Somali lady attacked with brick by madow thug after rejecting him

[Angelina]

who are they getting married to? Women from back home, in other words they provide value for those women. While you’re right that women are expected to cook and clean etc, this isn’t their strongest value and men will overlook women who don’t do these things cause women are most valued for their ability to give birth and make men less lonely, housework is a nice +

No, in our culture it isn’t overlooked. A woman that doesn’t tend to the house would be called Basari, and men who chew qat and don’t provide are often still married. We have to be honest here. Not providing isn’t a social stigma but refusing to clean as a woman is. You’re called dirty since the house chores are on you, not your man.

Your points only work if you’re going to argue that men that don’t provide are ostracized. They’re not. Everyday we have single mothers from Xamar to Hargeisa to the West crying that their ex doesn’t give them money. We even have married women are abandoned and are crying that they don’t get money from their husbands. Are those men ostracized? No they’re not. They’re free to go about their lives and marry again

Here’s the difference most men are ignored while most women are valued if they don’t do certain things, most women aren’t ostracized and slandered whereas most men will be ignored if they don’t fix up, men have to gain, women will lose overtime and it’s obviously harder to gain something than it is to lose it.

Yes, they would be slandered. At this point you’re disagreeing for the sake of it. A mother that abandons her children is looked down upon far and I mean far more than a father that abandons his kids. In fact the latter is normalized.

You know it and I know it. Men are not ignored for abandoning their kids. That’s a massive lie and a cope. But simply marry again.

Don’t believe this at all, warlords who’ve committed atrocities, only get away with it cause they have power, as soon as they lose that power it’s over for them, there’s no turning a new lead as the newest warlord ends the last guys life

This is just dishonest, how likely are women gonna be interested in poor desperate men from back home, almost zero women from the west. The ones who do marry men from back home grew up there anyway and don’t relate to western abdi’s, they also marry the rich ones or ones who have something going for them back home

They don’t marry the rich ones. Seriously? Have you been living under a rock? Men have used women for citizenship for decades now. Everyday they’re crying on TikTok for it. I think you’re pretty sheltered for you to think women don’t marry fobs.

They have passports that’s makes them very useful to the women that try to be with them, it gives them a chance of a better life

Men marry women for passports all the time as well. So what’s your point? I know so many cases of women who’ve been left once their husband got passports.

shouldn’t use the term inherent value, when it comes to people valuing each other. Again passport

This has everything to do with gender, women aren’t interested in Faraxs back home for them most part and you know it

We’re just circling the drain at this point, you’re failing to recognise the benefits of being female while ignoring the disadvantages of being male, while I recognise there advantages and disadvantages to both being male and female and that it’s still generally better to be male on average.

Of course it’s better to be male. There is not denying. And I’m not denying that on an individual level, women can have

omen initiate divorce more than men so it’s actually women who leave more than men do, your point literally doesn’t make sense.

It does make sense since you’re trying to change the goal post. We’re looking at the reasoning for divorce and it’s men who divorce women more for sickness than the other way around.

Two things can be the same at the same time. Women divorce more, but divorce less for the reason of sickness.

Women leave men more than men leave women in divorce, most of the time it’s Irreconcilable differences, which usually translates to personality problem or didn’t provide enough value to me

You’re adding in your own personal interpretation tbh and a disingenuous one at that. If you have differences with your friend and you feel like they’re rude, or don’t help you or treat you well, does that mean you don’t value them or you don’t feel valued by them?

I was watching a divorce lawyer talk about a lot of the cases of irreconcilable differences, and he argued that most cases was because the wife was overworked. Not only did she do most of the cooking and cleaning but also earned money and paid 50% of the bills. Obviously a woman who does all of that whilst not being helped isn’t going to feel valued.

Add in the fact that leaving spouses upon illnesses is more common for men, it is clear as day that women’s usefulness is just as important if not more in a relationship in this day and age.

