GENETICS Somalis' Specific Mtdna clades

[BetterDaysAhead]

I came out as haplogroup N (Mtdna) very rare apparently, and very Israeli!

You might be an israelite

 

[Arabsiyawi]

I came out as haplogroup N (Mtdna) very rare apparently, and very Israeli!

It’s not rare at all. It’s common among horners, and significant throughout the Middle East

What can you guys tell me about this?

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Well it’s very very common for East Africans to share Mtdna with Yemenis apparently. I’ve read somewhere that there was a migration from the Arabian peninsula to the Horn around the Ice Age. Could explain why there’s so much Yemenis and other Arabs branching close to all our non African lineages. But the same is true for our African lineages, meaning we have also had a significant impact on them.

 

[Prince Abubu]

It’s not rare at all. It’s common among horners, and significant throughout the Middle East


Well it’s very very common for East Africans to share Mtdna with Yemenis apparently. I’ve read somewhere that there was a migration from the Arabian peninsula to the Horn around the Ice Age. Could explain why there’s so much Yemenis and other Arabs branching close to all our non African lineages. But the same is true for our African lineages, meaning we have also had a significant impact on them.

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[Arabsiyawi]

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a good chunk of us are I guess

 

[Apollo]

MTree

www.yfull.com

Browse through this to spot Horn-specific lineages. Even among those Ns and Rs if you go deep enough, it starts becoming Horn or East African specific.

 

[Pioneer]

@Prince Abubu, how much did you pay for the test?

I want get the test after Rona. inshaAllaah

I know 23&Me is the best for Somalis.

Do I get both Haplogroup results. (Both Y and mtdna)

Yes

thanks bro.

 

[Prince Abubu]

@Prince Abubu, how much did you pay for the test?

I want get the test after Rona. inshaAllaah

It depends when you buy it. Try to buy during holidays, they usually have discounts and sales. Yes, the 23andMe is the best commercial DNA test. They let you know what your y-dna/MtDNA haplogroup is as well.

 

[Nabiil]

How didn’t I see this thread. 23andMe only says L3h for me but this tool narrowed it down to L3h2

 

[Im_✨]

Basically all Northeast African mtdna and ydna is dominated or heavily represented by Arabians and other Eurasians right now.

R0a2g and R0a2b and Hv1b1 are basically Cushitic and Northeast African lineages.

Alot of Somali N lineages are unresolved and some are very basal.

The Takrori shelter N* Saharan Neolithic mtdna and U6 and M1 in paleolithic North african IBM indicates a paleolithic and Neolithic diversity of very divergent Eurasian mtdna in Northeast Africa.

Only higher resolution K1a Somalis are K1a12a, which doesnt have as broad a representation in the Horn. It could be Semitic or late West Asian ancestry.

I'm pretty sure we will see Abgaal and Murusade with B4a1a1 soon hhhhh

im abgaal and im pretty sure i dont have B4a1a1

 

[giire12]

Hi y'all.

Is it possible for all the somalis that have done 23andme tests to post their 23andme assigned Mtdna results as well as processing their raw data into https://dna.jameslick.com/mthap/ (which does not even take 4m) to see what their sub-clades might be.
I am particularly interested in the R0a somalis.

(You can try to find your clade on https://www.yfull.com/mtree/, which is cool)

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I got best matched as R0a2l


Best mtDNA Haplogroup Matches:

1) R0a2l

Defining Markers for haplogroup R0a2l:
HVR2: (58C) 60.1T 64T 263G
CR: 750G 1438G 2179G 2355G 2442C 2706G 3847C 4769G 7028T 7471- 8860G 13188T 14392T 14766T 15326G 15674C
HVR1: 16126C 16362C

Marker path from rCRS to haplogroup R0a2l (plus extra markers):
H2a2a1(rCRS) ⇨ 263G ⇨ H2a2a ⇨ 8860G 15326G ⇨ H2a2 ⇨ 750G ⇨ H2a ⇨ 4769G ⇨ H2 ⇨ 1438G ⇨ H ⇨ 2706G 7028T ⇨ HV ⇨ 14766T ⇨ R0 ⇨ (58C) 64T 2442C 16362C ⇨ R0a'b ⇨ 3847C 13188T 16126C ⇨ R0a ⇨ 60.1T ⇨ R0a(60.1T) ⇨ 15674C ⇨ R0a2'3 ⇨ 2355G ⇨ R0a2 ⇨ 2179G 7471- 14392T ⇨ R0a2l ⇨ 61T 65I 191D 299I 459D 2074I 2156D 2405D 3307D 4317I 5537D 5752D 8281D 8286D 14482T

