Somali boys say that the Somali female police officer is embarassing them - Somali Twitter pissed!!!

[Abdalla]

You’re literally retarded. Most Somali girls are not BLM. They’re NOT the same crowd. And there is MORE THAN one side..

I don't have to look outside sspot to see the clear contradiction of the unprincipled xalimos. This is you

At least with SJWBLMs, I can see how a Somali in the US might relate to, or defend Blacks as an African 'Black' minority themselves, and besides that nothing they say is mutually exclusive, ie, one can be concerned about police brutality and still care about Somali issues,

https://www.somalispot.com/threads/...s-outrage-and-praise.30635/page-2#post-800341

Now here you are sticking up for a police. Again pick a side

 

[VixR]

I don't have to look outside sspot to see the clear contradiction of the unprincipled xalimos. This is you


https://www.somalispot.com/threads/...s-outrage-and-praise.30635/page-2#post-800341

Now here you are sticking up for a police. Again pick a side

Literally none of that contradicts anything I’ve said on this thread! I’m pro-police, because I believe in law and order, but I know it can be an imperfect system, and part of fixing that is a multi-ethnic task force.

 

[Abdalla]

None of that contradicts anything I said on this thread. police. I’m pro-police, because I believe in law and order, but I know it can be an imperfect system, and part of fixing that is a multi-ethnic task force.

My awoowe told me people who use too many 'buts' are liars. I'm pro police but kulaha.

 

[VixR]

My awoowe told me people who use too many 'buts' are liars. I'm pro police but kulaha.

I’m assuming he must’ve forgotten to teach you how to grasp nuance and see a problem from multiple perspectives? Don’t bring your granddad into this.

 

[MARAQ DIGAAG]

Maraq what the hell are you talking about? Find me these xalimos who are congratulating black people for abusing black police officers. You are taking this to a far extreme that does not even seem to exist. If I found a video of a free Palestine supporter cheering on Jews getting abused in the UK would this mark the stance of the whole movement?

You need to decide whether it’s somali girls who are speaking out against police racism who are the problem or police officers who are mainly stop and searching black children who are the problem. Looks like you have one foot in both camps.

Personally I stopped giving a damn about how the police treats Somalis since you openly mock girls that do. I hope the police ramp it up because it doesn’t affect women only men.

It is possible to agree with someone on one thing and disagree with them on many other points. Moreover, it is is normal to differ on methodology and ideology with a given group whom you generally sympathise with on one particular topic. It doesn’t mean I have a foot in both camps, though I must admit to bashing them rather unfairly at times.

Secondly, BLM does not have a god-given right to be the sole voice of the African people in the West on the subject of police brutality/discrimination. My family were taking the police to court way before some little Xalimo found Twitter.

To clarify my views on BLM and Somalis, I generally sympathise with them on the subject of police discrimination. Where I differ with them is on the following points:

1. Historical revisionism about Somalis.

2. Their Cultural appropriation of AA struggles, history, and trying to fit Somalis into some monotholic black victim experience. I prefer to understand African history not as monolithic experience, but as a sets of heterogenous nations with different cultures, religions and experiences. A Somali nomads experience with Europeans and Arabs is not the same as Somali Bantus or Bantus in Zanzibar. For me, Afrocentrism is probably more ahistorical and racist than Eurocentrism. I think it is racist to view African history through the lense of colour all the time when European history is understood through the lenses of nations and ethnicities.


3. Cringeworthy racism towards whites/Arabs people in general and the gross over exaggeration of racism faced by Somalis in the West. We are not AAs and have not been struggling for 500 years. We came to the West at a time when black people were granted many rights and we benefited from free education, housing and many of us send money back home. Reading some of the stuff BLM Somalis write you would be think they experienced Jim Crow. I think they are too critical of their host societies and grossly exaggerate every perceived act of injustice. Call me a coon if you want.

Yes, I have been stopped and searched by the police a few times and there is some institutional racism, but even I don’t believe there is some great crusade against me by white society in general which stops me from achieving my best. I also don’t believe the police issue is the biggest one for Somalis in the West. The gang and crime issue deserves much more time and effort. The gangs and criminals are doing more harm to the community’s than the police. We ignore the daily murder of blacks by other blacks but everyone is ready to protest and go to war on the odd and rare ccasion when a black man is killed in UK police custody......


Suugo Science tangent !

