Nimko Ali, prominent somalilander, is exposed

[nine]

Dont be stupid. Somalilanders dont care about Mareehan really. Most have never even met one in real life, but we have cordial relations

We are peaceful people. We just want our independence. That's all.

You can have the South, we have the North

@Yonis
I think that Isaaq majority territory should be granted independence. If they have an appetite for non Isaaq territory, then we should call up Mudane General Morgan.

Yes, a mareehan friend of mine was telling me a story about a drought in Berbera in the 80s and how Siad Barre helped the victims by flying them from Berbera to the jubba valley were they started farms and started new life in the fertile south. Incredible acts of kindness and they still hate and despise Mareehan and Siad Barre, its really baffling right

It was in the famous 1974 drought. It wasnt just Isaaq refugees but reer waqooyi in general including Dhulbahante and Gudabiirsi

It was in order to populate the unpopulated regions in the south with low population

SLers could bring business and investment

But most left after a few months because the area was too underdeveloped. They were used to being near Hargeisa, Burco, Berbera, Boorama, Las Anod. Big cities and towns.

That is why there are no reer waqooyi in the South today

I hope SL starts an outreach programme in Jubadda Hoose to bring democracy and development there soon. And also to teach Af Soomaali faseex (original Af Somali aka reer Waqooyi)

Did you know that Gedo was underdeveloped even in the 70s and 80s? It would take around 3 days to drive from Jubbada Hoose to Gedo because the highway wasn't paved. And here we have @Futurist telling us that the refugees went back to their territories because the Juba Valley was mainly underdeveloped.

 

[World]

It was in the famous 1974 drought. It wasnt just Isaaq refugees but reer waqooyi in general including Dhulbahante and Gudabiirsi

It was in order to populate the unpopulated regions in the south with low population

SLers could bring business and investment

But most left after a few months because the area was too underdeveloped. They were used to being near Hargeisa, Burco, Berbera, Boorama, Las Anod. Big cities and towns.

That is why there are no reer waqooyi in the South today

I hope SL starts an outreach programme in Jubadda Hoose to bring democracy and development there soon. And also to teach Af Soomaali faseex (original Af Somali aka reer Waqooyi)

No we still live in middle juba only you isaaq left.

 

[Futurist]

Yes, a mareehan friend of mine was telling me a story about a drought in Berbera in the 80s and how Siad Barre helped the victims by flying them from Berbera to the jubba valley were they started farms and started new life in the fertile south. Incredible acts of kindness and they still hate and despise Mareehan and Siad Barre, its really baffling right

This was part of one of Afweyne's insidious tactics, to split up Somaliland people across regions. He was a very conniving evil man

He wanted to use tax revenues from Berbera port and Hargeisa the second biggest city to build southern regions

 

[nine]

This was part of one of Afweyne's insidious tactics, to split up Somaliland people across regions. He was a very conniving evil man

He wanted to use tax revenues from Berbera port and Hargeisa the second biggest city to build Jubba Valley

You guys had the second largest city and the Berbera port, along with settlement in the Juba Valley. Even OGs from K5 were settled in Jubbooyinka
Mareexaan got the underdeveloped Gedo region and Kismaayo (a shared city where MJ were the most populous clan).

 

[Futurist]

No we still live in middle juba only you isaaq left.

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You are misinterpreting the data

You see after the Afweyne dictatorship fell in Mogadishu. Hawiye militias and Daarood militias clashed in the city. The Hawiye militias eventually won and evicted the Darood population from Mogadishu also. They targetted everyone, including innocent Daarood civilians AUN who then fled to Kismaayo and the Kenyan border areas. Civilians on all sides were affected AUN

This is why there is a small pockets of Dhulbahante and MJ in Kismaayo and lots in Nairobi/Dadaab

 

[World]

You guys had the second largest city and the Berbera port, along with settlement in the Juba Valley. Even OGs from K5 were settled in Jubbooyinka
Mareexaan got the underdeveloped Gedo region and Kismaayo (a shared city where MJ were the most populous clan).

Siad barre was a nationalist these guys are liars, he didn’t even build a single road in gedo or help his clansmen.