This is literally a lie, men that aren’t useful aren’t even considered, let alone be left by someone, and on top of that women leave men than men leave women.

If they weren’t considered a lot of Somali men wouldn’t have been able to marry. I literally know of couples in which the father never worked and spend his days arguing about Qabil at his local cafe whilst the kids were raised on benefits.

You can maybe argue that with regards to other communities, but unfortunately not our own. I’ve seen far too many issues of that nature for me to take your argument seriously.

I never said women are useless, what I said was they have a certain value men don’t have and there are obviously other values they can provide on top of that

Fair enough.

Women don’t need to provide as much as men not due to capitalism lol. Women are the ones who make men fight for them and provide for them, not capitalism, it’s simple female preference, whereas males prefer women who are chaste, not already taken and preferably attractive.

You really don’t understand my point do you? I think it flew over your head. Women do provide, just as much if not more. But it’s capitalism that thinks a mother of 6 who cooks, cleans, teachers her children, bathes them, breastfeeds, births and the list goes on isn’t as useful as me a woman who is sitting in an air conditioned office earning $ to work 5 hours.

Between me, someone who even works remote and does only a few hours but gets $ or a mother who works around the clock, who is more useful? Capitalism and men who aren’t clued up would say I’m more useful, yet if that mother decides to leave and another woman isn’t willing to do it for free, the husband would have to spend $$$ to get the same service that the mother offers.

Right now, I’m at work. It’s a computer based job. Do you think I’d be able to type essays if I was a mother with many kids under 10?

All these preferences existed way before capitalism and is literally in our scripture. It seems like you’re looking at things from a very narrow lense.

You’ve misunderstood my whole point, but read the paragraph above carefully and let it sink in.

Yes, women how can’t give birth and don’t provide any other value aren’t seen as valuable by society, that’s fair but this is a minority of women and you can’t use a minority to explain the majority cause I could just point to disabled men who can’t do anything in the same way but that’s dishonest cause a reasonable amount of men will become valuable enough for at least a decent portion of people to care about them.

A simple argument trumps your points. If women had the same value or more than men, we wouldn’t be having several cultures around the world that engaged in female infanticide. From the Ancient Arabs in which baby girls would be physically buried to modern day Indians who have the highest abortion rates of killing girls in the womb to such an extent that government has made it illegal to screen for gender.

In several cultures around the world, girls aren’t even seen as being worth life itself. If you’re honest, that should tell you that men and women aren’t valued the same! If we’re worth protecting more as you claimed, why are baby girls murdered the most?

 

[Bari🐍]

This poor girl, who is almost act like AA, grow up in America and is virtually a black woman almost like any other black woman in Texas, is now being disclaimed by the black community, mentioning her ethnic background to distance themselves from her and the group surrounding her. And to some extend they started waging campaign against her from defamation to disinformation



But what shocked me is how some somali male her saying mac sonkor for stupid reasons, how her being naughty anything to do with you being ok for what happened to her? If this was a somali thug rapper getting attacked by a madhow 90% of "mac sonkor" her would sympathies with him and talked about revenge and what not.

But since this is a dumb female let, most of you started joining the disinformation against by the black community like these consensual videos where she slap men, mostly white men, but these are skits and consensual

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Why are you like this? Why you always act like a dick when one of your own got attacked physically and virtually? Why you join them?

Poor girl kulaha this beast is anything but a poor girl

 

[Aurelian]

Some even went to the next level and made a fake story about her

 

[Angelina]

@Angelina
If you think that men have it way easier than women, then I would recommend that you read the book: “Self-Made Man” by Norah Vincent. Norah Vincent was a feminist journalist who chose to try to experience how it was like to be a man, since she assumed that it was way easier than being a woman. She disguised herself as a man for 18 month and documented her experiences. By the end of the 18 months, she ended up suffering a mental breakdown and was admitted into a psychiatric facility.

