I can already see the Rare-Tchaffe sample (despite Sourre Kubanawa 400BP clustering close to PN) will be used to claim Harla and therefore by extension Awfat and Awdal(Bar Sa'ad Din) aren't Somali in origin.
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The distribution of those southern samples radiate along the Mota-heavy region.
Those Ethiopia_TutoFela samples are the same as the Ari Blacksmith samples in sub-structure:
I would suspect they maximize those Y-DNAs.
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Ethiopia_SourreKabanawa_400BP is a mix between southern Ethio-Semites mixed with Eastern Cushites. The sample Ethiopia_SourreKabanawa_1000BP was a typical highland Habash profile.
The 400BP sample is too south-shifted to have 15% Mota, IMO. It could have some minor potent stuff like what I found in @NidarNidar ancestry skewing substructure but have little effect on overall PCA positioning.
Talking about clustering beyond the Nilotic and West Asian gradient and maybe the Mota shift lightly is futile. Things are especially tightened because of the arrangements of interrelated ancestry, limited shift dimensionality, and a sort of similarity proportionality in the distinct component. Clusters make only sense in a broad perspective here, not specifics. Somalis would be parallel to the PN cluster but closer to the dotted line. The 400BP sample is above in that regard, and that shift is due to a heavy Habashi mixture.
The 400BP sample is too south-shifted to have 15% Mota, IMO. It could have some minor potent stuff like what I found in @NidarNidar ancestry skewing substructure but have little effect on overall PCA positioning.
Talking about clustering beyond the Nilotic and West Asian gradient and maybe the Mota shift lightly is futile. Things are especially tightened because of the arrangements of interrelated ancestry, limited shift dimensionality, and a sort of similarity proportionality in the distinct component. Clusters make only sense in a broad perspective here, not specifics. Somalis would be parallel to the PN cluster but closer to the dotted line. The 400BP sample is above in that regard, and that shift is due to a heavy Habashi mixture.
Too late. People are already trying to remove Somalis from Adal and calling Harla Ethiosemitic
Those guys seem a little reasonable. Was honestly surprised at how much respect I weirdly have even in Habesha circles. But yeah, I was a bit surprised at how quickly they tried to use this to make sweeping statements.
I stand by what I said too. "Harla" is something of a meme propped up by secondary sources (mostly Ethiopian scholars, in my experience) just seemingly making things up that aren't in the Futuh and basically some modern Somalis and Ethiosemites connecting them to masonry work because they probably were something of an artisanal and settled group.
Bar Sa'ad Din's heartland is modern-day Awdal, Waqooyi galbeed xD, nothing has changed in the last 800 years besides land in the SR.
Can't Horners finally agree that Adal was both Somali and Ethiosemitic? I'm tired of all the ethnic shitflinging, we can share that glorious sultanate.
Can't Horners finally agree that Adal was both Somali and Ethiosemitic? I'm tired of all the ethnic shitflinging, we can share that glorious sultanate.
These chaps are the Iranians to our Greeks, so to speak. Eternal struggle. Nile-Cushitic Vs. Butana: Aksumites Vs Berbers; Abyssinians Vs. Muslim Somalis; SomRepublic Vs. Selassie&Derg. But don't worry. I will marry one of them and unite us. Inshallah.
Garaad Awal
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Walashma dynasty was from modern Maroodi Jeex province of SL where their clan founder is buried (Aw Barkhadle).These Amxaaro peasants need to stfu about AdalCan't Horners finally agree that Adal was both Somali and Ethiosemitic? I'm tired of all the ethnic shitflinging, we can share that glorious sultanate.
I know that some Walashma sultans are buried in Somaliland but I don't know if the dynasty itself was strictly Somali
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Garaad Awal
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That 400bp sample seems close to me as well in qpadm except I can’t get a model to pass with Mota in the mix. I’m pretty sure I would be 2-3% Mota once I manage to have better references.
There are a couple of necropolis, besides those located in Zeila, there was one in Awfāt as well near the Webiga Dir now called Awash river.
The dynasty is linked to the Quraysh, as mentioned in the Chronicle of Ifat, If I recall the same claims held by all major Somali clans hailing from Aqil ibn Abi Talib.
But the Aw Barkhadle link is the strongest evidence to the sultans being Somali right?
He didn't have any direct children that we know of, but was considered ancestor of the Walashma, the Eidagale(Isaaq still maintain the site) it much older and goes back to pre-Islamic times, probably used to worship Eebe Waaq, they also mention Christian crosses but it's most likely the southern cross, which is well documented within Somali astrology.
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