PL/JL CUT IMMEDIATE TIES TO MOGADISHU OVER LOWLY POST

[Poets]

How do you like to be messed up brother? Here is my Have a nice weekend message to you:

I hugged two Cali Saleban Guys on my way to buy dinner heartly earlier because they are my relatives? May be the Ali Salebans are non entity to you? Okay scratch that please. I have another card to play. If you know the Abtirsi of Omar Mahamud very well, My blood relative counts only one father to Khalaf and their father's name was Samatar. Hence, Ina Samatar Khalaf. Okay Scratch that. I have another relative to pull out of the card and it may not sit well with you because they are actually a relative blood of Sayid Momahed, and I am not talking about Ogaden in General but sub subclan of Bahgari., Okay scratch that, I have another relative to pull out from the card, I am related to Aydid down to the sub clan and am Reer Jalaf. Reer Cadaan, Oh, and don't miss the irony of KHALAF AND JALAF in my blood both and am not kidding.

If that is messing you up and you don't know where to attack in my family lineage, will think of something else.

Are you telling me the grandson of a man born in the early 1700s is alive, while the average descendant counts ~7-9 oday before reaching to Khalaf?

 

[Yonis]

At least with HabadGedir what you see is what you get.

With the Majerteens what you have are pure munafiqs. People face wise that like to extend courtesies and diplomacies but with hidden malicious intent.

I don't know why they like to segregate themselves from HG when they are both morally not that different from each other

Another closeted qabilist comes out, we're on a roll here @Abdalla

 

[Abdalla]

How do you like to be messed up brother? Here is my Have a nice weekend message to you:

I hugged two Cali Saleban Guys on my way to buy dinner heartly earlier because they are my relatives? May be the Ali Salebans are non entity to you? Okay scratch that please. I have another card to play. If you know the Abtirsi of Omar Mahamud very well, My blood relative counts only one father to Khalaf and their father's name was Samatar. Hence, Ina Samatar Khalaf. Okay Scratch that. I have another relative to pull out of the card and it may not sit well with you because they are actually a relative blood of Sayid Momahed, and I am not talking about Ogaden in General but sub subclan of Bahgari., Okay scratch that, I have another relative to pull out from the card, I am related to Aydid down to the sub clan and am Reer Jalaf. Reer Cadaan, Oh, and don't miss the irony of KHALAF AND JALAF in my blood both and am not kidding.

If that is messing you up and you don't know where to attack in my family lineage, will think of something else.

You know the grandson of Khalaf Shirwac Farax?

 

[Tenacious]

I'm trying to explain to you that it is a political fact that Jubbaland would not exist without Puntland. Jubbaland was Ahmed Madobe's militia in Kismayo followed with Kenyan troops, it had no backing from Xamar and needed to be recognized as a fully fledged state from Gedo to Jubbaland in the face of Hasan Sheikh Mohamud's Government, it was the political backing of Puntland that got Jubbaland that status despite HSM spending his first almost 2 years fighting the possibility of Jubbaland as a state. Lets keep in mind that the interior minister of Jubbaland is MJ/Harti and so is the mayor of Kismayo. You are not only historically incorrect but proud of your ignorance so that's that inshAllah Allah SWT will guide you to the light of wisdom and accurate facts.

I'm trying to explain to you that it is a political fact that Jubbaland would not exist without Puntland. Jubbaland was Ahmed Madobe's militia in Kismayo followed with Kenyan troops, it had no backing from Xamar and needed to be recognized as a fully fledged state from Gedo to Jubbaland in the face of Hasan Sheikh Mohamud's Government, it was the political backing of Puntland that got Jubbaland that status despite HSM spending his first almost 2 years fighting the possibility of Jubbaland as a state. Lets keep in mind that the interior minister of Jubbaland is MJ/Harti and so is the mayor of Kismayo. You are not only historically incorrect but proud of your ignorance so that's that inshAllah Allah SWT will guide you to the light of wisdom and accurate facts.

