Honest question to the married Diaspora males & the likeminded

[Southerner]

So basically get married in a country where women have little to no rights

 

[Lostbox]

No one benefits not even the wife or the children, it's a race to the bottom in the west.

That's what this topic was essentially about, to hopefully get one of the brothers that married in the diaspora to give us their point of view, which hasn't happened thus far.

In my own personal view, any dude >25 that decides to take this massive gamble in the diaspora, is not a smart, intelligent or rational.

It's a person that doesn't care about himself and more importantly his offspring, because when something has value in your eyes, you would never gamble with it.

What do you believe is the alternative?

 

[bluebird]

What about female diaspora @Inquisitive_ , who should they marry

 

[Halimo-2018]

Dont't believe the hype. No one actually pays that much if they do theyre getting married to have a wedding Not a marriage and in these cases trust me the woman pays half or more lol.comeon even Bill Gates doesnt need extravagant wedding it makes me question why people from 3rd world country need one?? Am sure down the line in their family there must be starving faraax/xalimo that can use that money why not send it to them?

 

[Halimo-2018]

You're absolutely spot on, sxb. Its ridiculous the high price some women demand for their mehr. I've always said and held the opinion that, if she asks for more than 5k, she doesn't love you sxb.

One of my distant cousins, left a girl he was courting after she had the gall to literally want 20k for her mehr.

I was blessed enough that my wife, only wanted 2k for her mehr.

I hear about these girls. I've never met. One in real life. Are they really worth that much? Did they finish the Quran? Know how to cook? Cover up properly? Beautiful? Lol who the hell do they think they are? Pulzzz

 

[Inquisitive_]

What do you believe is the alternative?

To me it's very simple.

Most people don't realise that the western world will soon implode on itself, those who have been following geopolitics know this and so do the banksters.

As a black/Muslim foreigner you stand absolutely no chance and will have to migrate from these lands, the same way our parents migrated to these lands.

The advice I give people is simple, you have anywhere between 2-10 years to maximise your earnings, invest back home in real assets, build yourself a nice home and get up to speed.

Doing this as a family is best and that's what we did, while you embark on this journey, you should live like a minimalist and ensure you don't carry any useless burdens (diaspora wife) or even worse waste all your savings/wealth/income either marrying a diaspora wife or dating them.

When you have this mindset and faith, Allah will open doors for you, most people have parents that want to move back to Somalia, get together as siblings, save up and make this happen.

Build a large home with couple of dedicated sections and buy plots of land nearby for future use, you cannot do this alone, you need help and all of this costs a lot less then a standard mortgage in the uk.

You hit 10 birds with one stone this way (barakah, hasanat, sadaqa, sadaqa jariah etc) and the moment you go back, you have the freedom to pick at will.

You might come from a more prosperous family that already has plots of land and a few properties, in which case you plan has become a 100x easier, if there is a will, there is a way brother.

 

[Lostbox]

Most people don't realise that the western world will soon implode on itself, those who have been following geopolitics know this and so do the banksters.

Explain? That's a big claim your making and I want to know the reason you believe so.

 

[Nuur Iidaan]

Dont get married in the West. Simple.
Low cost mehr(which is always forgiven)
She knows her place.
Knows how to raise kids.

Go to Somalia. Beautiful and natural women who are obedient

I need a fat ass saaxiib, That is one of my "must have's" for a wife, it comes after Fear of Allah(v. important), Akhlaaq, knowledge of the deen, and nice baadhi.

I got to go home to see if these glorious women back home have these qualities. I will scout from Zaylac ilaa Raas Kambooni if need be. If she fine, I will have her, her father could be the most tribalist geeljire ever, all he needs to know that I will elope with his daughter if he tries to cock-block my halal blessings.

I will get my qalaanjo qoor dheer, Insha'Allah.

 

[Muji]

Your Imaan quotient is very low. Not to mention your masculinity. You are not driven by your sperms but by your inordinate yet abnormal amount of estrogen

I have a feel inquisitive has breasts too

 

[Suldaanka]

I need a fat ass saaxiib, That is one of my "must have's" for a wife, it comes after akhlaaq, knowledge of the deen, and nice baadhi.

