Does being pro-Somaliland mean that you are a qabilist?

[Ayubi]

Let us be realistic, Somaliland is not coming back. If there was a referendum held in Somaliland about whether to leave or stay, it would be something like 80/20 For leaving. Whether justified or not, they have been taught to despise Somalia.

What would you have us in the South do? Send an army to Hargeisa and force them to acknowledge authority in Xamar?

So we should allow Somaliland to separate at the expense of unionist tribes like Samaroon, Warsangeli and Dhulbahante who have supported most governments throughout history including HSM? If you're going to bring up the Somaliland case, We should also bring up SSC Hartis and Samaroon voices and not undermine or neglect them.

Secondly, you're delusional, are you gonna give one tribe recognition? If Somaliland get's independence, Somalia is screwed and this can cause further instability in the horn. You're basically playing with fire. Other tribal regions would be begging to separate and this can cause an uprising in neighbouring countries. If Jowhar wanted to separate you would not grant it to them but we should appease one tribe at the expense of 16 million in Somalia? What kind of shit is that? Stop appeasing people and have principles.

 

[Mehdi Hassan]

As an aboriginal inhabitant of northern Somalia, I cannot allow successionists to claim my land. Also, you self-righteous southerners who don't mind if they succeed, remember some of them call you yamyam iyo qadaadweyn and actively ridicule you whilst taking pleasure from your suffering. Somaliland is a cult for a certain tribe, and what unites some of them is hate for you guys.

"My land"
Do you own it? Isaaq constitute majority, suck it up dude. Nobody cares.

 

[shum33]

As an aboriginal inhabitant of northern Somalia, I cannot allow successionists to claim my land. Also, you self-righteous southerners who don't mind if they succeed, remember some of them call you yamyam iyo qadaadweyn and actively ridicule you whilst taking pleasure from your suffering. Somaliland is a cult for a certain tribe, and what unites some of them is hate for you guys.

we don't hate or care about southerners and they don't care about us. Only a dhulo will show up and say shit like that "call you yam yam" because of his powerless cuqdaad ridden ass need some support .
how many times have any lander taken the time to insult the south or southerners in this forum? some kids in social media talking about somalia as a country doesn't mean much.
you SSC khatuumo whatever belongs to us and there is nothing you or anyone can do about it. We feed you losers.

 

[Pipit]

yamyam iyo qadaadweyn

What does it mean?

 

[Genesis]

It’s what any country would of done if talks failed. Russia bombed Dagestan to put them under Moscow.

Catlonia is the richest part of Spain and they’ll never get ittiraf.

The south is infested by Al-Shabaab, I care about liberating the farmlands in Jubbaland that could be used to feed our people from actual terrorists rather than send an army to fight for a desert in Somaliland that's peaceful. I'm from Xamar, and bringing back Somaliland is the last thing on their minds, believe me.

SL has done everything they can to get recognition, but they will never get it now that there is an internationally recognized government in the South, the time to get it was 1991-2012, they missed their chance. They are only recognizing this now, and every year the status quo continues, the question of ictiraaf will continue to grow in importance on their minds. Eventually, it will not be able to be ignored.

 

[Soomaaliweyn]

It’s what any country would of done if talks failed. Russia bombed Dagestan to put them under Moscow.

Catlonia is the richest part of Spain and they’ll never get ittiraf, even with their 90% referendum

Xamar too weak to do shit, so Somaliland should be left to do their own devices.

Catalonia have a seperate distinct language. They are former gypsies and not ethnically Spanish. And they cannot even succeed.

So how will a ethnically Somali who speaks Somali and who has the same religion and culture going to succeed from his countrymen?

 

[Mehdi Hassan]

Let us be realistic, Somaliland is not coming back. If there was a referendum held in Somaliland about whether to leave or stay, it would be something like 80/20 For leaving. Whether justified or not, they have been taught to despise Somalia.

What would you have us in the South do? Send an army to Hargeisa and force them to acknowledge authority in Xamar? If they don't want to stay, there is not much we can do.

The status quo works, they will never get ictiraaf, and this will continue to be in the back of their minds.

Don't you have more pressing issues to deal with?? And yes, you are right about that. Why would it? I would actually say a larger percentage would vote against union but not too bad of an estimate. It was 100% justified, 500, 000 civilians massacred in a state-sponsored genocide and two of the largest cities leveled. A people who meekly crawl back to such tyranny are a disgrace. Why do you lot like to pretend there is some sort of indoctrination going on? It's only natural for hate to be in the hearts of people who've been betrayed so heartlessly by their government. What do you expect? For people to love Somalia? Of course not. It just doesn't work that way. There is no status quo by the way, Somaliland has a larger military fyi and if an army is sent you're doomed. They will lose miserably on enemy turf and then our army can pummel you back. Compensation is certainly attainable, if it continues to be in the back of our minds, that's a good thing, that means we will have justice. We spit on your authority. You're not shit to us. You can't even rid yourselves of Al-Shabaab so why even entertain the idea of invasion? In fact a more realistic possibility is SL militarily forcing recognition from the south and officially gaining independence.

 

[Soomaaliweyn]

What does it mean?

