This is all kuffar thinking, In Islam having children is valued and seen as having great reward, Islam is the opposite of narcissism,
Can we pls stop bullying Somali women for being 30 and single
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No I meant both women and men have said to me they don’t want kids. It’s not only women nowadays who don’t want them. It’s guys as well lol.
Let’s stop here. You going off on a tangent that is a personal opinion. One can choose to live their life and follow the deen without children. But go off
Ok so, chidlren may be viewed in our religion as a blessed and a reward. But do you not understand that some people may not agree for various reasons and just don’t want them ?
No its not my opinion IT IS Islam.Let’s stop here. You going off on a tangent that is a personal opinion. One can choose to live their life and follow the deen without children. But go off
Seriously this is our deen
I will send u the hadith once again
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Chapter: Prohibition of Celibacy
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باب النَّهْىِ عَنِ التَّبَتُّلِ، .
Narrated Anas:
It was narrated from Anas that there was a group of the Companions of the Prophet, one of whom said: "I will not marry women." Another said: "I will not eat meat." Another said: "I will not sleep on a bed." Another said: "I will fast and not break my fast." News of that reached the Messenger of Allah and he praised Allah then said: "What is the matter with people who say such and such? But I pray and I sleep, I fast and I break my fast, and I marry women. Whoever turns away from my Sunnah is not of me."
أَخْبَرَنَا إِسْحَاقُ بْنُ إِبْرَاهِيمَ، قَالَ أَنْبَأَنَا عَفَّانُ، قَالَ حَدَّثَنَا حَمَّادُ بْنُ سَلَمَةَ، عَنْ ثَابِتٍ، عَنْ أَنَسٍ، أَنَّ نَفَرًا، مِنْ أَصْحَابِ النَّبِيِّ صلى الله عليه وسلم قَالَ بَعْضُهُمْ لاَ أَتَزَوَّجُ النِّسَاءَ . وَقَالَ بَعْضُهُمْ لاَ آكُلُ اللَّحْمَ . وَقَالَ بَعْضُهُمْ لاَ أَنَامُ عَلَى فِرَاشٍ . وَقَالَ بَعْضُهُمْ أَصُومُ فَلاَ أُفْطِرُ . فَبَلَغَ ذَلِكَ رَسُولَ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم فَحَمِدَ اللَّهَ وَأَثْنَى عَلَيْهِ ثُمَّ قَالَ " مَا بَالُ أَقْوَامٍ يَقُولُونَ كَذَا وَكَذَا لَكِنِّي أُصَلِّي وَأَنَامُ وَأَصُومُ وَأُفْطِرُ وَأَتَزَوَّجُ النِّسَاءَ فَمَنْ رَغِبَ عَنْ سُنَّتِي فَلَيْسَ مِنِّي " .
| Grade: | Sahih (Darussalam) |
Those ppl have a responsibility to change their view and even if they dont like children they should have them and treat them the best.
Its like ur giving everyone the right to accept who they are and chose their own life.
It is not about us it is about the bigger picture,
Unless u have a real reason for not having children like a medical or environmental issue then u do not have a valid excuse
That’s not their problem.
the world is at a max with 8 billion.
not even prophet muhammed saw tried to have as many kids as possible.
Imagine ppl said today I dont like going to school and I can chose my own life and noone can force me to do anything, would u just accept ppl doing that?
Do not talk without knowledge he did try to have as many kids as possible
No it isnt again this is kuffar thinking
U guys been so influenced by the west its upsetting
HUH ? So even if you don’t like chidlren and hate them … your saying you should still have them ? And they may end up being mentally or physically abusing to their chidlren ? How is that any better ? The people who have told me they flat out hate chidlren … are to selfish to raise them .. don’t want to ruin their bodies for them ??????? That’s not a valid reason ?
How many people are messed up cause their parents were awful to them while they was being raised ?
I can’t believe this reasoning ???
Sometimes a parent doesn’t even have to physically abuse their kids … but they may be emotionally withdrawn and emotionally absent from them and that too affects their chidlren ?
yes
Are you trolling at this point lol ? Do you know how damaging it is to children when their parents are awful to them cause they didn’t want them ?? Do you know the facts that chidlren develop the best when they’re raised within a loving and healthy environment with parents who are happy to have them ?
Again wrong, u have accepted ppl acting by their own whims and desires, u think ppl have no choice of how they act? They do, a person can change their view of children and can control how they act, you cannot accept soceity being lazy and doing what they watn and refusing to change, this is ognrance and stupidity, lets stop relying on social services and schools to raise children who are abused and actually focus on getting better parents in society with more reasonability and know how to raise children
No we just let people do what they want,
It isnt a choice to have children or not, it isnt a choice to treat children badly, ur giving ppl a choice to do this, there should be no point where we accept a society where ppl can act the way they want, if ppl do not like children then we should get them help and teach them to raise children properly, not just accept who they are.
Not a valid reason at all.
That is societies fault for not raising the children to be good parents in the first place, u cant just accept ppl how they are and say let people be
I think these new generation of women is very pampered and spoiled, our hooyos and grandmothers have 7+ kids with no complaints.
I don't think u should overglamourise what they did, it was a struggle and could have been better, but there is not need to go to the complete opposite and basically say we dont want any children or only 1 or 2, we should have as many children as we can within our given circumstances. Even if u family plan you should still aim to have as many children as possible
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