I think she must have had personal issues. She was very depressed and took a cocktail of medications. I say this not to denigrate your point but the fact that your points belies the fact that in the age of transgenderism, we have former women who literally live life as men and take hormones who not only now look like men but live like them. One woman doesn’t trump the thousands who’ve transitioned for decades.

Also, when talking about gender we need to remember that other factors are at play. Being a rich man is much easier than being a poor man, being a good looking man is much easier than being a bad looking man. Being a masculine man is much easier than being a feminine man. I can imagine, Nora found it difficult being a man who was very feminine. Since she wasn’t taking hormones, didn’t have the strength of biological men or had the capacity to think like them, she was at a disadvantage and lower than the average man by every metric. Hence you could never argue that her experiences weren’t authentic as she wasn’t a man but one that was cosplaying.

Hence, I don’t agree with this assessment at all. A feminine, bad looking, low T, high estrogen man who had the thought process of a woman (since he is a woman) is obviously going to suffer. If by a miracle of science or she bothered to take T pills and did surgery and she transformed into a man, I don’t think her experiences would have been that shattering. I’d say the same about a biological male who didn’t bother getting surgery or estrogen pills. He’d shatter as well. He’d be seen as a freak show.

I do not think that men are considered to have inherent worth in society, in fact I think that few people have inherent worth in society regardless of gender. Everyone has a set of basic expectations that if they do not fulfill, society will kick them to the curb. There are things that I could do that would result in me being disowned and thrown in the streets and the same goes for you and most other people in this forum.

I’d like to believe your assessment, but for millennia female infanticide has been a lot more common than the other way around. From the Ancient Arabs killing their baby daughters to modern day Indians aborting their female fetuses. Clearly, several cultures around the world believe that boys are of more value and are a lot more worthy of life. Same with China and the one child policy so now you have a shortage of brides. Let’s ask ourselves, what did those babies and fetus do to not even ever be given a chance at life?

As for men, I think that their value is tied to their material possession and what they could provide, while women’s value is tied to their looks and reputation. This is why a man could be a sorry sack of sh*t and still be considered of value, as long as he has material possessions to his name.

Abdi the Gangbanger has his western passport and Aabo’s money and Faarax the Mooryaan Warlord has his status and the vast sums of money that he got from his looting days. But what about Hussein the Geeljire who’s flocks all died during the drought and who has nothing to his name but his tattered clothes? Do you think he stands a chance in the marriage market even if he is the most pious man north of the Shabeelle?

Lol have you been back home? Poor men still marry. Obviously his chances of securing the type of bride he would want is a lot lower. But you’re from a nation that is third world, starvation ect and people relying on remittance yet still the youth marry. We have very high birth rates. Hussein the Geelgire is everywhere in Somalia and they have a wife and sometimes ‘wives’. One of the things that shocked me about back home is that poor men at times at access to multiple women. I’ve seen poor mothers having to sell veg at the market as they had no money but their piss poor husband would use the tiny bit of money to be with another woman. Open your eyes to reality.

Do you think society values him? And what about Hussein’s young and chaste daughter Fadumo? The odeys will be lining up for Fadumo’s hand in marriage, each one offering more mehr than the last.

What you completely forget is that in the Somali context your qabil is more important than your material possessions. Hence Fadumo if she’s from a landheere tribe might get lots of offering. But you forget that for most of human history, poor women have always been the most vulnerable. Trafficking, concubinage, abuse ect. Poor women have always been a mirror image of their men. You’re forgetting that. You’re creating the impression that poor women have the ability to live a good life whilst their brother isn’t when that isn’t the full picture. You need to remember that poor Faduma has the ability to still get halal interest as her brother and father are seen as nasab! Despite their lack of money, they still have a bit of respect in Somali society. You need to understand is that a man that has 0 value or respect in society wouldnt be able to attract upstanding or higher value men for his daughter.