They are both intended as slurs. Qadaadweyn means the lower back of the head is big. Yamyam part I don't know

 

[Soomaaliweyn]

Don't you have more pressing issues to deal with?? And yes, you are right about that. Why would it? I would actually say a larger percentage would vote against union but not too bad of an estimate. It was 100% justified, 500, 000 civilians massacred in a state-sponsored genocide and two of the largest cities leveled. A people who meekly crawl back to such tyranny are a disgrace. Why do you lot like to pretend there is some sort of indoctrination going on? It's only natural for hate to be in the hearts of people who've been betrayed so heartlessly by their government. What do you expect? For people to love Somalia? Of course not. It just doesn't work that way. There is no status quo by the way, Somaliland has a larger military fyi and if an army is sent you're doomed. They will lose miserably on enemy turf and then our army can pummel you back. Ictiraaf is certainly attainable, if it continues to be in the back of our minds, that's a good thing, that means we will have justice. We spit on your authority. You're not shit to us. You can't even rid yourselves of Al-Shabaab so why even entertain the idea of invasion? In fact a more realistic possibility is SL militarily forcing recognition from the south and officially gaining independence.

Can't even secure your borders. Social media state kkkkkkkk

 

[Genesis]

Don't you have more pressing issues to deal with?? And yes, you are right about that. Why would it? I would actually say a larger percentage would vote against union but not too bad of an estimate. It was 100% justified, 500, 000 civilians massacred in a state-sponsored genocide and two of the largest cities leveled. A people who meekly crawl back to such tyranny are a disgrace. Why do you lot like to pretend there is some sort of indoctrination going on? It's only natural for hate to be in the hearts of people who've been betrayed so heartlessly by their government. What do you expect? For people to love Somalia? Of course not. It just doesn't work that way. There is no status quo by the way, Somaliland has a larger military fyi and if an army is sent you're doomed. They will lose miserably on enemy turf and then our army can pummel you back. Ictiraaf is certainly attainable, if it continues to be in the back of our minds, that's a good thing, that means we will have justice. We spit on your authority. You're not shit to us. You can't even rid yourselves of Al-Shabaab so why even entertain the idea of invasion? In fact a more realistic possibility is SL militarily forcing recognition from the south and officially gaining independence.

500,000?

The numbers increase every year, it seems.

 

[Mehdi Hassan]

Can't even secure your borders. Social media state kkkkkkkk

Al-Shabaab?

 

[Mehdi Hassan]

500,000?

The numbers increase every year, it seems.

That was a high estimate but regardless, you don't walk in and destroy two large cities and walk out unscathed. Won't happen.

 

[Louis Vuitton Don]

Catalonia have a seperate distinct language. They are former gypsies and not ethnically Spanish. And they cannot even succeed.

So how will a ethnically Somali who speaks Somali and who has the same religion and culture going to succeed from his countrymen?

It’s obvious it will never happen, so no need to discuss them or ittiraf as it’s irrelevant in big picture.

Dhulbahante and warsengeli should make a state, the khat heads can’t stop you so unite and get it done in this next decade InshaAllah.

 

[Mehdi Hassan]

So we should allow Somaliland to separate at the expense of unionist tribes like Samaroon, Warsangeli and Dhulbahante who have supported most governments throughout history including HSM? If you're going to bring up the Somaliland case, We should also bring up SSC Hartis and Samaroon voices and not undermine or neglect them.

Secondly, you're delusional, are you gonna give one tribe recognition? If Somaliland get's independence, Somalia is screwed and this can cause further instability in the horn. You're basically playing with fire. Other tribal regions would be begging to separate and this can cause an uprising in neighbouring countries. If Jowhar wanted to separate you would not grant it to them but we should appease one tribe at the expense of 16 million in Somalia? What kind of shit is that? Stop appeasing people and have principles.

It really isn't the same. You should know this. Those other regions have much weaker cases for secession.

 

[Bernie Madoff]

Do something about it
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[Mehdi Hassan]

It’s obvious it will never happen, so no need to discuss them or ittiraf as it’s irrelevant in big picture.

Dhulbahante and warsengeli should make a state, the khat heads can’t stop you so unite and get it done in this next decade InshaAllah.

You forget SL actually can enforce authority unlike Xamar so if necessary they could just suppress opposition.

 

[Soomaaliweyn]

Al-Shabaab?

I'm talking about Somaliland not bring able to secure their alleged borders. So claiming to be able to invade the south is hysterical

 

[Louis Vuitton Don]

You forget SL actually can enforce authority unlike Xamar so if necessary they could just suppress opposition.

Suppressing opposition won’t happen if warsengeli and dhulbahante have a clear political goal.

 

[Mehdi Hassan]

Suppressing opposition won’t happen if warsengeli and dhulbahante have a clear political goal.

Their leaders sold out though. Bribery works well too.

 

[Louis Vuitton Don]

Their leaders sold out though. Bribery works well too.

In that case, then yes. Best course of action for SL to continue that policy to have administration in lascaanood. Money could be better spent in other areas then spending on them but it’s their decision and if they feel it best, then no problem.