Imperfect Match. Your results contained differences with this haplogroup:
Matches(9): 1438G 2355G 2706G 7028T 8860G 13188T 15674C 16126C 16362C
Mismatches(0): (58T)
Flips(1): 7471D
Extras(15): 61T 65I 191D 299I 459D 2074I 2156D 2405D 3307D 4317I 5537D 5752D 8281D 8286D 14482T
No-Calls(4): 64T 263G 2442C 3847C
Untested(7): 60.1 750 2179 4769 14392 14766 15326

 

[Boogie]

Wtf why are there Persians and arabs everywhere where is the african

 

[Boogie]

@Alexis why are u Persian explain now plz

We wuz Persian

 

[Boogie]

I knew there were south Indian migrants go back to India only E and J Somalis should be allowed

 

[Boogie]

Actually if u are J u might have to go back to Saudi Arabia it depends

 

[giire12]

I knew there were south Indian migrants go back to India only E and J Somalis should be allowed

There is difference between Y-haplogroups and mtdna-haplogroups. I think you are confusing between the both, there is no E in mtdna as of yet ! mtDNA traces back your ancestral female root that is mother to grandmother to great grandmother....

 

[Aurelian]

Basically all Northeast African mtdna and ydna is dominated or heavily represented by Arabians and other Eurasians right now.

R0a2g and R0a2b and Hv1b1 are basically Cushitic and Northeast African lineages.

Alot of Somali N lineages are unresolved and some are very basal.

The Takrori shelter N* Saharan Neolithic mtdna and U6 and M1 in paleolithic North african IBM indicates a paleolithic and Neolithic diversity of very divergent Eurasian mtdna in Northeast Africa.

Only higher resolution K1a Somalis are K1a12a, which doesnt have as broad a representation in the Horn. It could be Semitic or late West Asian ancestry.

I'm pretty sure we will see Abgaal and Murusade with B4a1a1 soon hhhhh

Wallahi I can't engage in fkd conversation with problack/panafricanist/hotep about cushitic look being normal black look knowing this.

 

[Arabsiyawi]

I got best matched as R0a2l


Best mtDNA Haplogroup Matches:

1) R0a2l

Defining Markers for haplogroup R0a2l:
HVR2: (58C) 60.1T 64T 263G
CR: 750G 1438G 2179G 2355G 2442C 2706G 3847C 4769G 7028T 7471- 8860G 13188T 14392T 14766T 15326G 15674C
HVR1: 16126C 16362C

Marker path from rCRS to haplogroup R0a2l (plus extra markers):
H2a2a1(rCRS) ⇨ 263G ⇨ H2a2a ⇨ 8860G 15326G ⇨ H2a2 ⇨ 750G ⇨ H2a ⇨ 4769G ⇨ H2 ⇨ 1438G ⇨ H ⇨ 2706G 7028T ⇨ HV ⇨ 14766T ⇨ R0 ⇨ (58C) 64T 2442C 16362C ⇨ R0a'b ⇨ 3847C 13188T 16126C ⇨ R0a ⇨ 60.1T ⇨ R0a(60.1T) ⇨ 15674C ⇨ R0a2'3 ⇨ 2355G ⇨ R0a2 ⇨ 2179G 7471- 14392T ⇨ R0a2l ⇨ 61T 65I 191D 299I 459D 2074I 2156D 2405D 3307D 4317I 5537D 5752D 8281D 8286D 14482T

Imperfect Match. Your results contained differences with this haplogroup:
Matches(9): 1438G 2355G 2706G 7028T 8860G 13188T 15674C 16126C 16362C
Mismatches(0): (58T)
Flips(1): 7471D
Extras(15): 61T 65I 191D 299I 459D 2074I 2156D 2405D 3307D 4317I 5537D 5752D 8281D 8286D 14482T
No-Calls(4): 64T 263G 2442C 3847C
Untested(7): 60.1 750 2179 4769 14392 14766 15326

Where are you from in Somalia sxb

 

[giire12]

Where are you from in Somalia sxb

I am northwest region somaliland

 

[Arabsiyawi]

I am northwest region somaliland

Thats also where I hail from, maybe we’re directly maternally related

 

[BigShaq]

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