I got to go home to see if these glorious women back home have these qualities. I will scout from Zaylac ilaa Raas Kambooni if need be. If she fine, I will have her, her father could be the most tribalist geeljire ever, all he needs to know that I will elope with his daughter if he tries to cock-block my halal blessings.

I will get my qalaanjo qoor dheer, Insha'Allah.

Most somali girla are slim thick. Second if you are somali no qabil will deny you. If they do. Just do qubasira. Or meher xad. Take her with you. Officalize it. Bring her back and they will properly mehr her to you. Done deal.
You get dhaqan. Deen. Qurux. Awlad barakeysan. Maxa ka maqan. Iyo less buuq

 

[Basra]

I have a feel inquisitive has breasts too

I wont go that far. But i do believe testicles are lacking if i am not completely wrong and therefore ask for forgiveness.

 

[Muji]

I wont go that far. But i do believe testicles are lacking if i am not completely wrong and therefore ask for forgiveness.

You are willing to say he doesn’t have haniyo but saying he has naaso is too far...

 

[Basra]

You are willing to say he doesn’t have haniyo but saying he has naaso is too far...

Yes. Naaso does not have a brain. Testicles has a separate brain. One is nurturing and the other is the source of aggressiveness.

 

[Nuur Iidaan]

Most somali girla are slim thick. Second if you are somali no qabil will deny you. If they do. Just do qubasira. Or meher xad. Take her with you. Officalize it. Bring her back and they will properly mehr her to you. Done deal.
You get dhaqan. Deen. Qurux. Awlad barakeysan. Maxa ka maqan. Iyo less buuq

Nope no qudbo siiro, no way. Have to do everything the correct way or Im not doing it at all.

"Just do qubasira. Or meher xad. Take her with you. Officalize it. Bring her back and they will properly mehr her to you. Done deal."

What do you mean by officialise it waryaa? Do you mean put a baby inside her and then come back and say to her aabo, "Mudane she's gonna have my kid, your grandchild. Now give me your daughters hand before I put a child in your divorced sister too." ??????

You know I want to do other stuff in my life, I ain't trying to die in a gun shootout with a geeljire.

 

[Suldaanka]

Nope no qudbo siiro, no way. Have to do everything the correct way or Im not doing it at all.

"Just do qubasira. Or meher xad. Take her with you. Officalize it. Bring her back and they will properly mehr her to you. Done deal."

What do you mean by officialise it waryaa? Do you mean put a baby inside her and then come back and say to her aabo, "Mudane she's gonna have my kid, your grandchild now give me your daughters hand before I put a child in your divorced sister too." ??????

You know I want to do other stuff in my life, I ain't trying to die in a gun shootout with a geeljire.

Its alright. If you know he will deny you. You can have a sheekh mehr her to you . its legal. After a week with her. He will find out. He cant take the girl away from you so he will bless and already legal marriage.
Sxb so laandhere ma tihid. Naagta shukami ayaad aabeheda ka aadag.

 

[dr.leorio]

I find it amazing how similarly we think sxb. The west is absolutely done for as a society and you would be an absolute moron to marry a diaspora Xalimo and make her the mother of your children. Not only are the power dynamics in the relationships here messed up but the women in America(the west in general) have lost all feminine qualities that make them attractive to us in the first place. These loud, narcissistic, masculine females are repulsive and will end up destroying your family if you decide to marry them. Hence all the Somali single mothers in our community.

Once I'm done with my schooling I also plan to make Hijrah and move back home to resettle there. I'm a minimalist at heart so I don't care if I'm not making 6figures. I plan on helping the under-served communities and working towards rebuilding Somalia for the next generation.

By the way, please ignore these diaspora Xalimos that are trying to shame you because lets be honest, it's in their best interest for us to marry them. But of course we're smarter then that.