 

[Abdalla]

I’m assuming he must’ve forgotten to teach you how to grasp nuance and see a problem from multiple perspectives? Don’t bring your granddad into this.

There's no nuance whatsoever. You picked a side earlier and now you switched sides. Your silly response to your clear unprincipled contradiction reminded me of my awoowes life lessons to me.

 

[VixR]

There's no nuance whatsoever. You picked a side earlier and now you switched sides. Your silly response to your clear unprincipled contradiction reminded me of my awoowes life lessons to me.

I haven’t switched sides, and you haven’t proven that, but you can tell yourself whatever you need to and sprinkle it with unrelated anecdotes from your granddad for decoration all you like.

 

[Muji]

There's no nuance whatsoever. You picked a side earlier and now you switched sides. Your silly response to your clear unprincipled contradiction reminded me of my awoowes life lessons to me.

People like you who don’t believe in nuance are often dogmatic in their approach and it also symbols a low IQ. Again I repeat, saying that the police make mistakes and some have biases does not equate hating them. Just as admitting that some employers discriminate based on gender and race does not mean you hate enterprise and are an anti-capitalist.

The smartest thing right wing conservatives did was to spin the narrative of this discussion to patriotism rather than discuss the issue it self. Their hypocrisy was exposed when a Somali police officer shot a white blonde and they were happy to criticise and threaten the ‘blue life’ they treasured so deeply.

 

[Abdalla]

People like you who don’t believe in nuance are often dogmatic in their approach and it also symbols a low IQ. Again I repeat, saying that the police make mistakes and some have biases does not equate hating them. Just as admitting that some employers discriminate based on gender and race does not mean you hate enterprise and are an anti-capitalist.

The smartest thing right wing conservatives did was to spin the narrative of this discussion to patriotism rather than discuss the issue it self. Their hypocrisy was exposed when a Somali police officer shot a white blonde and they were happy to criticise and threaten the ‘blue life’ they treasured so deeply.

I haven’t switched sides, and you haven’t proven that, but you can tell yourself whatever you need to and sprinkle it with unrelated anecdotes from your granddad for decoration all you like.

I'm not having this discussion about police brutality. I just saw a clear unprincipled contradiction, perhaps it's your populistic nature to swings where the wind blows. Vixr said in a previous thread that she understands Somalis joining blm and protest police brutality only to make the easy and convenient switch to berate the Somali youngsters and standing up for the police 'that's making their streets safer'. When I pointed out the contradiction she hid behind a fake sense of nuances.

@Knowles now you're contradicting yourself as well. In your last response to me you are very clear anti police, but in this thread, for the purpose of humiliating Somali youth, you're pro police.

 

[Muji]

I'm not having this discussion about police brutality. I just saw a clear unprincipled contradiction, perhaps it's your populistic nature to swings where the wind blows. Vixr said in a previous thread that she understands Somalis joining blm and protest police brutality only to make the easy and convenient switch to berate the Somali youngsters and standing up for the police 'that's making their streets safer'. When I pointed out the contradiction she hid behind a fake sense of nuances.

@Knowles now you're contradicting yourself as well. In your last response to me you are very clear anti police, but in this thread, for the purpose of humiliating Somali youth, you're pro police.

I am anti-police? Are you ok? Have you been reading anything I’ve said? The people I’m speaking to have not even levelled this accusation at me @MARAQ DIGAAG @Gooney112. It’s clear that you joined this conversation for sensationalism.

 

[VixR]

I'm not having this discussion about police brutality. I just saw a clear unprincipled contradiction, perhaps it's your populistic nature to swings where the wind blows. Vixr said in a previous thread that she understands Somalis joining blm and protest police brutality only to make the easy and convenient switch to berate the Somali youngsters and standing up for the police 'that's making their streets safer'. When I pointed out the contradiction she hid behind a fake sense of nuances.

@Knowles now you're contradicting yourself as well. In your last response to me you are very clear anti police, but in this thread, for the purpose of humiliating Somali youth, you're pro police.

I’ve always been pro-police! And I’ve never been a proponent of BLM, though I’ve always had a level of understanding for the inconsistencies and injustices in the US criminal justice system that lead minorities and blacks to adopt BLM attitudes. It’s an imperfect system, but without the police, there’d be more disorder and chaos. This is really not so difficult to understand.

