Oromo Borana girl claims to be originally Dir after her father scores rare Y-DNA Haplogroup T1

[Apollo]

Are agews connected to axum? If so oromos has nothing to do with them since oromos are new arrivals from Northern kenya.

Look up the concept of language shifts and elite cultural dominance.

Language and culture can change while the people are still more or less the same as the former inhabitants (Hungary, Anatolia, Maghreb etc)

 

[ሕጊ።።]

That's because they're too busy claiming Habesha and licking Amhara butts.

In what way do they do that.

The city the whole of Ethiopia knows to be the most Oromo nationalistic is in Shewa.

 

[Marsin]

In what way do they do that.

The city the whole of Ethiopia knows to be the most Oromo nationalistic is in Shewa.

Jimma right? Well yeah the "nationalistic " oromos are licking the butt of the amharas in todays politic situation of Ethiopia.

 

[ሕጊ።።]

Jimma right? Well yeah the "nationalistic " oromos are licking the butt of the amharas in todays politic situation of Ethiopia.

No not Jimma, that's outside of Shewa.
The town I was on about is Ambo.

 

[Prince Abubu]

In what way do they do that.

The city the whole of Ethiopia knows to be the most Oromo nationalistic is in Shewa.

Of course those Oromo are pro-ethiopia, because Amhara are pro-ethiopia.

 

[anonimo]

Are agews connected to axum? If so oromos has nothing to do with them since oromos are new arrivals from Northern kenya.

They are not recent arrivals bro. The lived in Southern Ethiopia and gradually expanded. They had managed to become the numerically dominant ethnic group thanks to their Gada system, martial culture and open attitude to assimilation. The Oromos of today are nothing like their war-like ancestors of years gone by. It is only recently that the Habash and Somalis have gained the upper hand over the Oromo but the best land in the Horn still belongs to them. Somalis better fix up because the Oromos will not be cowering for long.

 

[ሕጊ።።]

Of course those Oromo are pro-ethiopia, because Amhara are pro-ethiopia.

I didn't mean nationalists for Ethiopia. I meant nationalists for Oromia and are very supportive of OLF.

 

[Marsin]

They are not recent arrivals bro. The lived in Southern Ethiopia and gradually expanded. They had managed to become the numerically dominant ethnic group thanks to their Gada system, martial culture and open attitude to assimilation. The Oromos of today are nothing like their war-like ancestors of years gone by. It is only recently that the Habash and Somalis have gained the upper hand over the Oromo but the best land in the Horn still belongs to them. Somalis better fix up because the Oromos will not be cowering for long.

They were nothing compared to us then and they are nothing compared to us now, Absame alone killed their leader and pushed them to where they border us today.

 

[anonimo]

During the Oromo expansion they forced some somali clans to be oromos so they could be safe from the machete.

Some have identified with Oromo due to language shift and intermarriage like the Hawiye and Barsuug. Furthermore, we are our own worst enemy. A lot of the Hawiye have sided with the Oromo due to conflict with the Ogaden and Ciise. Think long term Cuz!

 

[Prince Abubu]

I didn't mean nationalists for Ethiopia. I meant nationalists for Oromia and are very supportive of OLF.

I'm not an expert, but I've only met a few pro-ethiopia Oromos and all of them were from the regions near the Amhara. All other Oromos I met are Muslims from Dire Dawa, Jigjiga, Herer etc.

 

[Gbyallmeans]

They were nothing compared to us then and they are nothing compared to us now, Absame alone killed their leader and pushed them to where they border us today.

Horta are you Marsinqorahay from Somnet???

 

[Marsin]

Some have identified with Oromo due to language shift and intermarriage like the Hawiye and Barsuug. Furthermore, we are our own worst enemy. A lot of the Hawiye have sided with the Oromo due to conflict with the Ogaden and Ciise. Think long term Cuz!

Those hawiye karanle are a very small number, they are also the reason for why we lost babile in 2004.

Today they are the ones who suffers the most in this conflict and they brought it on their own.

What was the exactly reason for them to choose to be part of oromia state?

 

[Marsin]

Horta are you Marsinqorahay from Somnet???

Que paso geeljire

 

[anonimo]

They were nothing compared to us then and they are nothing compared to us now, Absame alone killed their leader and pushed them to where they border us today.

I know Absame killed Gaal Gurey but those Jijiga Oromos were a fraction of the greater Oromo nation. Even the Ogaden, Degoodi, Garre, Murulle, Mareexaan expansion into Oromo territory in Southern Somalia, Northern kenya and Southern Ethiopia occurred in the 19th century at a time when there were divisions within the Oromo. They also did not have guns, and some such as the Orma had been weakened by Smallpox. History will not always favour us and if we are not prepared, the roles will be reversed.

No one subclan is strong enough to counter a resurgent Oromo. United We Stand, Divided We Fall!

 

[Gbyallmeans]

Que paso geeljire

So are you bro or not, because if yes you have mellowed down???

 

[Marsin]

So are you bro or not, because if yes you have mellowed down???

Waabad aragta that my name is marsin, what do you mean mellowed down?

 

[anonimo]

They were nothing compared to us then and they are nothing compared to us now, Absame alone killed their leader and pushed them to where they border us today.

Come on Marsin. The beef they had with you guys is one of the reasons why they voted to become part of the Oromo State. Some of the Jaarso also voted to become part of the Oromo Zone because they felt marginalised in the Somali Zone. An appeasement strategy is the best policy to have in order to counter the Oromo ambitions in Zone 5.

 

[Sophisticate]

T1a is found all over East Africa. It has nothing to do with the Dir, unless the Dir have a specified sub-clade and it is that one (zero chance in any non-Somali group).

We know it's not unique to Dir. Thing is there are various cases of Oromo absorbing Dir tribes (in recent history). T1a, though possible to find among the Oromo, is not common among their kind.

 

[Gbyallmeans]

Waabad aragta that my name is marsin, what do you mean mellowed down?

That marsin in Somnet was Hardcore Ogadeni with an file mouth, an expert some say at his niche of Bashing-Isaaqs, anyway so far based on your posts here, you seem to have become softer in terms of Defending Tolka OG's and attacking Somalilanders.

Anyway what brings you here???

 

[Marsin]

Come on Marsin. The beef they had with you guys is one of the reasons why they voted to become part of the Oromo State. Some of the Jaarso also voted to become part of the Oromo Zone because they felt marginalised in the Somali Zone. An appeasement strategy is the best policy to have in order to counter the Oromo ambitions in Zone 5.

Bro during those days ogadens political agenda was mostly dominated by ONLF ideology, we had nothing to do with the kilil politics expect for a few puppets who is nothing compared to today' kilil 5.