You are a LIAR. JL had no backing from Xamar and yet not a single leader from Xamar was able to enter Kismayo without the say so of Madoobe, also, if anyone can truley say as why culuso had to recognize JL was because of pressure from IGAD and last I checked it was lead by Afey an OGADEN man. Secondly, the creation of JL began with Absame backing till mx ASKED to be part of it. Mx and mj had nothing to do with jl creation.
If mx and mj were politically savvy or had any strength THEY would have created an administration in JL before Madoobe entered the picture. Mahbuub, Afey, Gaandhi and Madoobe backed by the Ogadeen Politicians in Kenya made JL possible, not two weak clans who cant even fight Kenya, alshabab and Isis. I am sure you saw the video of Kenyans chasing boons in beled xaawo, and you are teaching me that THAT clan had anything to do with the creation of JL. like I said. You are DELUSIONAL.

 

[Hassan Garguute Buldanana]

This is the problem of backing people with an IQ of a orangutan. FFS, it was just couple of yrs ago I understand politically why PL backed the kismayo mamuul, but it was wise to wash our hands off it.

 

[KULTA]

When someone mentions Jubbaland

 

[Tenacious]

This is the problem of backing people with an IQ of a orangutan. FFS, it was just couple of yrs ago I understand politically why PL backed the kismayo mamuul, but it was wise to wash our hands off it.



We will see what happens when KDF leaves

If your tol had an intellect they would have created JL. It was Madoobe who washed his hands off you traitors. JL is still standing. Keep laughing and hoping Kenya leaves. Your concern should be Isis who keep killing your pedophile so called military.

 

[BestCaseScenario]

Are you telling me the grandson of a man born in the early 1700s is alive, while the average descendant counts ~7-9 oday before reaching to Khalaf?

Remember, a relative can be near or distant. I don't have to state everything about my lineage. The khalaf is true. My relative was Ina Samatar Khalaf. I see no value in lying about my blood relatives. I can tell wilder stories that are true in my lineage also but there is no need for that.

I suffice it to say I have the blood of three in my DNA out of the list. Two of them 50% contribution each, the other 25%.

You should accept me as a Somali relative which is more important though.

 

[KULTA]

If your tol had an intellect they would have created JL. It was Madoobe who washed his hands off you traitors. JL is still standing. Keep laughing and hoping Kenya leaves. Your concern should be Isis who keep killing your pedophile so called military.

Whats the problem here?

 

[Thegoodshepherd]

If your tol had an intellect they would have created JL. It was Madoobe who washed his hands off you traitors. JL is still standing. Keep laughing and hoping Kenya leaves. Your concern should be Isis who keep killing your pedophile so called military.

There are literally no political conflicts between MJ and Ogaden. You can expect this level of hatred from a Hawiye, but from an Ogaden?

 

[Ferrari]

LOL, This Ferrari DUDE took it to a next level to my shock questioning MJ's ISLAMIC FAITH. This is fucked up bro. But as I said before, if someone insults your clan like I see here, all is fair. I am not going to intervene...

I am glad you all proved me right in my view of Somalis being FUCKED UP. And I notice you have good company in the condemnation, Your favorite and usual suspects - HG are with you. Whatever you folks have done, soomalidii kale soo kala dhamaada.


Go at it my man. Waxba ha iga siin waxaad ka heshaan.

When did I question their faith?

quote me. why don't u come out with it and say what you feel instead of beating around the bushes. nigga it's online, nobody knows it. don't be scared.

 

[Ferrari]

Look at this instigating trying divert the heat to other guy. @Ferrari is old school who doesn't mince his words, at least that's respectful. You're a passive aggressive instigating who questions people's upbringin. 'look at ferrari' kulaha nacalaa kugu yaal

When I am in the battle zone, I don't need a biased passive aggressive fuckboy to distract me.

give him sometime, he'll come out of it.
wassup with these niggas tho? they are all qabiilists masquerading as patriots.

