Growing up queer soomaali, the hatred in the culture and the way forward

Is being queer/lgbt a choice?


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Basra

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Arma i must confess, as smart as i am walaahi, there is one specie that i cannot understand. Heterosexual hyper masculine men. The wild ways, aggressive ways always puts me in a state of uneasiness. I know, i know, Men are silly and stupid and are at the mercy of my lady ways of mischievousness, but i must say, sometimes i look at heterosexual alpha men as some sort of an intriguing little aliens from a far land. lol
 
Arma i must confess, as smart as i am walaahi, there is one specie that i cannot understand. Heterosexual hyper masculine men. The wild ways, aggressive ways always puts me in a state of uneasiness. I know, i know, Men are silly and stupid and are at the mercy of my lady mischievous, but i must say, sometimes i look at heterosexual alpha men as some sort of an intriguing little aliens from a far land. lol
I think you might have a domination fetisch, you are disgrace to the female race:susp:
 

Basra

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Steam

So do u have a vagina or a penis, i am confused. This trans business has had been so confused i dont know where to begin. I mean, questions like "What is your original sex" kinda puts me in a state of ground zero basic of understanding.
 

Abdisamad

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@Steamdevolopment

Would you agree if based on the fact that two females or two males cannot produce children then homosexuality is against nature? So assuming you agree with me on this scientific fact then why should we normalize homosexuality?
 
No, because you two are self-hating mongs, that love to lie about Somalis and Somali culture, and air our dirty laundry for the world to see.
Says the man who is married to a mullato and hates blacks though his own children have (somewhere) enslaved black African ancestry. Doqon. You hate your own children but didn't yet recognise or comprehend it and you accuse someone of "self-hatred" Xoolo fowqol xoolo.
Stick with stories like some 12 year olds robbed me of the pizza for my family. You've the I.Q of an ant. Aren't you the one who said that you are a stones-mason promoted to a project manager building boats? Duufle.
 
@Steamdevolopment

Would you agree if based on the fact that two females or two males cannot produce children then homosexuality is against nature? So assuming you agree with me on this scientific fact then why should we normalize homosexuality?
Against nature cannot be the case when the thing occur naturally in nature, that's a flawed appeal to nature.

Even if I were to concede that is was against nature as you describe by conflating reproduction with nature, it still would be irrelevant for how society should treat consensual homosexual relationships.

Firstly because there is plenty of relationships that are non-producing such as elderly couples that find mates later in life and couples that are infertile, those relationships are equally "against nature" but never the less are not criminalized or stigmatized, therefore to be consistent you would have to either out law or argue against these relationships with the same vigor, something neither you nor your religion does.

Secondly, the axioms or your starting point "only reproducing couples are valid" is a statement of opinion or a value judgement that has no more inherent validity than the statement "only vanille ice cream is real ice cream". It is an arbitrary standard set by religious dogma and is inferior in reaching the goal of most possible human well-being.

Thirdly, supposedly furthering the human race is your main goal or prime objective when it comes to relationships but that view can met without stigmatizing or criminalizing homosexuality, birth-rates are after-all not affected by legalizing queer relationships and in a world with a population problem is ill-adviced to follow.

Fourth, trough the use of in-vitro technology or even just valiant effort queer couples can reproduce and this form of conception is only increasing with time, so rather than stigmatized perhaps you should support these advancement, if your goal really is reproduction.
 

psyche

To each their own
I for one am here to mention that I respect your opinion @Steamdevolopment

As you must know members of the LGBT+ community have an exceptionally high rate of depression and suicide.

Instead of constantly fighting because of our difference we should behave like adults and respect each other's right to freedom.
 

Basra

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Against nature cannot be the case when the thing occur naturally in nature, that's a flawed appeal to nature.

Even if I were to concede that is was against nature as you describe by conflating reproduction with nature, it still would be irrelevant for how society should treat consensual homosexual relationships.

Firstly because there is plenty of relationships that are non-producing such as elderly couples that find mates later in life and couples that are infertile, those relationships are equally "against nature" but never the less are not criminalized or stigmatized, therefore to be consistent you would have to either out law or argue against these relationships with the same vigor, something neither you nor your religion does.

Secondly, the axioms or your starting point "only reproducing couples are valid" is a statement of opinion or a value judgement that has no more inherent validity than the statement "only vanille ice cream is real ice cream". It is an arbitrary standard set by religious dogma and is inferior in reaching the goal of most possible human well-being.

Thirdly, supposedly furthering the human race is your main goal or prime objective when it comes to relationships but that view can met without stigmatizing or criminalizing homosexuality, birth-rates are after-all not affected by legalizing queer relationships and in a world with a population problem is ill-adviced to follow.

Fourth, trough the use of in-vitro technology or even just valiant effort queer couples can reproduce and this form of conception is only increasing with time, so rather than stigmatized perhaps you should support these advancement, if your goal really is reproduction.

Steam

Murdering someone is part of our nature. We ALL have in ourselves. Or something animal basic as Jealousy. We ALL go thru that nearly every day. Yet, should we not control it? Or let is fester into Murder she wrote Plan A & B??> Should we not clean it??? Why is "NOT" responding to Homosexual urges any different?
 
I for one am here to mention that I respect your opinion @Steamdevolopment

As you must know members of the LGBT+ community have an exceptionally high rate of depression and suicide.

Instead of constantly fighting because of our difference we should behave like adults and respect each other's right to freedom.
I have to add that queerness is not the cause of depression/suicide but rather the treatment of queer people is, but other than that you are correct.

I already respect their rights as human being while most here wouldn't hesitate to criminalize and participate in stigmatization of queer expressions.
 

Arma

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Says the man who is married to a mullato and hates blacks though his own children have (somewhere) black African ancestry. Doqon. You hate your own children but didn't yet recognise or comprehend it and you accuse someone of "self-hatred" Xoolo fowqol xoolo.
Stick with stories like some 12 year olds robbed me of the pizza for my family. You've the I.Q of an ant. Aren't you the one who said that you are a stones-mason promoted to a project manager building boats? Duufle.
Ooooof
:drakelaugh::drakelaugh:
 
Steam

Murdering someone is part of our nature. We ALL have in ourselves. Or something animal basic as Jealousy. We ALL go thru that nearly every day. Yet, should we not control it? Or let is fester into Murder she wrote Plan A & B??> Should we not clean it??? Why is "NOT" responding to Homosexual urges any different?
I know you are too smart to ask that question, else I might have thought too highly of you.
 

Basra

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I know you are too smart to ask that question, else I might have though too highly of you.

Steam

U know what i find offensive? Is the limit of your brain. Whenever i come up a invigorating, really mentally challenging question that boxes u to a corner, u skip whoop dip dip away in a tom boyish kinda way. Very offensive if not annoying.
 

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