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[GaradShabeel]

lol . I agree with you but what can we do. Ethiopia been pulling strings behind scenes for long time and puppet master finally stepping out from behind curtain. It’s like we more embarrassed about optics than actually reality which is we have thousands of troops from Ethiopia all over south. Somaliland probably the strictest with immigrants and foreigners they will be alright. Let them get their fake recognition and sell out

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[Keep it a boqol]

Ethiopia is not on the brink of collapse the central govt consolidating power and destroying federalism bit by bit. Abiye letting his nuts hang and Somalis can’t even come together to face threat. HSM running to every foreign instead of going north to negotiate or rallying people in Somalia

broski inflation is at another level atm

 

[Hilmaam]

broski inflation is at another level atm

But they still have dirt cheap electrify from all the winds farms and gerd dam. They pay like .06 cents per kWh Somalia we pay like 10x that. We have isbaro everywhere and sometimes we import fruit because of that when we have rich south farmland. Ethiopia of course has a lot of issues and would be piece of cake for most countires outside Subsaharan African, but to Somalia they are giant because of how behind we are

 

[Keep it a boqol]

But they still have dirt cheap electrify from all the winds farms and gerd dam. They pay like .06 cents per kWh Somalia we pay like 10x that. We have isbaro everywhere and sometimes we import fruit because of that when we have rich south farmland. Ethiopia of course has a lot of issues and would be piece of cake for most countires outside Subsaharan African, but to Somalia they are giant because of how behind we are

i agree but let’s not pretend the switch and tone and the rhetoric ministers of ethiopia has been spewing and the back tracking and brotherhood of nations claims. I don’t think they’re stupid enough to attack as it would get egypt an excuse to get involved however just like @GaradShabeel has said i don’t blame HSM not tryna to declare war or march to ethiopia and somaliland as it would spread the sna thinner then it already is. hsm needs to hold out and keep every diplomatic

 

[Hilmaam]

I don’t want to sound pessimistic, but the likelihood of FGS/SNA starting a war if Ethiopia were to follow through with their plans is close to slim. Maybe some resistance from the locals, if they feel like the have the capability to stand up against Ethiopia. No foreign country would get their boots on ground to support us. The truth may hurt, but it needs to be said.

Regarding the Ethiopian military in Somalia, you hit the nail. I’ve seen so many people ask themselves why haven’t HSM started preparations for a war, conscription, mobilizing etc. How tf are you supposed to do that considering your compromised position, with their military being necessary to maintain stability in your country, and openly praising this military ‘cooperation’ and simultaneously trying to condemn them?

The entire world won’t take us serious despite their indirect declaration of war, for all the reasons above. It’s a sad state of affair.

Exactly bro , HSM is struggling to get even hawiyee on same page. How many times has offensive stalled against alshabab due to inter squabbles. Today abgal and hawadle fighting. HG pulling out sometimes to negotiate govt roles and other deals. Mursade civilians getting caught in air strikes by foreigners. Mudug is on brink with Sacad v marehan and Sacad v Leelkase beef building up. Forget about SWS and jubbaland which is pretty much alshabab land . HSM not bad leader he just has no chance with crazy country like ours . Guy close to 70 being run ragged and flying everyday to different time zones with little sleep

 

[Hilmaam]

i agree but let’s not pretend the switch and tone and the rhetoric ministers of ethiopia has been spewing and the back tracking and brotherhood of nations claims. I don’t think they’re stupid enough to attack as it would get egypt an excuse to get involved however just like @GaradShabeel has said i don’t blame HSM not tryna to declare war or march to ethiopia and somaliland as it would spread the sna thinner then it already is. hsm needs to hold out and keep every diplomatic

Who will Ethiopia attack when red carpet being rolled out for them wherever they go. Somaliland top govt officials invitign them with open arms. No war will happen deal will go through with fake recognition or bihi will rip it up when he realizes he won’t get real recognition

 

[Step a side]

Exactly bro , HSM is struggling to get even hawiyee on same page. How many times has offensive stalled against alshabab due to inter squabbles. Today abgal and hawadle fighting. HG pulling out sometimes to negotiate govt roles and other deals. Mursade civilians getting caught in air strikes by foreigners. Mudug is on brink with Sacad v marehan and Sacad v Leelkase beef building up. Forget about SWS and jubbaland which is pretty much alshabab land . HSM not bad leader he just has no chance with crazy country like ours . Guy close to 70 being run ragged and flying everyday to different time zones with little sleep

Mad respect broski for keeping up to date with what’s happening with Murusade lands.

 

[Mahmud33]

Mad respect broski for keeping up to date with what’s happening with Murusade lands.