 

[Ferrari]

You are a LIAR. JL had no backing from Xamar and yet not a single leader from Xamar was able to enter Kismayo without the say so of Madoobe, also, if anyone can truley say as why culuso had to recognize JL was because of pressure from IGAD and last I checked it was lead by Afey an OGADEN man. Secondly, the creation of JL began with Absame backing till mx ASKED to be part of it. Mx and mj had nothing to do with jl creation.
If mx and mj were politically savvy or had any strength THEY would have created an administration in JL before Madoobe entered the picture. Mahbuub, Afey, Gaandhi and Madoobe backed by the Ogadeen Politicians in Kenya made JL possible, not two weak clans who cant even fight Kenya, alshabab and Isis. I am sure you saw the video of Kenyans chasing boons in beled xaawo, and you are teaching me that THAT clan had anything to do with the creation of JL. like I said. You are DELUSIONAL.

Allow them. MX, who didn't even have gedo before 1979, want to majority representation in JL.
don't worry, let them talk all the talk. We haven't moved in inch in over 150 years in JL and that won't change. no matter how hard anyone tries.

 

[Marsin]

There are literally no political conflicts between MJ and Ogaden. You can expect this level of hatred from a Hawiye, but from an Ogaden?

god forbid

 

[Marsin]

Yall censoreds have to excuse my cousins here, they totally forgot how puntland stood side by side with us during the kismaayo clashes and how the brave people of puntland took care of our wounded soldiers, ilahay ha idiin barakeeyo.

 

[Cognitivedissonance]

Don't blame MSB. MJs were treacherous before he was even born. It's in your blood to be gaalo raac. embrace it garac yahoow.

Gaal raac your tribe mainly lives in Kenya and Ethiopia boowe you’re not a citizen of Somalia the federal government of Somalia will arrest you if you’re caught on Somalia territory and handed over to Ethiopia or Kenya

 

[DR OSMAN]

You are a LIAR. JL had no backing from Xamar and yet not a single leader from Xamar was able to enter Kismayo without the say so of Madoobe, also, if anyone can truley say as why culuso had to recognize JL was because of pressure from IGAD and last I checked it was lead by Afey an OGADEN man. Secondly, the creation of JL began with Absame backing till mx ASKED to be part of it. Mx and mj had nothing to do with jl creation.
If mx and mj were politically savvy or had any strength THEY would have created an administration in JL before Madoobe entered the picture. Mahbuub, Afey, Gaandhi and Madoobe backed by the Ogadeen Politicians in Kenya made JL possible, not two weak clans who cant even fight Kenya, alshabab and Isis. I am sure you saw the video of Kenyans chasing boons in beled xaawo, and you are teaching me that THAT clan had anything to do with the creation of JL. like I said. You are DELUSIONAL.

I guess you forgot sharmarke inu qaadidisa uu soo cabay Jubaland. Man Sharmarke was the key factor plus Gandhi. Madoobe waa loo yeeray and said we will let u rule jubaland but he never 'designed' jubaland, wuu dhaxlay keliya wixi loo dhiibay. U think madoobe designed the constitution or called all the odayaal beeleeed of JL together? Just because someone is President doesnt mean they created the state.

Let's not forget Gandhi and his Azania project remember had no backing and he was on his backside for years in Nairobi, it wasn't untill the kings of kings entered the picture SHARMARKE that JL really sped up and became to form a constitution and called all jubaland elders together to pass it through. That's when Madoobe was elected way after he never created shit. U do realize when u design a state that's when u decide on the powersharing mechanism. We secured ourselves the interior, kismayo mayor and the port key lifelines.

Sharmarke then told all the langaabs in PL to bow down to JL, The rest is history and JL is a FACT. HSM tried to f*ck around but he thought meeshu waa galmudug ama hirshabelle he learned the hard way.

JL creation can only be credited to Sharmarke and Gandhi and even then we need to analyze who was the godfather cause the idea came from Gandhi but he had no backing till the kings of kings joined in and started to really design a proper state. So it's really going to come down to both of them who the father of jubaland is and we will know by who gets the naming of a street and other iconic areas.

