Beesha Qayaad elders
Baharsame waa midgo to be used by the Jeegaan to attack thier kin like this
fockin traitors
Baharsame waa midgo to be used by the Jeegaan to attack thier kin like this
fockin traitors
Innaa Lillaahi Wa Innaa Ilayhi Raajicuun: Imam burned alive , The Sool violence has hit a new low
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Shaolin23
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That’s a complete lie I won’t allow you to lie MX were united in the early 90s it was only later on the relationship soured with Wagardhac and stop acting like it’s a one way street where was Wagardhac in the Xeerale wars when it was Dir,Cayr,Saleeban,Murusade vs Reer Dini are Mx even politically united like MJ for you to criticize us heavy is the head that wears the crown accept it boqor
I might have exaggerated but the they havent had a break since the civil war. Their wars was happening in mid to early 2000s
Cumar maxamuud and wagardhac are brothers. It was reer khalaf that joined them in early 2000s when hg ganged up on them, reer khalaf engaged sacads while wagardhac pushed off saleebaan. We are tight
It's got nothing to do with political seats of Puntland. They all signed the constitution INCLUDING BAHARSAME. This is more to do with internal dhulbahante leadership, their not happy ugaaryahan has more clout then baharsame in puntland since the baharsame are historical 'garaads'. You will find this problem with all clans with LONG HISTORY who won't tolerate some newby come along and control the clan.
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Accommodate them? Is that why they have more seats than anyone and VP? Blaming MJs is getting old, they are simply a broken clan that are unfortunately killing them selves off. They are anti MJ because they don’t respect hierarchy (hence them fighting each other all the time), they don’t mesh with MJs at all who respect hierarchy and traditions.
In my view what screwed Dhulbahante was the historical clan of leadership and tradition and clout produced a very anti darod leader 'ali khalif' his hatred of Darod goes back a long time. For this reason, they kinda hurt themselves and why ugaadhyahan took the leadership. If baharsame remained pro darod and produced pro darod politicians, the ugaadhyahan wouldn't be as dominant of the clan.
Iyaga isku xaaray. Trust me our sub clan produced a wack job also jama ali jama, even though he his not from a historical leadership jufo, we kicked his ass out, you need to align to Puntland politics, this shit was agreed to in 98. Baharsame simply need to throw out 'galayr' and their back on top of dhulbahante. Noone is spared from PL federal project, not even reer boqor as you saw the wars in 2001. You simply need to align, and the day baharsame figures that out the better for the dhulbahante as a whole.
Don't waste your time going to hawiye or isaaq or anyone else, noone is spared from federal project. No clan is above puntland politics runti.
Iyaga isku xaaray. Trust me our sub clan produced a wack job also jama ali jama, even though he his not from a historical leadership jufo, we kicked his ass out, you need to align to Puntland politics, this shit was agreed to in 98. Baharsame simply need to throw out 'galayr' and their back on top of dhulbahante. Noone is spared from PL federal project, not even reer boqor as you saw the wars in 2001. You simply need to align, and the day baharsame figures that out the better for the dhulbahante as a whole.
Don't waste your time going to hawiye or isaaq or anyone else, noone is spared from federal project. No clan is above puntland politics runti.
I thought we don’t control our airspace
That just means anyone can fly over your region without permission. Who you allow to land in your airports is up to you
It's truly sad how puntite traditions, kingdoms are slowly being removed and infected by aboriginal tribe culture. We really need to reinstate our ancient kingdom practises and identify any aboriginal cultural element either from the south or north and begin to remove it. By uniting with Somalia, we also slowly started losing our own history and this is why you see these behaviors nowadays. I sometimes wish somalia just became a kingdom under boqor osman similar to saudi arabia with crown princes from darod clan and having hawiye and isaaq like an aboriginal population.
Walee meesha ceeb baa ka dhacay
You ruled the Anfar cause they were obviously aborigines, you should also support the same for Somalia and have Djibouti push for a Darod kingdom ruling the local aboriginal populations who have no known kingdom. We will give Abgaal a honorary emirate of mogadishu due to his imam history. It's the only way yaa ibnul issa boy
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Doc do you support an independent kingdom from Somalia?
Yes I do. Make all crown princes all equal and the King only serving as figure head of crown prince clans of Darod who basically takes their politics/decisions/etc and implements it and not make the decision himself. That's all king does. Then give Abgal an emirate over Hawiye/rahanwayn because it's obvious they were aboriginal tribes for them.
That's it, if you can't prove a kingdom from your history that has successive kingdoms and rulers, systems in place, your an aborigine as far as I am concerned. The reason XEER Somali was created was to create structure for these aborigine clans, we have our own XEER tho majerten sultanate
Shaolin23
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Neither did Hawiye but you brought federalism and system of governance to the south after 15 years of anarchy right fix the SSC issue they part of Puntland
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I think we’ve done enough for one lifetime, we just want to rest and develop our homeland.
You got us there. If we brought federalism and governance to the aboriginals, we surely can solve the ssc debacle
The reason puntland lost support of Dhulloz is due to extreme nepotism regarding development.
Laascaanood is receiving more development whether its schools, hospitals etc under SL.
PL treated them as a buffer zone and built nothing for them.
All projects were delegated to MJ areas only.
Laascaanood is receiving more development whether its schools, hospitals etc under SL.
PL treated them as a buffer zone and built nothing for them.
All projects were delegated to MJ areas only.
That is wrong analysis brother. Yey never built shit for anyone, he only paid the army, his mission was mogadishu, ask any puntlander. Wax uu abdillahi noo dhisay ma jiro dhamanteen, he had other mission to complete. Then Cade came and he basically pumped all into abdillahi and 'operation civilize the aborigines''.
It was when Baharsame becme less influential in PL politics and Xaabsade was SACKED, that's what caused the rift among dhulbahantes as Xaabsade got his baharsame crew together, threatened JS into submission or suffer las anod destruction and he went to Isaaq for back-up. But Xaabsade is back in Puntland, he knows his true home. Wuu ku shaqo doontay, Dhulbahante use you for jobs bro, they know where their true homeland is and where all their isimo are.
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