
It is apparent from the Islamic evidences that they confirm that it is the sun which revolves around the earth, and by its revolving the alternation of night and day takes place on the surface of the earth. It is not for us to exceed the apparent meaning of these evidences without some evidence stronger than that, which permits us to explain them differently from their apparent meaning. (Meaning we cant interpret metaphorically)
Among the proofs that the sun revolves around the earth in a manner which causes the alternation of the night and day are the following:
Allah, the Most High says, that when Ibrahim, peace be upon him, disputed with the one who argued with him concerning his Lord:
Verily, Allah bring the sun from the east; then bring it you from the west. Al-Baqarah 2:259
He also tells us that Ibrahim, peace be upon him said:
When he saw the sun rising up, he said: This is my lord. This is greater. But when it set, he said: O my people! I am indeed free from all that you join as partner (in worship with Allah). Al-Anam 6:78
Allah the most High says:
And you might have seen the sun, when it rose, declining to the right from their Cave, and when it set, turning away from them to the left. Al-Kahf 18:17
Allah, the Most High says:
And He it is Who has created the night and the day, and the sun and the moon, each in an orbit floating. Al-Anbiya 21:33
And Allah, the Most High says:
He brings the nigh as a cover over the day, seeking it rapidly. Al-Araf 7:54
Allah the Most high says:
he has created the heavens and the earth with truth. He makes the night to go in the day and makes the day to go in the night. And he has subjected the sun and the moon. Each running (on a fixed course) for an appointed term. Verily, He is the All-Mighty, the OftForgiving. Az-Zumar 39:5
And His Words: "He makes the night to go in the day.
That is it turns around it, as a turban is wrapped around, which proves the revolving of the night and the day around the eary. If it were the earth which revolved around them, He would have said: He cause the earth to revolve around the night and day. And in His Words:
the sun and the moon, each running (on a fixed course).
It is clear from what precedes is that it is a proof that the sun and the moon move in a perceptible orbit, because subjecting something which moves to its movement is more apparent than subjecting something stationary which does not move.
Allah, the Most High says:
By the sun and its brightness. By the moon as it follows it (the sun). Ash-Shams 91:1-2
And the meaning of follows it.
Is that it comes after it and this is a proof of their moving and revolving around the earth, for if it were the earth which revolved around them, the moon would not be following the sun; rather it would sometimes be following it and sometimes it would be followed by it because the sun is higher than it. And deduction from this Verse requires study and reflection.
Allah the most High says: And the sun runs on its fixed course for a term (appointed). That is the decree of the All-Mighty, the All-Knowing. And the moon, We have measured for it mansions (to traverse) till it returns like the old drid curved date statlk. It is not for the sun to overtake the moon, nor does the night outstrip the day. They all float, each in an orbit. Ya-Seen 36:38-40
So, attributing the movement to the sun and describing it as a Decree from the Almighty, Most Wise proves that it is a real movement with a far-reaching Decree, since the consequence of it is the alternation of the night and day and the seasons.
The Measures of the moons mansion (i.e. stations) is a proof that it traverses them, for if it was the earth which revolves, the measuring of the mansions would be for the earths movement around the moon and not for the moons movement around it.
And negating the suns ability to overtake the moon, and the nights ability to outstrip the day are evidence of the rushing movement on the part of the sun and the moon, and the night and the day.
The Prophet (Sallah Allahu Alyhe wa Sallam) said to Abu Tharr, May Allah be please with him, when the sun had just set:
Do you know where it goes?
He said, Allah and His Messenger know best. He said:
Verily, it goes (i.e. travels) and it prostrates beneath the Throne and seeks permission to rise, and permission is granted to it. Then (a time will come when) it will be about to prostrate itself but its prostration will not be accepted, and it will ask permission to go on its course but it will not be permitted, but it will be ordered: Return from whence you came, and so it will rise in the west. [Reported in Al-Bukhari in the Book of the Beginning of Creation, in the Chapter: Description of the Sun and Moon (3199) and by Muslim in the Book of Faith, in the Chapter: Explanation of the Time When Faith Will not be Accepted (150).]
So and it is extremely clear from his words: Return from whence you came that it revolves around the earth and through its revolving the sunrise and sunset occur.
It is clear from the many Ahadith which attribute rising, setting, and declining from its zenith to the sun, that it is the sun which does so and not the earth.
There are most probably other proofs that are not present with me at the moment, but what I have mentioned is a summary of the subject, and it is sufficient for my purpose. And Allah is the granter of success."
Omar del Sur
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who even is this? you think people are supposed to take a fatwa from some anonymous person? that could be written by literally anybody. I posted a fatwa and I very clearly stated it was from Sheikh Uthaymeen. is this from some kind of disreputable source and that is why you don't provide the source?
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