We already influenced the flag that's for sure, and the name 'jubbaland', it's structure looks identical to PL structure, with odayaal holding the govt up like a stage and the ppl on the stage are the govt and opposition. Strong foundation regardless what happens on the stage the foundation will always be there!!!

 

[Inquisitive_]

At least with HabadGedir what you see is what you get.

With the Majerteens what you have are pure munafiqs. People face wise that like to extend courtesies and diplomacies but with hidden malicious intent.

I don't know why they like to segregate themselves from HG when they are both morally not that different from each other

We are different on every single level, you can class Somali's into three distinct groups when it comes to clan's, you have the pacifists, cold blooded warriors and the Cunning (fitnah) group.

The fast majority of Somali clan's fall into the warfare group, while a few go into the pacifists groups (D&M, Gaderbise, Ciise, CadCad), Reer triangle fit mostly into the Cunning/Fitnah group as you can see on sspot as well as on the ground.

Each has it's benefits and drawbacks, the issue with HG is that they are by far the worst in that large group of warrior clan's because of offensive perpetual warfare doctrines which I am not a fan off, that's why along with MJ they are the most hated groups, this is all changing now with the new generation.

I don't know why people lump MJ together, everything bad that is said about them is because of reer triangle only, I can understand why, they had to develop cunning two face mastery in order to survive otherwise they would have gone extinct, it's the only way a non warrior clan can defeat a warrior clan.

To make it worse they have the most fierce warrior clan's surround them in all directions who don't really like them, the dhullo's in the north, HG in the south, to the west they have their confederate cousins and OG's, they only survived within the darood rank because of cunning divide/conquer tactics.

This strategy doesn't work with their southern neighbours, so whenever a dispute happens and foreign troops are not available to protect them like in the past, they pull out the emotional manipulative darood card, they will bring all the other darood warrior clan's to the front-line who as you expect unlike them would fight to the last man which would result in a stalemate, had they not done this throughout history, they would have gone extinct.

This collective group psychology must be understood in order to combat this effectively, if my brother is physically weaker then me and I keep beating him up, threatening him, humiliating him and there is nothing he can do to protect himself physically, he will develop whatever traits he can in order to counter me, you essentially drive him into the hand of the enemy, he would do anything he can to survive, because intense hatred, fear, revenge & grudges combine together to a form a powerful long lasting motivator that will outlast any motivations you have.

This explains why they are the loudest most hateful groups on her, why when it comes to boasting no one competes with them, why they regard C/Yusuf as a hero, why they come up with the most cunning politician's and why politics attracts the majority of their students which other Somali's shun, because these are the best means to fight back.

In the civil war the clan that suffered the greatest losses by far was mx (after the fall of MSB), no other clan even comes close, but you won't find them acting the same because they share that same warrior spirit (which induces confidence) as a result it's a forgive/forget.

It's the same story in that 4 months fierce conflict in Xamar between Hiraab (forgive/forget), to the point were Ali Mahdi walks in HG neighbourhoods with no one saying anything (vice versa), the same is happening between MX/OG in J/land, as well as MX/HG in Mudug, Xawaadle/OG in the border areas as well as with HG, this is all basic group psychology.

This is not to be mistaken with the individual psychology of the person because not everyone is the same, however even if the individual person has a different view from his group, once push comes to shove, the herd/group/tribe mentality will always dominate.

You see examples of this in the battle of Badr when some of the Pagan's didn't want to fight their own tribes men but because of the herd mentality and being called cowards by Abu Jahl, they ended up fighting anyway, the Prophet even pointed one of them out.

Ultimately we all share in this blame and this takes a couple of generations to fix, remember the greatest of all tribes the "Ansar" were feuding for centuries in perpetual warfare before the Prophet arrived, the Jewish tribes that surrounded them were always routed in warfare by those pagan warrior tribes, as a result they developed cunning tactics and nifaq as a counter measure.