 

[Abdalla]

I’ve always been pro-police! And I’ve never been a proponent of BLM, though I’ve always had a level of understanding for the inconsistencies and injustices in the US criminal justice system that lead minorities and blacks to adopt BLM attitudes. This is really not so difficult to understand.

So why don't you show the same courtesy to the Somali youth in that video? When it concerns blacks you're nuanced, when it concerns Somalis, you think in a black and white manner.

 

[VixR]

So why don't you show the same courtesy to the Somali youth in that video? When it concerns blacks you're nuanced, when it concerns Somalis, you think in a black and white manner.

And what exactly of concern has befallen the Somali youth in the video?

 

[Gooney112]

And what exactly of concern has befallen the Somali youth in the video?

The same sh1t black youth....you think police who treat bad blacks treat somali youth better?

I am anti-police? Are you ok? Have you been reading anything I’ve said? The people I’m speaking to have not even levelled this accusation at me @MARAQ DIGAAG @Gooney112. It’s clear that you joined this conversation for sensationalism.

You are not anti police. You are anti somali men. Its actually worse to hate on your own. If you hope police for police mistreat somali men, does that include your own male family members?

 

[TekNiKo]

any Somali who joins the popo deserves humiliation

 

[VixR]

The same sh1t black youth....you think police who treat bad blacks treat somali youth better?

Abdalla knew to shut up bc there was of nothing of concern happening to the Somali youth in the video that he could mention, in fact, they were ones causing disruption and acting stupid in this case.

 

[Gooney112]

Abdalla knew to shut up bc there was of nothing of concern happening to the Somali youth in the video that he could mention, in fact, they were ones causing disruption and acting stupid in this case.

True...they were silly kids. Btw do you agree with my views on blm?

 

[VixR]

True...they were silly kids. Btw do you agree with my views on blm?

Of course, that sort of cop you mentioned would not treat Somalis better, which is why it’s not surprising to me that Somalis in mostly disadvantaged areas are pro-BLM; they’re hyper aware of that fact. They also tend to embrace black American culture to a higher extent. This is at odds with Somalis who have anti-black views and abhor ‘their kind’ joining black movements, and aligning themselves with the label. But these two groups come from different experiences.

A thinking Somali should be able to understand why BLM has taken off among some Somalis, without throwing a fit, and should also confront the pseudo sense of superiority against blacks that blinds him from seeing it.

As for BLM, I agree that’s it’s a toxic and failed experiment. The West can’t function on identity politics, hence the reason the Alt-Right has risen, bc if Black people, and women, and everyone under the sun is operating under identity politics, then why can’t a poor and angry white who feels frustrated and disillusioned by the ‘white privilege’ everyone keeps him telling he has?

 

[Gooney112]

Of course, that sort of cop you mentioned would not treat Somalis better, which is why it’s not surprising to me that Somalis in mostly disadvantaged areas are pro-BLM; they’re hyper aware of that fact. They also tend to embrace black American culture to a higher extent. This is at odds with Somalis who have anti-black views and abhor ‘their kind’ joining black movements, and aligning themselves with the label. But these two groups come from different experiences.

A thinking Somali should be able to understand why BLM has taken off among some Somalis, without throwing a fit, and should also confront the pseudo sense of superiority against blacks that blinds him from seeing it.

As for BLM, I agree that’s it’s a toxic and failed experiment. The West can’t function on identity politics, hence the reason the Alt-Right has risen, bc if Black people, and women, and everyone under the sun is operating under identity politics, then why can’t a poor and angry white who feels frustrated and disillusioned by the ‘white privilege’ everyone keeps him telling he has?

I understand why it has taken on with some somalis as you say they already embraced african american culture and live among them.....so its the next logical step. I dont look down on their culture or uk blacks culture. I just dont identify with it. The superiority complex comes from both sides though. Some of these blm supporters dont feel other blacks who identify with them are woke people and see them as ignorant. Also last point is so true...if you play identity politics and thevother side is far more than you. Expect to lose big time. From what I seen a lot of the blm somali crowd seem to be young or in uni which is a different type of environment. So its important to remember their age as well

 

[jamal lacaag]

Aar

The cops harass only people like you and the public appreciates when they humiliate and arrest such people and clean them out of the streets and neighbourhoods. Law abiding people have nothing to fear about the cops. They are taught to engage them with respect.

everyone hates this fed she acts like she's cadaan and not somali