Stop supporting terrorist and maybe you won’t get airstriked.

 

[celeizo]

Abaq Ogaden do not move in one union, your subclan has already left the ONLF project together with Cagjars tool. But there’s many OG subclans who were against iley like yours was and stil not switched up they are way bigger in numbers aswell enough said saxiib not gonna get too deep into it.

However a armed resistance will not start in Ogadenia, the day the ones in Somalia kick out Ethiopia and Amisom & march to SL we’ll be ready until then wa iska hadaal last time ONLF was active it was djiboutian/SL/PL and GOV officials sending them to jail Ogadenia.

 

[OreoMcflurry]

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[mohamedismail]

I think it's wrong for Somalia to try to arm ONLF. It will only backfire later on with reer DDS taking most of the loss.

Reer DDS should be smart and think of what is in the best of their interests long term. Also Ethiopia will just end up arming rebel groups in Somalia creating 1991 all over again.

 

[Chaseyourdreamzz]

I doubt the local people on the ground would watch Somalia be invaded

 

[Man with a garuun]

Ethiopia is on the brink of collapse and the Somali state is coming back. It would be in the best interest of every clan in Somali region to cooperate with the Somali government and free their land.

There is no Somali govt to cooperate with. Let us get real here.

 

[dekiteshim]

Ethiopia is not on the brink of collapse the central govt consolidating power and destroying federalism bit by bit. Abiye letting his nuts hang and Somalis can’t even come together to face threat. HSM running to every foreign instead of going north to negotiate or rallying people in Somalia

I don’t know about “brink of collapse” but it’s clear that the prognosis for Ethiopia is not good. Sky-high inflation, famine, civil conflict and a hugely polarised society. I don’t know where you got the idea that he’s dismantling federalism when it’s in fact the opposite. His Ethiopianist support has disintegrated. He’s relying on Oromo nationalists to keep him in power. “Oromumma” is a very real phenomenon.

Abiy’s filled the kitchen with gas. All it’s going to take to set the whole thing ablaze is a small spark which is imminent. We will see Amharas and Oromos go to blows and it will be very ugly. What happened in Tigray will pale in comparison

 

[Step a side]

Stop supporting terrorist and maybe you won’t get airstriked.

You can’t do shit. Murusade make up the bulk of SNA. It’s Murusade senators and mp’s that gave the green light to start the air strikes in Galhereri.

 

[Keep it a boqol]

I don’t know about “brink of collapse” but it’s clear that the prognosis for Ethiopia is not good. Sky-high inflation, famine, civil conflict and a hugely polarised society. I don’t know where you got the idea that he’s dismantling federalism when it’s in fact the opposite. His Ethiopianist support has disintegrated. He’s relying on Oromo nationalists to keep him in power. “Oromumma” is a very real phenomenon.

Abiy’s filled the kitchen with gas. All it’s going to take to set the whole thing ablaze is a small spark which is imminent. We will see Amharas and Oromos go to blows and it will be very ugly. What happened in Tigray will pale in comparison

Me during the whole thing when that goes down

 

[Hilmaam]

I don’t know about “brink of collapse” but it’s clear that the prognosis for Ethiopia is not good. Sky-high inflation, famine, civil conflict and a hugely polarised society. I don’t know where you got the idea that he’s dismantling federalism when it’s in fact the opposite. His Ethiopianist support has disintegrated. He’s relying on Oromo nationalists to keep him in power. “Oromumma” is a very real phenomenon.

Abiy’s filled the kitchen with gas. All it’s going to take to set the whole thing ablaze is a small spark which is imminent. We will see Amharas and Oromos go to blows and it will be very ugly. What happened in Tigray will pale in comparison

Abiye prosperity party taking away federal troops for each region and trying to integrate them into federal govts. If he succeeds means federalism over once they lose troops and heavy weapons to central govt . That’s whole reason for war in Amhara is it not? Plus there Amhara fighting on the side of govt and Abiye

 

[Macawisley]

We MJ are good we have a system and a history. Somaliweyne was an Ogaden vision anyway that has done more harm than good for Darod. Darod was by far the premier group in east Africa before they Sayid.

MJ was always against Somaliweyn. It’s like y’all knew something about Ogadens

 

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@Hilmaam @GaradShabeel

 

[Keep it a boqol]

Abiye prosperity party taking away federal troops for each region and trying to integrate them into federal govts. If he succeeds means federalism over once they lose troops and heavy weapons to central govt . That’s whole reason for war in Amhara is it not? Plus there Amhara fighting on the side of govt and Abiye

don’t forget gaajo too