This intense hatred even resulted in them siding with the Pagan Arab's of Mecca during the battle of Ahzab against the Prophet despite the treaty to protect their own city (Medina), they remembered all the battles they lost and the humiliations that ensued when they said after each loss "wait until our Prophet comes, we will finish you all off"

 

[DR OSMAN]

We are different on every single level, you can class Somali's into three distinct groups when it comes to clan's, you have the pacifists, cold blooded warriors and the Cunning (fitnah) group.

The fast majority of Somali clan's fall into the warfare group, while a few go into the pacifists groups (D&M, Gaderbise, Ciise, CadCad), Reer triangle fit mostly into the Cunning/Fitnah group as you can see on sspot as well as on the ground.

Each has it's benefits and drawbacks, the issue with HG is that they are by far the worst in that large group of warrior clan's because of offensive perpetual warfare doctrines which I am not a fan off, that's why along with MJ they are the most hated groups, this is all changing now with the new generation.

I don't know why people lump MJ together, everything bad that is said about them is because of reer triangle only, I can understand why, they had to develop cunning two face mastery in order to survive otherwise they would have gone extinct, it's the only way a non warrior clan can defeat a warrior clan.

To make it worse they have the most fierce warrior clan's surround them in all directions who don't really like them, the dhullo's in the north, HG in the south, to the west they have their confederate cousins and OG's, they only survived within the darood rank because of cunning divide/conquer tactics.

This strategy doesn't work with their southern neighbours, so whenever a dispute happens and foreign troops are not available to protect them like in the past, they pull out the emotional manipulative darood card, they will bring all the other darood warrior clan's to the front-line who as you expect unlike them would fight to the last man which would result in a stalemate, had they not done this throughout history, they would have gone extinct.

This collective group psychology must be understood in order to combat this effectively, if my brother is physically weaker then me and I keep beating him up, threatening him, humiliating him and there is nothing he can do to protect himself physically, he will develop whatever traits he can in order to counter me, you essentially drive him into the hand of the enemy, he would do anything he can to survive, because intense hatred, fear, revenge & grudges combine together to a form a powerful long lasting motivator that will outlast any motivations you have.

This explains why they are the loudest most hateful groups on her, why when it comes to boasting no one competes with them, why they regard C/Yusuf as a hero, why they come up with the most cunning politician's and why politics attracts the majority of their students which other Somali's shun, because these are the best means to fight back.

In the civil war the clan that suffered the greatest losses by far was mx (after the fall of MSB), no other clan even comes close, but you won't find them acting the same because they share that same warrior spirit (which induces confidence) as a result it's a forgive/forget.

It's the same story in that 4 months fierce conflict in Xamar between Hiraab (forgive/forget), to the point were Ali Mahdi walks in HG neighbourhoods with no one saying anything (vice versa), the same is happening between MX/OG in J/land, as well as MX/HG in Mudug, Xawaadle/OG in the border areas as well as with HG, this is all basic group psychology.

This is not to be mistaken with the individual psychology of the person because not everyone is the same, however even if the individual person has a different view from his group, once push comes to shove, the herd/group/tribe mentality will always dominate.

You see examples of this in the battle of Badr when some of the Pagan's didn't want to fight their own tribes men but because of the herd mentality and being called cowards by Abu Jahl, they ended up fighting anyway, the Prophet even pointed one of them out.

Ultimately we all share in this blame and this takes a couple of generations to fix, remember the greatest of all tribes the "Ansar" were feuding for centuries in perpetual warfare before the Prophet arrived, the Jewish tribes that surrounded them were always routed in warfare by those pagan warrior tribes, as a result they developed cunning tactics and nifaq as a counter measure.

This intense hatred even resulted in them siding with the Pagan Arab's of Mecca during the battle of Ahzab against the Prophet despite the treaty to protect their own city (Medina), they remembered all the battles they lost and the humiliations that ensued when they said after each loss "wait until our Prophet comes we will finish you all"

Dammit when I see these type of essays, I wonder to myself dont u hate reading it, imagine what ppl think of my essays. I will be working hard to reduce everything to a paragraph or two. But I will read it inquisitive!!!

