How come Somalis don't eat halal food in some countries?

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Do you have proof of compulsion or not?

I haven't even read through thread just saw you of all people involving yourself in sunni business. That's haram walaalo don't transgress against us or I will gun you and your whole sect down no pun intended
 
So, at the McDonald's cow killing factory they say "in the name of Cthulu" every time they slaughter a cow?

It says dedicated to other than Allah. They don't have to yell Cthulu every time to kill a cow for it to not be dedicated to Allah

I take it you don't follow any madhab?
 

BANTU

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It says dedicated to other than Allah. They don't have to yell Cthulu every time to kill a cow for it to not be dedicated to Allah

I take it you don't follow any school of thoughts?
Dedicated to capitalism? I don't get your logic, having no dedication = not dedicated to other than Allah.

I don't follow any school of thought, but whatever school of thought that brings the type of logic you provided isn't worth my time
 

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One is unreliable, and the other is the cornerstone of Islam, sit down you salafi.
Weak as f*ck, unreliable, usually contradicts the Quran, lmao.

:gucciwhat:You aren't making sense, no one here is debating there are weak and strong Hadiiths.
I am talking about the fact that the Prophets Sunnah is documented through the Hadith
 
Dedicated to capitalism? I don't get your logic, having no dedication = not dedicated to other than Allah.

Haye,

"... So mention the name of Allah upon them when lined up [for sacrifice]; and when they are [lifeless] on their sides, then eat from them and feed the needy and the beggar. Thus have We subjected them to you that you may be grateful." - Al Hajj 22:36

This clearly implies that Allah's name should be mentioned when slaughtering animals in order for it to be considered permissible meat, which McDonald's doesn't

I don't follow any school of thought, but whatever school of thought that brings the type of logic you provided isn't worth my time

Aaaand now it makes sense why you thought it was extreme :francis:
 

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Haye,

"... So mention the name of Allah upon them when lined up [for sacrifice]; and when they are [lifeless] on their sides, then eat from them and feed the needy and the beggar. Thus have We subjected them to you that you may be grateful." - Al Hajj 22:36

This clearly implies that Allah's name should be mentioned when slaughtering animals in order for it to be considered permissible meat, which McDonald's doesn't



Aaaand now it makes sense why you thought it was extreme :francis:
Should be and has to be are two very different things.

It's extreme because you have yet to provide proof, it's extreme you would take something for fact that you can't support
 
Should be and has to be are two very different things.

It's extreme because you have yet to provide proof, it's extreme you would take something for fact that you can't support
:gucciwhat::gucciwhat::gucciwhat:

Alright, I'm done. You can take that however you want to. I'm just going to go ahead with my interpretation along with the illogical consensus of pretty much all scholars.
 

BANTU

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:gucciwhat::gucciwhat::gucciwhat:

Alright, I'm done. You can take that however you want to. I'm just going to go ahead with my interpretation along with the illogical consensus of pretty much all scholars.
It is illogical, don't use an appeal to authority. If you're done, you're done whatever.
 
You're allowed to eat meat that's been slaughtered in the halal way from the people of the book.

There's different interpretations, and some Muslims only accept zabiha halal (slaughtered only by Muslim) while others accept meat of people of the book (Christians and Jews).

Theres halal and there's zabiha halal..

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It is illogical, don't use an appeal to authority. If you're done, you're done whatever.

:ohlord:

It literally said so in the verse I quoted and you're telling me I'm providing no evidence of my claim. Should be not has to be ku te. What else do you want to extend that to? Fasting? Praying? Hajj?

Again

"(6:121) Do not eat of (the animal) over which the name of Allah has not been pronounced (at the time of its slaughtering), for that is a transgression. And behold, the evil ones do inspire doubts and objections into the hearts of their friends so that they dispute with you;86 but if you obey them, you will surely yourselves turn into those who associate others with Allah in His divinity."

This shows the previous was in reference to slaughtering.

It just sounds like you're trying to rationalize your decision
 

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:ohlord:

It literally said so in the verse I quoted and you're telling me I'm providing no evidence of my claim. Should be not has to be ku te. What else do you want to extend that to? Fasting? Praying? Hajj?

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"(6:121) Do not eat of (the animal) over which the name of Allah has not been pronounced (at the time of its slaughtering), for that is a transgression. And behold, the evil ones do inspire doubts and objections into the hearts of their friends so that they dispute with you;86 but if you obey them, you will surely yourselves turn into those who associate others with Allah in His divinity."

This shows the previous was in reference to slaughtering.

It just sounds like you're trying to rationalize your decision
You provided this verse already :gucciwhat: just this one has an interpretation that fits your belief

I didn't even know Somalis eating haram food was a thing. You eat halal food at home and then eat whatever when you're out? Makes no sense.
I rarely eat halaal slaughtered food at home, and it was the same growing up.
 
You provided this verse already :gucciwhat: just this one has an interpretation that fits your belief

Yes, hence the again. It clarifies that it is in reference to slaughtering.

If you refuse that, it's whatever because following your logic you can pick what you deem is compulsory and recommended anyway.
 

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Yes, hence the again. It clarifies that it is in reference to slaughtering.

If you refuse that, it's whatever because following your logic you can pick what you deem is compulsory and recommended anyway.
The Quran clarifies that it is in reference to slaughtering? You're confusing me
 
The Quran clarifies that it is in reference to slaughtering? You're confusing me

When I posted the verse the first time you dismissed as it meaning you should only have to say bismillah before eating when it's actually in reference to mentioning the name of Allah when slaughtering the animal.

Either way, by your interpretation. not saying bismillah before you eat it is a grievous sin, or is that another could be?
 

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when i used to live abroad I used to eat alot of mcdonalds without a care in the world then i came to the UK which has alot of halal places
 
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