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@Roorigeg. Lol daycares loooooooool

So out of restaurants, grocery stores, insurances, health care, home care, dares, and transportation, you only chose daycares? :dead:

Fyi, Daycares here earn serious buck here. I come across a Somali woman who owns a daycare in Seattle, and she built at least 8 homes in Hargeisa and paid empty land in Hargeisa for over $300,000 cash. There is money to be made in those daycare businesses before Covid19.

Now @DR OSMAN, tell me the stories of those welfare queens in Australia :dead:
 

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Yeah I been to flemington Street but they don't own much there. Haven't been to footscray tho

Footscray is the OG Somali area. Nicholson street and the surrounding area has many Somali stores.

Somalis mainly moved out of the area but a lot of the businesses are there.

Imo Footscray/Flemington > Heidelberg.
 

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So out of restaurants, grocery stores, insurances, health care, home care, dares, and transportation, you only chose daycares? :dead:

Fyi, Daycares here earn serious buck here. I come across a Somali woman who owns a daycare in Seattle, and she built at least 8 homes in Hargeisa and paid empty land in Hargeisa for over $300,000 cash. There is money to be made in those daycare businesses before Covid19.

Now @DR OSMAN, tell me the stories of those welfare queens in Australia :dead:

The daycare is govt funding not her own wealth and it's usually frauds, everyone knows that.
 

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waryaa @Roorigeg we got 80 businesses in west-heidelberg for a population of 2000-3000 Somalis in that zone. We got Footscray mall and Kensington street also for another 2000-3000 population. Yet you have 30 businesses for 30000 population looooooooool. Where-as for our 2000 population it's 80 businesses
 
@Roorigeg. There is only 10k Somalis in all Australia. Melbourne is the largest with about 5k. Just here in Heidelberg they're is 80 businesses for a population of 2-3k Somalis


Where-as your columbus is only 30 businesses for 30k population

So out of 5K Somalis in Sydney, you only have 80 businesses. Now let us look at Columbus, Ohio, out of 20,000 - 30,000, you at least have 1,0000 businesses.

That means, for every 63 Somalis in Sydney, Australia, there is 1 person who owns business.

For every 25 Somalis in Columbus, Ohio, there is a 1 person who owns business.

Keep in mind the Somali influx to Columbus, Ohio was after 2000s. However, in Sydney, Australia, Somalis were going there since the 1990s.
 
@DR OSMAN. I could careless how a Western country is doing well; however, I care about the condition of Somalis in any country. In both Australia and Murica, they were both built by settlers. We're newcomers, so we really have no part of their successes. But looking at both countries, Somalis in Murica are doing far better than ones in Australia.

Now, I call it a day. It was nice chatting you bro. 👍
 
I am proud socialist because I know how well it works in Australia and I want the same for Puntland.
Socialism doesn’t encourage people to work hard, innovate and build businesses. You want that for PL? These western countries can afford socialism, Africans cant.
 

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@Roorigeg I said Melbourne not Sydney. Plus the 80 businesses is in one zone called west heidelberg deep in suburbia melbourne for a population of 2500 Somalis. There is also another section where puntites live in kensington/footscray very close to the Down-town, there is another bunch of businesses there but I can't find stats.

According to @Periplus it's larger then heidelberg. Australia n America are different anything towards inner city is considered 'richer' and anything towards outside city center is considered poorer. Where the puntite businesses are located is in prime real estate in comparison to heidelberg.

But lets just work with the data of 2500 in heidelberg for 80 businesses. Now get me 2500 americans and show me their is 80 businesses.
 

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@Roorigeg here is the maths bruv. 2500/80 businesses= for every 31 Somalis, they have a business. That's just using heidelberg not including footscray or kensington. Now columbus ohio. 30000/1000 business=30. So for every 30 Somalis in columbus they're is a business. It's pretty much equal and I didn't even include other somali areas with business in melbourne but the population wud skew also up to 5-6k so it will self adjust again. If melbourne had 30k somali population we wud have 1000 businesses also if not more considering I only calculated 'one area with somali presence'.
 
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Socialism doesn’t encourage people to work hard, innovate and build businesses. You want that for PL? These western countries can afford socialism, Africans cant.

The socialism I mean is a regulated market to ensure they are paid well so it can lead to more spending into the market place, which will force more businesses to grow and expand while govt revenues increase thru sales tax, land tax, business tax with companies reporting greater revenues.

I am not talking about the welfare aspect, I don't think that's wise. But I do want to ensure health-school are covered universally as both are critically needed in a healthy market place.

I also want to utilize our land and zone it cheaper so workers can become home-owners. This will lead to construction boom and more revenue for the govt thru taxes, rather then the way things are now where it isn't being used at all as it's outside the local ppl capacity and why our over-all govt revenues and economy is crawling not running.
 
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Bro @Roorigeg

Australia has some of the most expensive house prices in the world and most Somalis that I know here are home owners.

I can bet $100 dollars that @DR OSMAN parents own a house and that alone is worth $1 million.

If a Somali owns a home in America it’s probably worth less than 500K.

No comparison.
 

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Bro @Roorigeg

Australia has some of the most expensive house prices in the world and most Somalis that I know here are home owners.

I can bet $100 dollars that @DR OSMAN parents own a house and that alone is worth $1 million.

If a Somali owns a home in America it’s probably worth less than 500K.

No comparison.

Yes American homes are cheap. Minneapolis/Columbus are not really places with 1 million dollar home. If a Somali owns a home which is unlikely, it's probably 250k not even 500k because this isn't new york or l.a where they are, these are real 'rural states'

The typical home value of homes in Columbus is $219,064

Somalis in columbus will need to own 5 properties just to match 1 aussie home
 
Bro @Roorigeg

Australia has some of the most expensive house prices in the world and most Somalis that I know here are home owners.

I can bet $100 dollars that @DR OSMAN parents own a house and that alone is worth $1 million.

If a Somali owns a home in America it’s probably worth less than 500K.

No comparison.
I very much doubt home ownership among Somali’s is high. They don’t like mortgages because they believe it’s haram
 

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@En_Sabah Nur I was totally against Farmajo 'Baxnaano' Garbage welfare. I know welfare won't work in Somalia but god dammit I want to ensure if they work they are earning a wage that is relative to cost of living and allows them to spend so other businesses can eat and grow and obviously government growth.

That's the only socialist part about me and I stand by those principles. I am big supporter of creating affordable housing by making land either 'free' or subsidized relative to local wages. I say this because it's better the land is used then sitting empty, no-one wins. The local doesn't win, construction companies don't win, supply chains don't win, govt revenue don't win. What I have said is a matter of economic principle
 

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I very much doubt home ownership among Somali’s is high. They don’t like mortgages because they believe it’s haram

Most Somalis here are more moderate than those that live in UK or US.

You don’t see many atheist or “harami” Somalis but you don’t see any Salafists here.

Somalis here generally consider home mortgages to be a necessary riba like many other Muslim communities in the West.
 

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