Isaaq is not part of Irir
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A colored clan map of Somalia (1955) by I.M Lewis and Muuse Haji Ismaciil Galaal
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Isaaq is not part of Irir
DalsanJubiland
HartilandWaamoJoore
Wabeneeye is land dheere of MJ and Harti
exposedmeat
i do it anyway i like
aren't isaaq dir
No. Banu hashim
bidenkulaha
GalYare
Yet we own Xamar. Politically and economically. Ain’t nobody wanting to even live in Abgaal part of Mogadishu. Murusade are absolutely nobodies compared to both of us tho.
Hodan isn’t xamar abti
bidenkulaha
GalYare
Let me know when y’all understand there’s more to life than camel herding. While our companies dominate the ports and infrastructure of Mogadishu.
We passed that stage centuries ago abti when we ruled and dominated xamar for centuries. Even today the only clan that is a majority in 8 of the 17 districts in xamar is none other than abgaal, and out of these 8 districts, 4 make the top 5 by population. Xamar is atleast 50% abgaal
Economically we dominate xamar together, there is no animosity between the hawiye clans of xamar today although abgaal is probably much more economically dominant due to sheer size. I was just pointing out that historically speaking, xamar was benadiri, abgaal and murusade. HG as well as all the other hawiyes in the city migrated within the last century
Ceerigaabo district has a Harti majority, Ceerigaabo town (the urban land itself) is on land that belongs to HY.
Dhulbahante and Warsangeli settled in Ceerigaabo town during the British colonial period.
SuldaanCabdicaziz
Suldaanka Guud
While Galdogob has a significant RB population it's surprising to see it designated under us rather than Leelkase. Interesting stuff. Been to Bacaadweyn as well good mix of Reer Mudug MJs.
I was responding to his second paragraph about Ceerigaabo not the Majerteen stuff
British colonial Surveys had Dhulbahante in particular Naleye Ahmed in Ceerigabo, so if they took those surveys when they 1st went there, wouldn’t that mean they(dhulbahante) were there before they (British) arrived there?
The town is shared between hy garweyne and nalaye ahmed with warsangali’s and hj minority.
Forget the hateful jealous poster from S/dhexe,
Here below is the Historical claim of mogadishu by HGs, it's a factuals consensus on the ground that HG practically was in high number in Mogadishu before the Italians came and that in Somalia it was HG and MJ that were top dogs!
In Mogadishu it's only HGs that dominate the economy, the Banks, Telecoms, Hospitals, Universities, Hotels, and all financial institution is dominated by HGs and even all the Government Ministerial institutes is in our areas.
@Thegoodshepherd sorry akhie for previous derailing your thread, inshallahi won't happen again, i will post only facts from now.
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Of course there were Naaleye Ahmed in Ceerigaabo district, after all that is their deegaan. Same with Warsangeli.
Ceerigaabo under the British is what is today called Sanaag. There were tens of thousands of Dhulbahante in Ceerigaabo, but the town has always been a HY settlement. The Dhulbahante and Warsangeli moved there because the British made it the center of the largest district in British Somaliland.
The Warsangeli and Dhulbahante who were the majority of Erigavo district’s population moved to Erigavo city for urban opportunities like trade and education. Ceerigaabo town was never carro Harti, but the district was Harti majority (60%) same as Sanaag today.
Of course there were Naaleye Ahmed in Ceerigaabo district, after all that is their deegaan. Same with Warsangeli.
Ceerigaabo under the British is what is today called Sanaag. There were tens of thousands of Dhulbahante in Ceerigaabo, but the town has always been a HY settlement. The Dhulbahante and Warsangeli moved there because the British made it the center of the largest district in British Somaliland.
The Warsangeli and Dhulbahante who were the majority of Erigavo district’s population moved to Erigavo city for urban opportunities like trade and education. Ceerigaabo town was never carro Harti, but the district was Harti majority (60%) same as Sanaag today.
Warsangali and Dhulbahante were a minority in Cerigaabo district (modern day Sanaag) even during British protectorate era:
The demographics of the region were:
Musa Abokor (HJ) 40,000
HY 20,000
Warsangali 20,000
Dhulbahante 10,000 (20,000 on the map is split between southern Sanaag and northern Sool and includes places like Taleex.
So Isaaq in Sanaag were 60,000 and Darod 30,000 at the time.
These numbers explain why Isaaq received 3 MPs for the region (2 HJ, 1 HY) while Darods received only 2 (both Warsangali, Dhulbahante never got any MPs in Sanaag).
Today, a huge chunk of Warsangali migrated to Puntland and Dhulbahante to Sool, its probably 70/30 split for Sanaag between Isaaq and Darod.
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They put samaroon/isaaq/cisse under 1 colorFake! Who gave Dir Dhabo to isaaq?
Fake! Who gave Dir Dhabo to isaaq?
@Bariire put Isaaq under Dir. Isaaq is not part of Dir or any clan within the Samaale/Irir confederation. The 4 major Somaaliweyn lineages are Samaale confederation, Raxanweyne confederation, Jabarti confedration, and the youngest lineage which the Isaaq clan
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