Let’s change poor Faduma to a poor midgan Fadumo. Do you honestly think she’ll get any interest from richer men? No rich Somali man is going for the daughter of a man they look at as low value. They marry the daughter of men they’re related to who come from major tribes and that sin what gives poor Faduma along would her other personal charms value. She is valued because of her father and brother you regard as low value compared to her. Your shallow analysis fails you since you don’t look at it deeply. We’re a clan based society not a class based society.

If we look at societies around the globe, poor women had higher rates of being forced into prostitution, higher rates of DV and the list goes on. Why is that? Because their men were seen as low value, hence they’ve been treated as fair game. That should tell you something. Do you think a poor untouchable woman in India was treated better than her male counterparts because of her virginity and youth?!

Of course, this will all change the minute that Fadumo falls into disrepute, but you cannot deny that at the moment, society sees Fadumo as a lot more valuable than her piss poor dad.

Faduma only has value as her piss poor father is nasaab and is probably related to these rich men. In our society you can be piss poor, but you’d be respected enough by your tribesmen for people to want to marry your daughter. Let’s replace Faduma’s piss poor father with that of a Madhibaan. Faduma’s chastity and beauty would not be able to save her. Women’s social standing comes from their fathers and brothers and if the men are looked down upon, so are their daughters . Let’s pretend that Somalia is a class based society in which men derive respect from their inherited wealth? Fadumo would be screwed.

You’re only able to come with that comparison of a poor brother and poor sister as our culture values tribe and nasab. If you tried that example in the context of let’s say 19th century UK, it would fall apart. Why? Because a poor man’s sister wouldn’t ever get the attention of the rich apart from being turned into a valueless woman and being used and abused and she’d be working in the factory besides her brother. That’s the story around the world. It’s the story of most societies that values class and money.

That is not to say that women are valued more than men, cause they aren’t; or that men have it harder than women, cause they don’t. I just have a problem with the fact that you think that men have it WAY easier than women and that men have intrinsic value. I really don’t think that’s true.

Fair enough.

 

[Ozymandias]

Why does the somali community manage to go viral every single time

 

[Shimbiris]

This shit went viral

This woman is tough as shit. How the f*ck was she still standing soon after being bricked in the face like that?! God almighty. If Gaddafi was still alive I'd advise he recruit her for his Amazonian guard. Woman would survive 10 bullet wounds before going down. Goddamn.

 

[noname_]

Why does the somali community manage to go viral every single time

What caused this is being very loud and vocal on the internet and have zero awareness of what they write in public forums that 1bn+ people all over the world can see.

 

[Ozymandias]

What caused this is being very loud and vocal on the internet and have zero awareness of what they write in public forums that 1bn+ people all over the world can see.

Af somaaliga wa inaan badino, maalmahaan qoraalka kala duwan wala turjumi karaa, laakin waxan o laa suubinayo bu inyar yareeya, ceebaheeni ba ingriisi ku qorna walle

 

[Nilotic]

Why couldn't people just say that what happened to her was wrong; that they hope she makes a quick and full recovery; that she removes herself from such a debased environment and the attendant scenarios that play out in them; and that she seeks the help that she obviously needs.

Most of what was said was just

 

[Aurelian]

Why couldn't people just say that what happened to her was wrong; that they hope she makes a quick and full recovery; that she removes herself from such a debased environment and the attendant scenarios that play out in them; and that she seeks the help that she obviously needs.

Most of what was said was just

They talk as if she was their ex and left them for that guy who hit her with the brick.

 

[Shimbiris]

You niggas are mentally ill. No one deserves a brick to the face for being a degenerate. Who are they even hurting other than themselves and their own quality of life? I understand maybe judging them but a BRICK to the face? You niggas is dangerous.

 

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

You niggas are mentally ill. No one deserves a brick to the face for being a degenerate. Who are they even hurting other than themselves and their own quality of life? I understand maybe judging them but a BRICK to the face? You niggas is dangerous.