 

[nine]

You are misinterpreting the data

You see after the Afweyne dictatorship fell in Mogadishu. Hawiye militias and Daarood militias clashed in the city. The Hawiye militias eventually won and evicted the Darood population from Mogadishu also. They targetted everyone, including innocent Daarood civilians AUN who then fled to Kismaayo and the Kenyan border areas

This is why there is a small pockets of Dhulbahante and MJ in Kismaayo and lots in Nairobi/Dadaab

Nope. Dhulbahante, Majeerteen, Ogaadeen, Mareexaan and others have a long history in Kismaayo.

 

[World]

You are misinterpreting the data

You see after the Afweyne dictatorship fell in Mogadishu. Hawiye militias and Daarood militias clashed in the city. The Hawiye militias eventually won and evicted the Darood population from Mogadishu also. They targetted everyone, including innocent Daarood civilians AUN who then fled to Kismaayo and the Kenyan border areas

This is why there is a small pockets of Dhulbahante and MJ in Kismaayo and lots in Nairobi/Dadaab

What do you know about southern somalia? You are an ignorable idoor.

Dhulbahante and Majerteen have been living in jubbaland for over 100 years. My mums family is waamo harti that fled there during the dervish wars.

 

[nine]

What do you know about southern somalia? You are an ignorable idoor.

Dhulbahante and Majerteen have been living in jubbaland for over 100 years. My mums family is waamo harti that fled there during the dervish wars.

in the latter half of the 19th century, Somali pastoralists from the Marehan Ethiopia Marehan Darod clan settled in Kismayos interior. The city subsequently evolved into a hub of the livestock trade. The main ogaden representatives to establish themselves in Kismayo were Ise, in the first two decades of the 20th century, during Mohammed Abdullah Hassans Dervish resistance, members of the Dhulbahante Harti sub-clan followed suit.

https://wikivisually.com/wiki/Italian_Trans-Juba

 

[Futurist]

Siad barre was a nationalist these guys are liars, he didn’t even build a single road in gedo or help his clansmen.

That is because there was no economic case for building roads in Gedo. Roads to where exactly? There are no big cities, no large factories. Roads are built based on economic facts, not whims or nepotism.

It is well known that with the advent of the Afweyne dictatorial regime there was nepotism the like of which the world had never seen before. Booli qaran. That is why lots of people from the ruling dictatorial regime had land and houses in Mogadishu, Kismaayo, Hargeisa. All these new assets for the dictatorship's nouveau riche appeared overnight. It was an incredible rags to riches story. But the xaaraam wealth did not last in the end. After all, injustice never wins in the end, as we all now know.

The only thing bigger than Afweyne's mouth was his ambition, hunger for power and desire for wealth. By any means necessary. Even if that meant distroying his own country and people

 

[World]

in the latter half of the 19th century, Somali pastoralists from the Marehan Ethiopia Marehan Darod clan settled in Kismayos interior. The city subsequently evolved into a hub of the livestock trade. The main ogaden representatives to establish themselves in Kismayo were Ise, in the first two decades of the 20th century, during Mohammed Abdullah Hassans Dervish resistance, members of the Dhulbahante Harti sub-clan followed suit.

https://wikivisually.com/wiki/Italian_Trans-Juba

After sade, absame and raxanweyn, harti have the most representation in jubbaland parliament.

 

[nine]

@Futurist Are you serious? Gedo has over half a million people. It is right next to Kenya and Ethiopia and Doolow is close to where the Juba Valley starts. It is an underdeveloped region. You telling us that we don't need roads in Gedo because there is no city with atleast 1 million people there?
He had cousins who were reer baadiyo aswell FOH

 

[Futurist]

in the latter half of the 19th century, Somali pastoralists from the Marehan Ethiopia Marehan Darod clan settled in Kismayos interior. The city subsequently evolved into a hub of the livestock trade. The main ogaden representatives to establish themselves in Kismayo were Ise, in the first two decades of the 20th century, during Mohammed Abdullah Hassans Dervish resistance, members of the Dhulbahante Harti sub-clan followed suit.

https://wikivisually.com/wiki/Italian_Trans-Juba

This is a very interesting hypothesis. Let's assume for argument's sake it's true.

