You are clearly wrong according all sorts of historical sources taking into account the fact they literally had a period where warlords fought for control. They wasted a considerable amount of time on qabil and it took quite a bit of effort on getting rid of clans (hundreds of years ago of course). Had Siad Barre not resorted to qabil it's more than likely we wouldn't be seeing this sort of shit. Also they're in a developed country why the f*ck would they be fighting about clans? Last time they had them was century's ago.
Yes, I
somewhat agree with what your saying, but you're being disingenuous when you're tying the entire demise of a country to a single politician. Of coarse Siad Barre was a war-criminal qabilist, but where does this derive from? Wasn't the entire country using their Qabil to favor themselves? Don't get me wrong, Presidency and politicians are very powerful positions one can have, but can you agree that the culture has a major part to play in this too? And yes, I would agree it's not Somalis fault since we were nomads not too long ago and the very thought of nationhood came very late to us. So I agree to disagree.
Indeed, East Asian philosophy does promote behaviours such as being humble and hardworking (you can say the same about most cultures) but this doesn't make it inherent to a population. Japan got nuked twice and received similar support that much of western Europe got under the Marshall plan, I can guarantee Somalia wouldn't be in the situation it was if it got the same treatment. We didn't receive the amount of aid they did and their state building projects at the time were a literal joke (see Iraq).
No, it wouldn't. You literally stated that politicians are corrupt power-hungry animals, what would change if we received the same amount of help? Wouldn't they blow the money away for their own purposes? And yes, no culture is inherent to a population, but what majority of a nation/ethnic group practices comes out as a representative of its culture. If Somali culture promotes thinking irrationally and fighting fiercely for your own good (which is totally based on where and what the situation is), guess what? People are going to follow that culture by extension. Not saying Somalis should espouse Japanese culture, but something needs to change.
You get honest citizens when you can actually provide for and protect them which right now can't be done at all. Whether the elites failed Somalia or Somalia failed its elites who knows but one thing I can tell you is the fucks in power's only visions are money, try change anything and you'll more than likely get your head blown off. Blame people for relying on clans when you give them an actual alternative you little shit.
And you get honest politicians when the
said environment actually encourages the idea of unity and nationhood. But that's not necessarily the people's fault though. Like I said, Somalis were nomads that used tribes as a sort of identification and the very idea of nationhood came hundreds of years after they were already used Qabils. It's not entirely the "
Fucks" in power's fault too -- implicit biases based on ones clan is ingrained in Somali culture. So favoring their own "kind" (really redundant btw) is well-expected. I'd say the only way Somalia is savable is if the diaspora returning back home with their skills and moral responsibility (hoping that they're honest and not corrupt). No need to be passive-aggressive by calling me a "
little shit" lmao.
TD;LR: From what I can surmise, you're basically saying that comparing Somalia to Japan is like comparing apples to oranges -- which in itself is correct, but there is certain changes that can be made and it is certainly plausible to make some comparisons between the two. What I'm saying is the people, politicians, as well as the culture all have a reason to play as to why Somalia is in it's certain state.