These are the types to already resent women and especially women who are with foreign men, they see it as a personal insult. The only man who is okay with a woman being assaulted, is the type to do it, or turn away when their friend does it; they are complicit in violent crimes against women.

 

[attash]

I think she must have had personal issues. She was very depressed and took a cocktail of medications. I say this not to denigrate your point but the fact that your points belies the fact that in the age of transgenderism, we have former women who literally live life as men and take hormones who not only now look like men but live like them. One woman doesn’t trump the thousands who’ve transitioned for decades.

Also, when talking about gender we need to remember that other factors are at play. Being a rich man is much easier than being a poor man, being a good looking man is much easier than being a bad looking man. Being a masculine man is much easier than being a feminine man. I can imagine, Nora found it difficult being a man who was very feminine. Since she wasn’t taking hormones, didn’t have the strength of biological men or had the capacity to think like them, she was at a disadvantage and lower than the average man by every metric. Hence you could never argue that her experiences weren’t authentic as she wasn’t a man but one that was cosplaying.

Hence, I don’t agree with this assessment at all. A feminine, bad looking, low T, high estrogen man who had the thought process of a woman (since he is a woman) is obviously going to suffer. If by a miracle of science or she bothered to take T pills and did surgery and she transformed into a man, I don’t think her experiences would have been that shattering. I’d say the same about a biological male who didn’t bother getting surgery or estrogen pills. He’d shatter as well. He’d be seen as a freak show.

Yes, this is a major reason for her mental breakdown, but much of the difficulty she went through was because of her struggles as an average man. Most of the issues she complained about were issues that any average man would face (loneliness & total lack of emotional support, constant rejection, always being judged for your skill -even if it's at a simple game of bowling-, etc). The main point of her book was that the grass wasn't much greener on the other side of the gender line, which I think is true.

I’d like to believe your assessment, but for millennia female infanticide has been a lot more common than the other way around. From the Ancient Arabs killing their baby daughters to modern day Indians aborting their female fetuses. Clearly, several cultures around the world believe that boys are of more value and are a lot more worthy of life. Same with China and the one child policy so now you have a shortage of brides. Let’s ask ourselves, what did those babies and fetus do to not even ever be given a chance at life?

Yes, and how many boys and men were sent off to be used as cannon fodder in pointless wars? Whenever an army would conquer a region, they would often kill all the males and spare the females. Why is that? Because the males in this situation are of no value and the females are of value.

Lol have you been back home? Poor men still marry. Obviously his chances of securing the type of bride he would want is a lot lower. But you’re from a nation that is third world, starvation ect and people relying on remittance yet still the youth marry. We have very high birth rates. Hussein the Geelgire is everywhere in Somalia and they have a wife and sometimes ‘wives’. One of the things that shocked me about back home is that poor men at times at access to multiple women. I’ve seen poor mothers having to sell veg at the market as they had no money but their piss poor husband would use the tiny bit of money to be with another woman. Open your eyes to reality.

Hussein the Geljire can still marry? With what mahr? His tattered macawiis? I'm not talking about men with little money, I'm talking about men who have nothing. If they have nothing, then they are nothing; no one wants them. If they have little, then they are little; some will still want them. If they have a lot, then they are lot; a lot of will want them. That's my point: a man's value is tied to his possessions.

What you completely forget is that in the Somali context your qabil is more important than your material possessions. Hence Fadumo if she’s from a landheere tribe might get lots of offering. But you forget that for most of human history, poor women have always been the most vulnerable. Trafficking, concubinage, abuse ect. Poor women have always been a mirror image of their men. You’re forgetting that. You’re creating the impression that poor women have the ability to live a good life whilst their brother isn’t when that isn’t the full picture. You need to remember that poor Faduma has the ability to still get halal interest as her brother and father are seen as nasab! Despite their lack of money, they still have a bit of respect in Somali society. You need to understand is that a man that has 0 value or respect in society wouldnt be able to attract upstanding or higher value men for his daughter.

