The Sun orbits the Earth, and the Moon does too.

[Taij4an]

ow can the earth be spinning so quicky and so astronomically fast whilst orbiting the sun? Would it not crash into debris? Would not one massive meteor crush it? You guys claim universe is so vast and filled with planets and stars yet somehow the 8 planets in our solar system revolve around the sun in unison without any hiccups for billions of years?

1st claim would it not crash into debris?
There is no debris, if there is it crashes into the earth as you can do research we have documented cases of it happening
2.What has the universe being vast and planets revolving around the sun got to do with the hiccups in the universe?

 

[Sheikh Google]

ur argument is so stupid u have never studied physics in your life

 

[Mr_z3bby]

The second verse, in chapter 39, has a meaning that can make sense of the roundness of the earth. The Arabic word yukawwiru (rolling/wrap) makes sense of something being rolled over a spherical surface; in this case, rolling the night into the day. This choice of word is interesting as the word yukawwiru is linguistically related to the Arabic word for ball. This the view of the 11th century scholar Ibn Hazm.

 

[Mr_z3bby]

The scholastic rejection of the flat Earth thesis, and the championing of the spherical Earth thesis, occurred in the first three generations of Islam; the best people. Some examples include Ibn Khardādhaba (d. 272 A.H.) who stated that the Earth resembles an egg-yolk shape and Ibn Rustah (d. 290 A.H.) who stated that the Earth is spherical like a ball.

 

[Mr_z3bby]

Many other scholars have explicated the above view. 11th century scholar (5th century A.H.) Abu Muhammad Al-Juwayni stated that the Earth is shaped like a watermelon. Abu Hamid Al-Ghazali, who lived in the same century, went so far as to say that anyone who denies that the Earth is spherical has made a mockery of Islam.

 

[lilmoon]

Ibn baz is not the truth.
The truth is the earth rotates around the sun, the sun also has an orbit around the entire solar system.
Unless he can provide definitive proofs that the earth is still I do not believe what he says RA

He is very much the truth but anyways....
The earth does not rotate around the sun, the sun does. In the Qur'an (forget any Sheikh for a moment, as they aren't better then the Words of Allah) Allah clearly states, (21:33) It is He Who created the night and the day, and the sun and the moon. Each of them is floating in its orbit. 35. He also says in Surah Rahman, "The sun and the moon ˹travel˺ with precision." meaning that they are not stationary and that they are moving, around the Earth. And Allah is capable of everything, so are you denying what He said? Because I have to warn you brother, that denying the Speech of Allah is SHIRK.

 

[lilmoon]

I'm just saying for the Earth-orbits-the-sun-people, don't be tricked by what the secular astronomers teach you, because that's not true unless you can back it up with Islamic evidence. Like, I can't even specify is dinosaurs even existed because the evidence of them ever being alive is not in the Qur'an or Sunnah, so I cannot clarify, but Allah knows the Unseen, so there could be something too.

 

[Sheikh Google]

I'm just saying for the Earth-orbits-the-sun-people, don't be tricked by what the secular astronomers teach you, because that's not true unless you can back it up with Islamic evidence. Like, I can't even specify is dinosaurs even existed because the evidence of them ever being alive is not in the Qur'an or Sunnah, so I cannot clarify, but Allah knows the Unseen, so there could be something too.

Ermm fossil records??? Lmao

 

[Mr_z3bby]

He is very much the truth but anyways....
The earth does not rotate around the sun, the sun does. In the Qur'an (forget any Sheikh for a moment, as they aren't better then the Words of Allah) Allah clearly states, (21:33) It is He Who created the night and the day, and the sun and the moon. Each of them is floating in its orbit. 35. He also says in Surah Rahman, "The sun and the moon ˹travel˺ with precision." meaning that they are not stationary and that they are moving, around the Earth. And Allah is capable of everything, so are you denying what He said? Because I have to warn you brother, that denying the Speech of Allah is SHIRK.

But the Ayah doesn't say that the earth rotates around the sun. All it says is "Each of them is floating in its orbit" That all heavenly bodies rotates around its own orbit including sun ,moon and all the planets.

 

[Sheikh Google]

But the Ayah doesn't say that the earth rotates around the sun. All it says is "Each of them is floating in its orbit" That all heavenly bodies rotates around its own orbit including sun ,moon and all the planets.

You cannot reason someone out of something he or she was not reasoned into. Some real thick fundies on SS from time to time. Just laugh at their posts and stick a jab in here and there.

 

[Taij4an]

He is very much the truth but anyways....
The earth does not rotate around the sun, the sun does. In the Qur'an (forget any Sheikh for a moment, as they aren't better then the Words of Allah) Allah clearly states, (21:33) It is He Who created the night and the day, and the sun and the moon. Each of them is floating in its orbit. 35. He also says in Surah Rahman, "The sun and the moon ˹travel˺ with precision." meaning that they are not stationary and that they are moving, around the Earth. And Allah is capable of everything, so are you denying what He said? Because I have to warn you brother, that denying the Speech of Allah is SHIRK.

