4 wives: Are you following the Sunnah or your lust?

[Finesse]

Her threads are always great, she discusses topics from logical and Islamic point of view. Every man with Sharaf wants a woman like her with Deen and Dhaqan, instead of those so called "succesful sisters".

Sometimes i think she is a farax because her IQ is way to high for beeing a xaliimo. @Finesse you should write your own blogs or something like that, i will support you.

When you get compliment and insulted at the same time and don't know how to respond.


mahadsanid ya misogynist

 

[Finesse]

Sahib she’s doing the act of her name @Finesse lol, deen kulaha, well it’s sunna to have a rich wife that works like the prophet who is ashraf al ambiya kulaha no sharaf, Dhaqan lol, back in our dhaqan the women also works hard and is a productive in nomad culture so what dhaqan are you talking about, she sounds like the lazy type who will add nothing but mooch and finesse a brothers pockets smh, those successful sisters are far better in that they stay a healthy weight and look more attractive longer unlike sisters who sit around all day and gain 100 pounds after a wedding, have work ethic, bring in wealth, have higher iqs so your children will be better

LOL, lazy? I have been working AND studying since I was a young girl and I am beautiful,
* Mashallah and spits adkaar on self *

You are insinuating that a Muslim woman is useless unless she brings in money.. do you know what kind of sacrifice child birth is? To the extent that a woman is a MARTYR if she dies giving birth (which can happen and does happen).. She gives birth to children that will carry YOUR name, YOUR lineage yet you think it's much to ask for a man to provide an income..

Again, this is not something I invented, this is from Allah, take it up with SWT.

 

[Abdurahman_somali]

@Ugaaso okay i understand the first qashin, but why the second one ?

 

[Tukraq]

LOL, lazy? I have been working AND studying since I was a young girl and I am beautiful,
* Mashallah and spits adkaar on self *

You are insinuating that a Muslim woman is useless unless she brings in money.. do you know what kind of sacrifice child birth is? To the extent that a woman is a MARTYR if she dies giving birth (which can happen and does happen).. She gives birth to children that will carry YOUR name, YOUR lineage yet you think it's much to ask for a man to provide an income..

Again, this is not something I invented, this is from Allah, take it up with SWT.

Bring a 100k salary and if your worried about child birth we can get a surrogate like Kimye or dwade and gab union, is it too much to ask for your wife to also bring in income so you can double your cash, you need to stop being lazy

 

[Inquisitive_]

Sweety there is no 'bestie' in opposite sex marriage. Unless u r marrying a lesbian, like two women. The whole point of coupling is to unite two opposite. What kind of passion exist among besties? R u all going to schedule sex time like it buffet time or bingo times on sundays?

That's the unfortunate mindset of these new age diaspora dhoociloyin and it all ends in a big bang divorce shortly after

Throughout history females were paired with males 8-30 years older, there was profound wisdom in this which has now been lost in this hippie qashin generation that look for bestie doqon equal age roommate who is mentally less developed and more immature then her

 

[Ugaaso]

@Ugaaso okay i understand the first qashin, but why the second one ?

I have my own reasons.

 

[HalimaJ]

@Tukraq Islam has given us clear roles.

Men are the protectors and maintainers.

In islam even if a woman is rich, her husband has to provide. That is the right of the muslim wife.

Its sickening that you try to pass it off as laziness.

Women aren't your own donkeys that you overwork.

So you expect her to cook, clean, birth and raise your kids look after the home AND provide for you???

She isn't your mother.

 

[HalimaJ]

That's the unfortunate mindset of these new age diaspora dhoociloyin and it all ends in a big bang divorce shortly after

Throughout history females were paired with males 8-30 years older, there was profound wisdom in this which has now been lost in this hippie qashin generation that look for bestie doqon equal age roommate who is mentally less developed and more immature then her

Ali may Allah be pleased with him was not that much older than Fatima.

There is nothing wrong with people who are of a similar age marrying.

The prophet s.a.w married a woman older than he is and she was his biggest supporter and the love of his life.

Marrying someone who supports and understands you is the recipe of a succesful marriage. Its very telling that you are agreeing with Basra as she has been saying in this thread that a woman shouldn't expect a man to stay with her til old age. So what are you advocating?

 

[Tukraq]

@Tukraq Islam has given us clear roles.

Men are the protectors and maintainers.

In islam even if a woman is rich, her husband has to provide. That is the right of the muslim wife.

Its sickening that you try to pass it off as laziness.

Women aren't your own donkeys that you overwork.

So you expect her to cook, clean, birth and raise your kids look after the home AND provide for you???

She isn't your mother.

wast Khadijah the bread winner
that cancels the deen excuse,
dosent our dhaqan have both men and women working hard as nomads
that take the dhaqan excuse out,
a maid chef nanny will take care of all that other stuff easily if we both bring in a 6 figure salary,
and don't act like a nanny is a bad thing considering the prophet was raised by one also for his early years

 

[HalimaJ]

wast Khadijah the bread winner
that cancels the deen excuse,
dosent our dhaqan have both men and women working hard as nomads
that take the dhaqan excuse out,
a maid chef nanny will take care of all that other stuff easily if we both bring in a 6 figure salary,
and don't act like a nanny is a bad thing considering the prophet was raised by one also for his early years

The prophet S.A.W was running her business for her.