 

[BestCaseScenario]

We are different on every single level, you can class Somali's into three distinct groups when it comes to clan's, you have the pacifists, cold blooded warriors and the Cunning (fitnah) group.

The fast majority of Somali clan's fall into the warfare group, while a few go into the pacifists groups (D&M, Gaderbise, Ciise, CadCad), Reer triangle fit mostly into the Cunning/Fitnah group as you can see on sspot as well as on the ground.

Each has it's benefits and drawbacks, the issue with HG is that they are by far the worst in that large group of warrior clan's because of offensive perpetual warfare doctrines which I am not a fan off, that's why along with MJ they are the most hated groups, this is all changing now with the new generation.

I don't know why people lump MJ together, everything bad that is said about them is because of reer triangle only, I can understand why, they had to develop cunning two face mastery in order to survive otherwise they would have gone extinct, it's the only way a non warrior clan can defeat a warrior clan.

To make it worse they have the most fierce warrior clan's surround them in all directions who don't really like them, the dhullo's in the north, HG in the south, to the west they have their confederate cousins and OG's, they only survived within the darood rank because of cunning divide/conquer tactics.

This strategy doesn't work with their southern neighbours, so whenever a dispute happens and foreign troops are not available to protect them like in the past, they pull out the emotional manipulative darood card, they will bring all the other darood warrior clan's to the front-line who as you expect unlike them would fight to the last man which would result in a stalemate, had they not done this throughout history, they would have gone extinct.

This collective group psychology must be understood in order to combat this effectively, if my brother is physically weaker then me and I keep beating him up, threatening him, humiliating him and there is nothing he can do to protect himself physically, he will develop whatever traits he can in order to counter me, you essentially drive him into the hand of the enemy, he would do anything he can to survive, because intense hatred, fear, revenge & grudges combine together to a form a powerful long lasting motivator that will outlast any motivations you have.

This explains why they are the loudest most hateful groups on her, why when it comes to boasting no one competes with them, it's also why they come up with the most cunning politician's and why politics attracts the majority of their students which other Somali's shun.

In the civil war the clan that suffered the greatest losses by far was mx (after the fall of MSB), no other clan even comes close, but you won't find them acting the same because they share that same warrior spirit (which induces confidence) as a result it's a forgive/forget.

It's the same story in that 4 months fierce conflict in Xamar between Hiraab (forgive/forget), to the point were Ali Mahdi walks in HG neighbourhoods with no one saying anything (vice versa), the same is happening between MX/OG in J/land, as well as MX/HG in Mudug, Xawaadle/OG in the border areas as well as with HG

However the weaker sibling who doesn't have that warrior spirit and is therefore usually bereft of the confidence such a spirit induces, will never forgive nor forget, he will take this animosity to the grave regardless whatever reconciliation takes place, he won't be happy until your completely exterminated by any means necessary, this is why they see C/Yusuf as a hero.

Ultimately we all share in this blame and this takes a couple of generations to fix, remember the greatest of all tribes the "Ansar" were feuding for centuries in perpetual warfare before the Prophet arrived, the Jewish tribes that surrounded them were always routed in warfare by those pagan warrior tribes, as a result they developed cunning tactics and nifaq as a counter measure.

This intense hatred even resulted in them siding with the Pagan Arab's of Mecca during the battle of Ahzab against the Prophet despite the treaty to protect their own city (Medina), they remembered all the battles they lost and the humiliations that ensued when they said after each loss "wait until our Prophet comes we will finish you all"

Anytime you point the finger at a clan and collectively define their supposed characteristics, you are wrong saxib. Granted there are individuals anywhere fadhi ku dirir who belong to a clan and speak their mind, it shouldn't be that all their respective clans share similar traits. Every clan has loser members but majority are good folks.

They are your perennial neighbors, and you got issues with a sub clan of them like all clan neighbors do in Somalia, so out of all other Somali clans and sub clans, you should be more respectful to them for the shared blood and history between you two.

You are supposed to defend them for your understanding of them and knowing the history. Not the opposite. Not good on you to come across as bitter about them.