Why is there no continuous Dhulbahante population from Sool through to Kismaayo? Surely the demographic pattern shows a far more recent arrival

 

[World]

That is because there was no economic case for building roads in Gedo. Roads to where exactly? There are no big cities, no large factories. Roads are built based on economic facts, not whims or nepotism.

It is well known that with the advent of the Afweyne dictatorial regime there was nepotism the like of which the world had never seen before. Booli qaran. That is why lots of people from the ruling dictatorial regime had land and houses in Mogadishu, Kismaayo, Hargeisa. All these new assets for the dictatorship's nouveau riche appeared overnight. It was an incredible rags to riches story. But the xaaraam wealth did not last in the end. After all, injustice never wins in the end, as we all now know.

The only thing bigger than Afweyne's mouth was his ambition, hunger for power and desire for wealth. By any means necessary. Even if that meant distroying his own country and people

Idoors wish they were blessed like marehan are with gedo.

 

[father of the camel]

It was in the famous 1974 drought. It wasnt just Isaaq refugees but reer waqooyi in general including Dhulbahante and Gudabiirsi

It was in order to populate the unpopulated regions in the south with low population

SLers could bring business and investment

But most left after a few months because the area was too underdeveloped. They were used to being near Hargeisa, Burco, Berbera, Boorama, Las Anod. Big cities and towns.

That is why there are no reer waqooyi in the South today

I hope SL starts an outreach programme in Jubadda Hoose to bring democracy and development there soon. And also to teach Af Soomaali faseex (original Af Somali aka reer Waqooyi)

Warya keep your hunno hunno amhaara dialect somali to yourself .jubbada doesnt need that .

 

[Futurist]

@Futurist Are you serious? Gedo has over half a million people. It is right next to Kenya and Ethiopia and Doolow is close to where the Juba Valley starts. It is an underdeveloped region. You telling us that we don't need roads in Gedo because there is no city with atleast 1 million people there?
He had cousins who were reer baadiyo aswell FOH

That is not what i said. Re read carefully. I merely pointed out that in a country like Somalia there are scare capital resources, that incidentally were being misappropriated by the ruling dictatorship. The ruling government prioritised Mogadishu over all other places in the country, even if the ruling individuals and their relatives enriched themselves. It was their fatal error in the end.

Economically it made sense to build the road from Mogadishu to Hargeisa because of economics and because Hargeisa and Berbera were big tax generating areas. A road to Garbahaarey made less sense. Surely you see that?

 

[World]

This is a very interesting hypothesis. Let's assume for argument's sake it's true.

Why is there no continuous Dhulbahante population from Sool through to Kismaayo? Surely the demographic pattern shows a far more recent arrival

There is no continous Habar Younis population from Waqooyi Galbeed to Sanaag either, what a stupid argument.

 

[nine]

This is a very interesting hypothesis. Let's assume for argument's sake it's true.

Why is there no continuous Dhulbahante population from Sool through to Kismaayo? Surely the demographic pattern shows a far more recent arrival

Are you serious?? Daaroods spread out and migrated. We never sat in one place. Mareexaan are present in the Galdogob district and Kismaayo. So using your logic, Mareexaan are newcomers aswell, since there is no continuous population of them up to Galdogob district. The same can be applied to MJs.

 

[Futurist]

Idoors wish they were blessed like marehan are with gedo.

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maaashllah I wish all the best for Gedo

 

[Futurist]

Are you serious?? Daaroods spread out and migrated. We never sat in one place. Mareexaan are present in the Galdogob district and Kismaayo. So using your logic, Mareexaan are newcomers aswell, since there is no continuous population of them up to Galdogob district. The same can be applied to MJs.

Yes that is true. OGs have continues population, as do pockets of Dir so they have been there very long. MX have been there also for some time, but more recently

The ast to arrive were MJ and DH are all relatively recent arrivals to Kismaayo. If you deny this you are lying to yourself. The facts and evidence of demographics speaks for itself