Af Urur has Tinle cidans there, the town was never attacked since 2014 shiishiye do hit and run from the mountains retreat the moment they get shelled try another one chief.
Markus Ho-ehne Discussion On PL/SL/SSC Conflict
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You wrong here, AY went south cause xamar was in jungle. ICU used to attack ethiopia in media and had war with PL in Mudug in 2004 or 2003.
Main point ICU had many enemy's from their aggressive actions.
USA had issue to fight talibaan in mountains, requesting help its ok in this case.
Cadde was great leader wariya, dont ever try to disrespect him.
PSF forces went deep in mountains before couple of days. Inshalla they will finish them off.
Recently PL army killed Alkabab rats in mountains. both whom were killed from ethiopia.
From where you bring this info?. PL army killed recently ISIS soldiers came from ethiopia.
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The shabab and ISIS in Puntland use the same weapons that their cousins from puntland smuggle from others terrorists in the middle east and sell to local terrorists all over Somalia. This was detail in a recent report. Talk about shooting yourself in the foot
Puntlanders make good money from being the main suppliers of arms and explosives trade in Somalia. The federal government needs to control this rogue criminal state
PL never existed 100 years ago as it's a state founded by your dead uncle AY in 1998 as Harti state and The one you're talking about is Maheertaniya kingdom which didn't include much of eastern Sanaag or Sool.
Is true SL was the first place where nationalism and somaliweyn movement took place especially after Hawd reserve area was given to Ethiopia and SYL btw was never interested to unite with SL right away but wait for a period of 5 to 10 years for both territories to unite but with the constant pressure and demand of SL delegation in Xamar SYL had to agree to it when the delegation didn't put any precondition on the table allowing southern SYL to get most of the top positions in a independent Somali Republic as for SL people a united somali nation was more important for them than a governmental positions
Also AY tried to overthrew Kacaan regime by inviting the Ethiopian army to invade Somalia in 1982
He has said in his interviews that he was arrested for an indefinite time because he refused to have the flag of Ethiopia raised in those towns which i do believe but what exactly else was he expecting when both towns have always been on the Ethiopian side of the disputed border?
@Periplus as a neutral, what are your thoughts?
Maybe but it was more of power struggle within SSDF that led to his arrest where the faction favored by mengistu was installed to the leadership. You have to know that SSDF was so close to the Derg regime who armed them and funded them alongside Gaddafi Libya while SNM was more independent getting its funds from diaspora and local business people
The pre emptive strike on Goldogob and Caabudwaaq was some form of Aano qabiil after the 79 Mudug attacks, i think the anti AY elements in SSDF pushed it to happen and convinced him the Ethiopians would guard the rear from Wardheer. He doesn't recall as an invasion attempt.
He and SSDF wanted to use Ethiopia to overhrow the regime in Xamar and that failed as SNA forces held them back and ofc he doesn't see it as an invasion attempt cuz both and mengistu wanted to get rid of Afweyne as fast as possible especially since Somalia was team USA during the cold war
The forum clown @Gantaal97 is talking out of his ass as per usual. Abdullahi Yusuf aun was arrested because of the Isaaq informants in the SSDF. A group of them first set Abdullahi Yusuf up to be assassinated and then others shared with Mengistu the SSDF’s plans with the Libyan’s which included leaving Ethiopia and relocating to Tripoli. This plus the normalization of relations between Addis and Mogadishu were why Abdullahi Yusuf and other members of the SSDF were arrested. Everything I wrote is repeated in the video below by a member of the SSDF who was arrested in Ethiopia a few months after Abdullahi Yusuf was.
Gantaal would have use believe the SNM were “independent” and funded by the Isaaq “diaspora and business community” even though they were highly dependent on Ethiopia. It was the base of their operations and the SNM were receiving funding from them until at least 1988. Sounds very independent to me.
He’s now on my ignore list too. He’s a typical brain dead khathead.
First time i'm hearing this, will check it out. Thanks for sharing. I heard AY mention SNM chairman Si.ilaanyo refused to unite with him because they were already planning to secede.
Majeertanya lies don't work anymore sister SSDF had no comprehensive vision for Somalia after the kacaan regime as it was dominated by former military officers and a ideological communist faction who wanted to continue the kind of junta that existed in 1969 but slightly different that's most of them defected to the regime and given govt posts after their supposed demands was met.
Your aunt Sureer Abshir Muuse co founder of SSDF appointed to work in Somalia's London embassy here's her defending the kacaan regime
While SNM which had clear goals for somali nation after deposing the regime they never got close to mengistu or harbor any communist ideology and they only operated in their deegans in Hawd which was the main military camp for the movement and every isaaq diaspora had to send money through dahabshiil founder previous hawala to fund the movement and it was collected from every sub no one could have denied that as elders pushed for Isaaqs to keep sending money as was a truly a liberation war struggle for us.
I watched that interview. AY said Siilaanyo and other elements of the SNM were seeking independence because of 1961 referendum. Faroole said the same thing.
He made that up here's what former SNM member has to say about this
You have to keep in mind restoring Somaliland independence was never on the SNM agenda as everyone in the movement wanted to overthrew the regime and establish a new Somali democratic system as unity was still popular but the events of xamar 1991 is what led to finally broke away from the rest of Somalia
