GENETICS Ethiopian aDNA (Axum n so n so)

I can already see the Rare-Tchaffe sample (despite Sourre Kubanawa 400BP clustering close to PN) will be used to claim Harla and therefore by extension Awfat and Awdal(Bar Sa'ad Din) aren't Somali in origin.
 
They all got Horner HG Y-DNA…must all belong to the same clan or something.
The distribution of those southern samples radiate along the Mota-heavy region.

Those Ethiopia_TutoFela samples are the same as the Ari Blacksmith samples in sub-structure:

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I would suspect they maximize those Y-DNAs.
 
Ethiopia_SourreKabanawa_400BP is a mix between southern Ethio-Semites mixed with Eastern Cushites. The sample Ethiopia_SourreKabanawa_1000BP was a typical highland Habash profile.

The 400BP sample is too south-shifted to have 15% Mota, IMO. It could have some minor potent stuff like what I found in @NidarNidar ancestry skewing substructure but have little effect on overall PCA positioning.

Talking about clustering beyond the Nilotic and West Asian gradient and maybe the Mota shift lightly is futile. Things are especially tightened because of the arrangements of interrelated ancestry, limited shift dimensionality, and a sort of similarity proportionality in the distinct component. Clusters make only sense in a broad perspective here, not specifics. Somalis would be parallel to the PN cluster but closer to the dotted line. The 400BP sample is above in that regard, and that shift is due to a heavy Habashi mixture.
 
I can already see the Rare-Tchaffe sample (despite Sourre Kubanawa 400BP clustering close to PN) will be used to claim Harla and therefore by extension Awfat and Awdal(Bar Sa'ad Din) aren't Somali in origin.
Too late. People are already trying to remove Somalis from Adal and calling Harla Ethiosemitic


 

Shimbiris

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Those guys seem a little reasonable. Was honestly surprised at how much respect I weirdly have even in Habesha circles. But yeah, I was a bit surprised at how quickly they tried to use this to make sweeping statements.

I stand by what I said too. "Harla" is something of a meme propped up by secondary sources (mostly Ethiopian scholars, in my experience) just seemingly making things up that aren't in the Futuh and basically some modern Somalis and Ethiosemites connecting them to masonry work because they probably were something of an artisanal and settled group.
 
Those guys seem a little reasonable. Was honestly surprised at how much respect I weirdly have even in Habesha circles. But yeah, I was a bit surprised at how quickly they tried to use this to make sweeping statements.

I stand by what I said too. "Harla" is something of a meme propped up by secondary sources (mostly Ethiopian scholars, in my experience) just seemingly making things up that aren't in the Futuh and basically some modern Somalis and Ethiosemites connecting them to masonry work because they probably were something of an artisanal and settled group.
Can't Horners finally agree that Adal was both Somali and Ethiosemitic? I'm tired of all the ethnic shitflinging, we can share that glorious sultanate.

:damn:
 

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Can't Horners finally agree that Adal was both Somali and Ethiosemitic? I'm tired of all the ethnic shitflinging, we can share that glorious sultanate.

:damn:

These chaps are the Iranians to our Greeks, so to speak. Eternal struggle. Nile-Cushitic Vs. Butana: Aksumites Vs Berbers; Abyssinians Vs. Muslim Somalis; SomRepublic Vs. Selassie&Derg. But don't worry. I will marry one of them and unite us. Inshallah.
 

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Can't Horners finally agree that Adal was both Somali and Ethiosemitic? I'm tired of all the ethnic shitflinging, we can share that glorious sultanate.

:damn:
Walashma dynasty was from modern Maroodi Jeex province of SL where their clan founder is buried (Aw Barkhadle).These Amxaaro peasants need to stfu about Adal
 
Walashma dynasty was from modern Maroodi Jeex province of SL where their clan founder is buried (Aw Barkhadle).These Amxaaro peasants need to stfu about Adal
I know that some Walashma sultans are buried in Somaliland but I don't know if the dynasty itself was strictly Somali
 
These chaps are the Iranians to our Greeks, so to speak. Eternal struggle. Nile-Cushitic Vs. Butana: Aksumites Vs Berbers; Abyssinians Vs. Muslim Somalis; SomRepublic Vs. Selassie&Derg. But don't worry. I will marry one of them and unite us. Inshallah.
Dawg 😭💔 you're literally me
 

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