I'm not talking about attracting upstanding men, I'm talking about attracting men in general. Even if Fadumo was laangaab she would still attract some offers, even from some laandheer men. Women don't have qabiil, so the saying goes; so even if a laandheer man married a laangaab woman, his children won't be laangaab.

Let’s change poor Faduma to a poor midgan Fadumo. Do you honestly think she’ll get any interest from richer men? No rich Somali man is going for the daughter of a man they look at as low value. They marry the daughter of men they’re related to who come from major tribes and that sin what gives poor Faduma along would her other personal charms value. She is valued because of her father and brother you regard as low value compared to her. Your shallow analysis fails you since you don’t look at it deeply. We’re a clan based society not a class based society.

Madhibaans are a special case. They are not low-caste, they are outcastes. All Madhibaans are seen as undesirable, whether male of female. Even then, Fadumo will still attract offers from fellow Madhibaans.

If we look at societies around the globe, poor women had higher rates of being forced into prostitution, higher rates of DV and the list goes on. Why is that? Because their men were seen as low value, hence they’ve been treated as fair game. That should tell you something. Do you think a poor untouchable woman in India was treated better than her male counterparts because of her virginity and youth?!

Faduma only has value as her piss poor father is nasaab and is probably related to these rich men. In our society you can be piss poor, but you’d be respected enough by your tribesmen for people to want to marry your daughter. Let’s replace Faduma’s piss poor father with that of a Madhibaan. Faduma’s chastity and beauty would not be able to save her. Women’s social standing comes from their fathers and brothers and if the men are looked down upon, so are their daughters . Let’s pretend that Somalia is a class based society in which men derive respect from their inherited wealth? Fadumo would be screwed.

You’re only able to come with that comparison of a poor brother and poor sister as our culture values tribe and nasab. If you tried that example in the context of let’s say 19th century UK, it would fall apart. Why? Because a poor man’s sister wouldn’t ever get the attention of the rich apart from being turned into a valueless woman and being used and abused and she’d be working in the factory besides her brother. That’s the story around the world. It’s the story of most societies that values class and money.

What I'm trying to say is that Hussein isn't valued at all, either by women or by his male peers, while Fadumo is seen as having at least some value.

Fair enough.

So we can agree that men don't have intrinsic value? That's the main point I'm trying to make.

 

[Smokybob03]

This woman is tough as shit. How the f*ck was she still standing soon after being bricked in the face like that?! God almighty. If Gaddafi was still alive I'd advise he recruit her for his Amazonian guard. Woman would survive 10 bullet wounds before going down. Goddamn.

adrenaline saxib. i had a jones fracture in my right foot after twisting it during basketball game at the gym. thought it was a minor sprain which wasnt painful. got home an hour later...the moment i got sat down to take my shoes off. Holy.

 

[KaiMarvin]

 

[Angelina]

Yes, this is a major reason for her mental breakdown, but much of the difficulty she went through was because of her struggles as an average man. Most of the issues she complained about were issues that any average man would face (loneliness & total lack of emotional support, constant rejection, always being judged for your skill -even if it's at a simple game of bowling-, etc). The main point of her book was that the grass wasn't much greener on the other side of the gender line, which I think is true.

Yes, and how many boys and men were sent off to be used as cannon fodder in pointless wars? Whenever an army would conquer a region, they would often kill all the males and spare the females. Why is that? Because the males in this situation are of no value and the females are of value.

If females were of value in certain cultures, all would be allowed to actually be born and live life right? They wouldn’t be dying for no reason, but battles have many reasons.

Also, you’re comparing apples and oranges. Men are physically stronger than women. It’s like saying how many women died giving birth. The ji**d for men is battle and the one for women is child birth. Both massive sacrifices and before the advent of technology 1in 4 women died which is why child birth in Islam is seen as a battle equal to that of men at war. Also, Men start these battles and are sent by other men for various reasons. Defending a nation? Religious? Resources?

