Here's an interesting tool http://phylogeographer.com/scripts/diversitymap.php that can be used to analyze the frequency and diversity of J1-FGC11 to theorize in earnest about it's origin.
The above site go into concluding that:
" By comparing this frequency map against ancestor J1-FGC11, we see that every local maximum outside of the Arabian peninsula, but also including the one in Oman, is attributed to descendants of the single much younger (Iron Age) descendant, J1-FGC1707.
Notably, the one significant hotspot of J1-FGC11 that is absent in J1-FGC1707 is western Yemen, the Jizan, Asir and Najran regions of Saudi Arabia bordering it, and southern Eritrea.
If we count the J1-FGC11 who are not J1-FGC1707, we get a significantly different ratio between Saudi and Yemen origin men:
660 / 4036 = 16.4% of men tracing to Saudi Arabia are J1-FGC11(xFGC1707)
186 / 546 = 34.1% of men tracing to Yemen are J1-FGC11(xFGC1707)
After all, the question of the geographic origin of J1-FGC11 is not simply Saudi Arabia vs Yemen or other modern country – these boundaries are more recent political constructs.
The relative frequency hotspot of J1-FGC11, excluding younger J1-FGC1707, is the geography around western Yemen and Jizan, Asir and Najran provinces of Saudi Arabia.
In this very cursory overview I observed that a major local maximum of relative frequency (especially after excluding the major founder effect of J1-FGC1707) aligns with the major local maximum of diversity. This could be indicative of an origin of J1-FGC11 in western Yemen, Jizan, Asir and Najran provinces of Saudi Arabia or an ancient co-migration to this area "
There are no J1 found in neolithic samples.
J1 conquered Arabia in the Bronze Age, like R1b conquered Western Europe in the Bronze Age, both originally moved from around the Caspian Sea with similar CHG_Iran components.
The majority of Saudi sample are Haplogroup J1 making up more than 51%. Frequencies for the main sub-haplogroups are;
J-FGC11 dominates at 80.85%
J-Z640 at 4.49%
J-YSC76 at 3.67%
J-ZS5383 at 3.6%
J-FGC4745 at 2.4%
J
-L860 at 1.49%
four consecutive basal layers of J-P58 being found in Yemen/Arabia : J-Y4067, J-Z643*(xL93, Z1865), J-L93 and J-L860
obviously more ancient samples are needed from Saudi and Yemen specially to come to a definitive conclusion.
i've noticed that there's not one single Pharaoh of Egypt is found to be a Carrier of Haplogroup T. You'll find them to be E, G, H, J, & R as far as what is publicly available.
The pharaoh of musa-AS was not Rameses II a haplogroup E1b1b, but Tuthmosis III whose Grandfather was haplogroup J1a Tuthmosis I --> TT320-CCG61065 - Valley of the Kings
The above site go into concluding that:
" By comparing this frequency map against ancestor J1-FGC11, we see that every local maximum outside of the Arabian peninsula, but also including the one in Oman, is attributed to descendants of the single much younger (Iron Age) descendant, J1-FGC1707.
Notably, the one significant hotspot of J1-FGC11 that is absent in J1-FGC1707 is western Yemen, the Jizan, Asir and Najran regions of Saudi Arabia bordering it, and southern Eritrea.
If we count the J1-FGC11 who are not J1-FGC1707, we get a significantly different ratio between Saudi and Yemen origin men:
660 / 4036 = 16.4% of men tracing to Saudi Arabia are J1-FGC11(xFGC1707)
186 / 546 = 34.1% of men tracing to Yemen are J1-FGC11(xFGC1707)
After all, the question of the geographic origin of J1-FGC11 is not simply Saudi Arabia vs Yemen or other modern country – these boundaries are more recent political constructs.
The relative frequency hotspot of J1-FGC11, excluding younger J1-FGC1707, is the geography around western Yemen and Jizan, Asir and Najran provinces of Saudi Arabia.
In this very cursory overview I observed that a major local maximum of relative frequency (especially after excluding the major founder effect of J1-FGC1707) aligns with the major local maximum of diversity. This could be indicative of an origin of J1-FGC11 in western Yemen, Jizan, Asir and Najran provinces of Saudi Arabia or an ancient co-migration to this area "
There are no J1 found in neolithic samples.
J1 conquered Arabia in the Bronze Age, like R1b conquered Western Europe in the Bronze Age, both originally moved from around the Caspian Sea with similar CHG_Iran components.
The majority of Saudi sample are Haplogroup J1 making up more than 51%. Frequencies for the main sub-haplogroups are;
J-FGC11 dominates at 80.85%
J-Z640 at 4.49%
J-YSC76 at 3.67%
J-ZS5383 at 3.6%
J-FGC4745 at 2.4%
J
-L860 at 1.49%
four consecutive basal layers of J-P58 being found in Yemen/Arabia : J-Y4067, J-Z643*(xL93, Z1865), J-L93 and J-L860
obviously more ancient samples are needed from Saudi and Yemen specially to come to a definitive conclusion.
i've noticed that there's not one single Pharaoh of Egypt is found to be a Carrier of Haplogroup T. You'll find them to be E, G, H, J, & R as far as what is publicly available.
The pharaoh of musa-AS was not Rameses II a haplogroup E1b1b, but Tuthmosis III whose Grandfather was haplogroup J1a Tuthmosis I --> TT320-CCG61065 - Valley of the Kings
since when?
