Any wadanis here?

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

I don't understand. If your contention is that these administrative regions will have dominant clan due to demographics, there is nothing that can be done about it (unless you would like to suggest a more radical plan?).

Your original issue was that federalism is more democratic and representative than a centralised political system. I've addressed this in my post. Each of these new regions will be still be representative of the locals but we avoid the problem of consolidated clan states; and a political system that reifies further division.

I suspect as time goes on, and Somalia begins rapid development, these archaic forms of social identification will dissipate as I have discussed here.

You said that the 5 federal states represent 5 clannist states and your suggestion was to change it to 18 regions. These 18 regions will be represented in the parliament and they will form political alliances... based on clan!

I don't see how this will end clannism, at all.

 

[MT Foxtrot]

The problem with Federalism long term is that Somalia does not have a center capable of holding the country together and capable of extracting taxes, so the endpoint if it keeps going in this trajectory since the IC won't allow balkanization is 4-5 de-facto countries within a country or a very loose confederation

The problem with a unitary state is that pushing for it will upset the balance that Somali clans have been working for and may lead to another Government collapse, but ti's the only way for the country to be 1 cohesive unit

It's not black and white, there are pros and cons with both systems

I completely agree. I would prefer a centralised system like in the UK with local governments but this is probably the best compromise. At the very least we break the back of clan states and prevent what is essentially enclaves with tribal militias.

 

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

I completely agree. I would prefer a centralised system like in the UK with local governments but this is probably the best compromise. At the very least we break the back of clan states and prevent what is essentially enclaves with tribal militias.

In the current federalism system in Puntland, each village and town has a local council that manages the local budget and makes decisions.

It's not decided in Garowe, it's completely devolved.

 

[GemState]

I completely agree. I would prefer a centralised system like in the UK with local governments but this is probably the best compromise. At the very least we break the back of clan states and prevent what is essentially enclaves with tribal militias.

1m1v across the country and removal of 4.5 is the best way to move forward with this IMO

 

[Villainess]

So you're basically promoting exploitation of areas to benefit the larger clan.

We know what happened before the civil war.

But I want to ask you for a favour.

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Somaliweyn is a dead dream and will cause further destruction to your already unstable government .

I find it ironic that your username disagrees with your statement. Anyways ONE STAR TO RULE THEM ALL

 

[kickz]

1m1v across the country and removal of 4.5 is the best way to move forward with this IMO

Definitely, that and a census of what population sizes are of all the regions.

 

[Baruur]

1m1v isn't possible right now

 

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

1m1v isn't possible right now

Because N&N delayed it on purpose to get an extension. The next President should start on it right away but this is Somalia so don't hold your breath.

 

[Baruur]

Because N&N delayed it on purpose to get an extension. The next President should start on it right away but this is Somalia so don't hold your breath.

I don't believe somalia will ever have a 1m1v that's a pipe dream

 

[Hassan Garguute Buldanana]

No where in the Quran is written midnimada umaada somaliyeed waa muqadas. I identify as an ethnic Majeerten man and my nation is Puntland. The rest of Somalia is as foreign to me as Japan and could care less what happens outside my borders. We are not the same people, we just happened to be lumped together by the evil colonists.

 

[Baruur]

No where in the Quran is written midnimada umaada somaliyeed waa muqadas. I identify as an ethnic Majeerten man and my nation is Puntland. The rest of Somalia is as foreign to me as Japan and could care less what happens outside my borders. We are not the same people, we just happened to be lumped together by the evil colonists.

Wow so cool how can I become like you

 

[Hassan Garguute Buldanana]

Gabdaha belaha Hawiye, whats up with the qashin rating? its what i believe, do you want me to lie?

Wow so cool how can I become like you

By embracing your ethnicity and the region you are from. Dont worry what happens outside your clan territory.

 

[Sloane Ranger]

Gabdaha belaha Hawiye, whats up with the qashin rating? its what i believe, do you want me to lie?



By embracing your ethnicity and the region you are from. Dont worry what happens outside your clan territory.

Me disliking your comment has nothing to do with qabil. I would've done the same if we were from the same tribe. What you said is false as you denied what is written in the quran. I will give you the benefit of the doubt and hope that you are not informed on this matter.

 

[Dooyo]

Bruh, I thought you meant this...

But yes, I'd like to see all Somalis united in the future, Insha-Allah. Dunno if it's possible tho

 

[kickz]

Me disliking your comment has nothing to do with qabil. I would've done the same if we were from the same tribe. What you said is false as you denied what is written in the quran. I will give you the benefit of the doubt and hope that you are not informed on this matter.

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Allah favors us over these peasant qabilists

 

[Sloane Ranger]

Allah favors us over these peasant qabilists

 

[Hassan Garguute Buldanana]

Me disliking your comment has nothing to do with qabil. I would've done the same if we were from the same tribe. What you said is false as you denied what is written in the quran. I will give you the benefit of the doubt and hope that you are not informed on this matter.

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We can practice our religion behind a border. There is no kilafah in the world

 

[Invader]

I find it ironic that your username disagrees with your statement. Anyways ONE STAR TO RULE THEM ALL

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It's a pun don't take everything to literal.

I based it of One ring to rule them all from The Hobbit.

 

[Sloane Ranger]

We can practice our religion behind a border. There is no kilafah in the world

I don't disagree with that point but the Quran explicitely calls for Muslim unity.Yes it doesnt say Somalis but we fit under that umbrella and should respect the commands of Allah. All the best to you

 

[Waranlegang]

I'm Pro-Somaliland and I will always will be.

People in Somaliland never want to unite with you because we know what happened in the 60s and 70s.

The government became a qabil dominance rumble with sub-clan political parties.

It still lingers now. Why did Farmaajo pardon the rape suspects?

Say that to dhulos and warsans and huge chunks of samaroon