Where did Allah say the sun revolves around the earth?

 

[lilmoon]

But the Ayah doesn't say that the earth rotates around the sun. All it says is "Each of them is floating in its orbit" That all heavenly bodies rotates around its own orbit including sun ,moon and all the planets.

But if you read the second one SIR, you would see that the Sun and moon do move. Obviously even secular science told us that the moon moves, but the Sun they said was stationary. It isn't Allah says it "travels" and "floats" in an orbit. And each day in a solar year represents the new and unique point that the sun rises and sets on, until it reaches the same place at the beginning of the new solar year.

 

[Taij4an]

I'm just saying for the Earth-orbits-the-sun-people, don't be tricked by what the secular astronomers teach you, because that's not true unless you can back it up with Islamic evidence. Like, I can't even specify is dinosaurs even existed because the evidence of them ever being alive is not in the Qur'an or Sunnah, so I cannot clarify, but Allah knows the Unseen, so there could be something too.

U can't specify if electricity exists because thats just what secular science tells you then and there is no mention of electricity in the Quran or sunnah

 

[Taij4an]

n an orbit.

Orbit of what?
It is not specified

 

[Sheikh Google]

Guys im confused can someone help me. Is secular science code for "I dont get it therefore the whiteman is wrong?"

 

[Taij4an]

Guys im confused can someone help me. Is secular science code for "I dont get it therefore the whiteman is wrong?"

Yes.
They shouldnt even go to school because all of their teachers are secular teaching secular topics.
They shouldnt even use their techonology cos it was using physics made by secular ppl
They shouldnt even speak english bc it is a secular language

 

[Omar del Sur]

I'm just saying for the Earth-orbits-the-sun-people, don't be tricked by what the secular astronomers teach you, because that's not true unless you can back it up with Islamic evidence. Like, I can't even specify is dinosaurs even existed because the evidence of them ever being alive is not in the Qur'an or Sunnah, so I cannot clarify, but Allah knows the Unseen, so there could be something too.

I'm not one hundred percent for sure but I don't think dinosaurs were real. If I recall correctly- no one had ever talked about dinosaurs prior to the 1800's and in fact I don't think they were "discovered" until after Darwinism. I don't think there was any discovery of these alleged fossils until the 1800's and I think the whole dinosaur thing is just Darwinist propaganda.

 

[lilmoon]

Where did Allah say the sun revolves around the earth?

"He has ˹also˺ subjected for you the sun and the moon, both constantly orbiting, and has subjected the day and night for you." Ibrahim 14:33
"The sun travels for its fixed term. That is the design of the Almighty, All-Knowing." Yasin 36:38
"Have they not considered how the shadows of everything Allah has created incline to the right and the left ˹as the sun moves˺, totally submitting to Allah in all humility?" An-Nahl 16:48
"Do you not see that Allah causes the night to merge into the day and the day into the night, and has subjected the sun and the moon, each orbiting for an appointed term, and that Allah is All-Aware of what you do?" Luqman 31:29
"He created the heavens and the earth for a purpose. He wraps the night around the day, and wraps the day around the night. And He has subjected the sun and the moon, each orbiting for an appointed term. He is truly the Almighty, Most Forgiving." Az-Zumar 39:5
"It is Allah Who has raised the heavens without pillars—as you can see—then established Himself on the Throne. He has subjected the sun and the moon, each orbiting for an appointed term. He conducts the whole affair. He makes the signs clear so that you may be certain of the meeting with your Lord." ar-Ra'd 13-2
"He is the One Who made the sun a radiant source and the moon a reflected light, with precisely ordained phases, so that you may know the number of years and calculation ˹of time˺. Allah did not create all this except for a purpose. He makes the signs clear for people of knowledge." Yunus 10:5
"He merges the night into the day and the day into the night, and has subjected the sun and the moon, each orbiting for an appointed term. That is Allah—your Lord! All authority belongs to Him. But those ˹idols˺ you invoke besides Him do not possess even the skin of a date stone." Fatir 35:13
"And you would have seen the sun, as it rose, inclining away from their cave to the right, and as it set, declining away from them to the left, while they lay in its open space. That is one of the signs of Allah. Whoever Allah guides is truly guided. But whoever He leaves to stray, you will never find for them a guiding mentor." Al-Kahf 18:17
THERE YOU GO. I REST MY CASE.

 

[lilmoon]

I don't understand where you got this conclusion from?

THE QUR'AN, SIR.

 

[lilmoon]

Ermm fossil records??? Lmao

So apparently fossil records= God's speech....