They’d kill the males, because the males have the strength to uprise. The women are r-worded for men’s sexual pleasure. I don’t know about you but God forbid? I’d rather die. Also, some groups like the Mongols also killed the women as well, but they’re R-word them before hand.

Also, it’s not true to suggest that all the men were killed. Many weren’t and we’re actually sold as slaves to work fields. Their strength was a commodity as well. The slavery of men wouldn’t exist if all men were killed.

Hussein the Geljire can still marry? With what mahr? His tattered macawiis? I'm not talking about men with little money, I'm talking about men who have nothing.

Lol, if a man is so poor and has a tattered macawiis, then what makes you think his sister would be seen as worth to marrying? She’d be wearing a tattered baati. Her youth and beauty would be fleeting due to extreme hunger as well. So whatever made her physically appealing would wane. She’d be of ill health. The point I’m trying to make is that daughters are a reflection of the status of that of their male family members. Look at world statistics, women who are from families which are very poor tend to remain so. The world’s poorest demographic are indeed women and children walalo.

If they have nothing, then they are nothing; no one wants them. If they have little, then they are little; some will still want them. If they have a lot, then they are lot; a lot of will want them. That's my point: a man's value is tied to his possessions.

You’re forgetting that as long as Hassan is Nassab, in our culture anyway, there is a chance he’d get help. How do you think many our dirt poor families live? Remittance, tribal help like qaaran. The very poor back home are still married. The same man that’s asking for his sister would indeed give him something. That’s how arranged/forced marriages worked. Fathers would ask for money in return for marrying his daughter off.

I'm not talking about attracting upstanding men, I'm talking about attracting men in general. Even if Fadumo was laangaab she would still attract some offers, even from some laandheer men. Women don't have qabiil, so the saying goes; so even if a laandheer man married a laangaab woman, his children won't be laangaab.

That’s a lie and it’s clear you know nothing of Somali culture. Kids with midgaan mothers are insulted. Historically Somalis never married them. Women don’t have qabil is they mean is that a woman can’t pass down her tribe but who your kids Abti’s are is of importance! They do and men wouldn’t marry the daughters of men who aren’t nasaab. This isn’t up for debate, ask around and you’ll get your answer. In Somali culture Midgaan women and men are treated the same.

Madhibaans are a special case. They are not low-caste, they are outcastes. All Madhibaans are seen as undesirable, whether male of female. Even then, Fadumo will still attract offers from fellow Madhibaans.

Yes, but they would be poor and low class like that of a brother. Like I said, women are reflection of their male family members. Their social standings impact them.

What I'm trying to say is that Hussein isn't valued at all, either by women or by his male peers, while Fadumo is seen as having at least some value.

She isn’t if the males in her family are totally valueless. You’re trying to create the impression that someone like Hassan will not have value in a country in which tribe is the biggest currency.

So we can agree that men don't have intrinsic value? That's the main point I'm trying to make.

I need to think about it. Really analyze

 

[Odious Delirium]

 

[Ozymandias]

Yooo ppl aren't caadi, wallahi ajaanibs have beef with the malis, niggas beat a xalimo up then say a farax did it

 

[Khaem]

Yooo ppl aren't caadi, wallahi ajaanibs have beef with the malis, niggas beat a xalimo up then say a farax did it

Even when jreerified and her madow man got beef somehow the Noble Somali man is always involved.

 

[Odious Delirium]

Yooo ppl aren't caadi, wallahi ajaanibs have beef with the malis, niggas beat a xalimo up then say a farax did it

Na but do you deep how they like to make a difference and not associate with us when something bad happens but in the opposite senario we are all black

I hope the self haters get the memo that they ain't ever gonna be seen as black black.
We are only black when it suits them and Somalian otherwise. It baffles me how some people have managed to turn this into a gender war on both sides

My whole fyp has becomes madows memeing on this girl