 

[HalimaJ]

You still don't get it.

There is no such thing as a "wife" letting you be the head of the household or the equally absurd her giving you a "chance".

If these words even come out of her mouth it's the clearest manifestation that you are pathetic spineless weakling she has no respect for and if she had a choice, you're lifeless carcass would be burnt at the stake.

You clearly don't understand the basic biology of women or even your own biology.

Even if you are the biggest of losers back-home but at least have the ability and cajoles to enforce your authority, power and control in the household, she will respect you and love you for it.

But in the west, you can be Jeff bezos rich but due to the power dynamic imbalance, she has no fear or respect for you, knowing she can kick you out with ease, take the children and half your wealth.

When you give this type of power to women over men, they can't help but become biologically repulsed by those same men, hence the ridiculous divorce rates and the fact they initiate 70% of it. (in our community it's 90%)

An intelligent woman will never respect the biggest loser.

You are very out of touch with the female mindset.

Back home women ask for divorce all the time. Wake up.

Men like you think you can go back home and treat a woman anyway and think she will still jump through hoops for you.

Your mindset is motivated by insecurity. Deep down it is obvious that you believe a woman cannot respect you for what you bring to the table and your personality. You believe that fear is the only tool that you can utilise to make a woman love you.

Fear is nothing in the grand scheme of things. Many women only fear Allah and will not put up with a pathetic insecure man that needs outside authority to keep his family in tact.

 

[HalimaJ]

Most somali girla are slim thick. Second if you are somali no qabil will deny you. If they do. Just do qubasira. Or meher xad. Take her with you. Officalize it. Bring her back and they will properly mehr her to you. Done deal.
You get dhaqan. Deen. Qurux. Awlad barakeysan. Maxa ka maqan. Iyo less buuq

It is haraam for a Muslim woman to marry without the permission of her father.

Honestly, its the height of disrespect for you to do that. You really think her father is going to accept after pulling that stunt???

 

[East side]

People dont pay mehr in advance. My cousin got married and they agreed 6k between themselves. But he hasnt given her a penny yet....its something for the future.

 

[Inquisitive_]

I find it amazing how similarly we think sxb. The west is absolutely done for as a society and you would be an absolute moron to marry a diaspora Xalimo and make her the mother of your children. Not only are the power dynamics in the relationships here messed up but the women in America(the west in general) have lost all feminine qualities that make them attractive to us in the first place. These loud, narcissistic, masculine females are repulsive and will end up destroying your family if you decide to marry them. Hence all the Somali single mothers in our community.

Once I'm done with my schooling I also plan to make Hijrah and move back home to resettle there. I'm a minimalist at heart so I don't care if I'm not making 6figures. I plan on helping the under-served communities and working towards rebuilding Somalia for the next generation.

By the way, please ignore these diaspora Xalimos that are trying to shame you because lets be honest, it's in their best interest for us to marry them. But of course we're smarter then that.

Every time I come across a brother with the same mentality it fills me with happiness, because it's a guaranteed reduction in broken homes, broken children, while our mother land is further enriched.

The problem with many of our men is that they never learn from the mistakes of others, and at the same time they wishfully assume the power dynamics are similar to when your casually dating that woman

The types of men going back are always of 3 types.

- Top 10% conscious brothers that had a long-term plan for this.
- The brothers that were burnt in the diaspora and learned from their mistakes
- The bottom barrel scum that has no luck in the diaspora despite it's degeneracy.


In the old days, it was mostly the second and last categories, but in the last decade, things have changed rapidly, more and more brothers are checking out from the diaspora first-time.

I used to have this intense back and forth with cousins of mine that got married who vehemently disagreed with me.

But once all of them got married, every single one of them changed his mind including those that are still married till this day.

The ability to look far ahead and learn from the mistakes of others, is a tremendous blessing from Allah he bestows on whoever he wants.

I notice that the brothers who don't have this, are usually the careless ones without a spine or zeal, those who live for this world with no regard for their own welfare or that of their children until calamity strikes them.