Our culture treats Somali women as glorified servants. The man has one job, whilst the woman is expected to be the jack of all trades.

Its even worse now due to the war. A lot of men cannot find jobs, yet all they do is eat khat, whilst their wives single handedly raise the kids, serve them and run the house.

 

[Inquisitive_]

Ali may Allah be pleased with him was not that much older than Fatima.

There is nothing wrong with people who are of a similar age marrying.

The prophet s.a.w married a woman older than he is and she was his biggest supporter and the love of his life.

Marrying someone who supports and understands you is the recipe of a succesful marriage. Its very telling that you are agreeing with Basra as she has been saying in this thread that a woman shouldn't expect a man to stay with her til old age. So what are you advocating?

Your an expert at missing the contexts of posts, yes of course there will always be exceptions but the norms are the age gaps.

Besides a 19 year old in the 7th century or even one raised in a third world country is a million times more mature then a doqon diaspora youth that is raised in luxurious comforts and has never encountered any difficulties or hardships in life.

The same concept applies to the immature useless dhoocil that is under 25 in Europe, they are far more difficult to deal with then there equivalent back home who are much more mature and mentally developed.

In this day and age and especially in the diaspora, to pair up a underdeveloped doqon at 21 with an equally useless 19 year old dhoocil is a recipe for disaster, they will both break at the first minor test that befalls them.

You have no clue about the recipes for a successful marriage and of course it doesn't come as a surprise to me.

 

[Mercury]

Your an expert at missing the contexts of posts, yes of course there will always be exceptions but the norms are the age gaps.

Besides a 19 year old in the 7th century or even one raised in a third world country is a million times more mature then a doqon diaspora youth that is raised in luxurious comforts and has never encountered any difficulties or hardships in life.

The same concept applies to the immature useless dhoocil that is under 25 in Europe, they are far more difficult to deal with then there equivalent back home who are much more mature and mentally developed.

In this day and age and especially in the diaspora, to pair up a underdeveloped doqon at 21 with an equally useless 19 year old dhoocil is a recipe for disaster, they will both break at the first minor test that befalls them.

You have no clue about the recipes for a successful marriage and of course it doesn't come as a surprise to me.

And I take it your definition of a successful marriage is a woman that stays home and doing everything by herself

 

[Finesse]

That's the unfortunate mindset of these new age diaspora dhoociloyin and it all ends in a big bang divorce shortly after

Throughout history females were paired with males 8-30 years older, there was profound wisdom in this which has now been lost in this hippie qashin generation that look for bestie doqon equal age roommate who is mentally less developed and more immature then her

Learn how to express yourself like a normal person or stay out of my topics with your negative energy and insults.

 

[Finesse]

Bring a 100k salary and if your worried about child birth we can get a surrogate like Kimye or dwade and gab union, is it too much to ask for your wife to also bring in income so you can double your cash, you need to stop being lazy

LOL

What do you define as the role of a husband and wife, be as detailed as possible so that I can respond accordingly.

 

[Inquisitive_]

wast Khadijah the bread winner
that cancels the deen excuse,
dosent our dhaqan have both men and women working hard as nomads
that take the dhaqan excuse out,
a maid chef nanny will take care of all that other stuff easily if we both bring in a 6 figure salary,
and don't act like a nanny is a bad thing considering the prophet was raised by one also for his early years

Your hitting these confused diaspora Xaalimo's were it hurts most and exposing there latent hypocrisy.

They want that feminist lifestyle, shun traditional gender roles and want nothing to do with it, they want to split all house chores 50/50 with you.

But don't you dare ask me to split bills with you or bring a second income to the household, what is mine is mine and you cannot dictate to me!

They bring absolutely nothing to the table other then great burdens, accelerated ageing and great grief physically and psychologically.

Walahi I feel sorry for the dudes that accept these terms may Allah protect us and our families from it, these poor souls fork out all there savings and work overtime for years to get with them on these shameless terms.

The prevalence of these types of women and there latent hypocrisy is as a result of the increase in weak pathetic spineless males who accept this, may Allah protect us from ever becoming like this.

 

[Struggle]

Your hitting these confused diaspora Xaalimo's were it hurts most and exposing there latent hypocrisy.

They want that feminist lifestyle, shun traditional gender roles and want nothing to do with it, they want to split all house chores 50/50 with you.

But don't you dare ask me to split bills with you or bring a second income to the household, what is mine is mine and you cannot dictate to me!

They bring absolutely nothing to the table other then great burdens, accelerated ageing and great grief physically and psychologically.

Walahi I feel sorry for the dudes that accept these terms may Allah protect us and our families from it, these poor souls fork out all there savings and work overtime for years to get with them on these shameless terms.

The prevalence of these types of women and there latent hypocrisy is as a result of the increase in weak pathetic spineless males who accept this, may Allah protect us from ever becoming like this.

Agreed 100% The problem is not female (Xalimo) nature, but the deterioration of male self-respect. I have been supporting the Men should provide for women concept for nearly all my life, but i now fully support 50/50 split.

 

[Finesse]

The funny thing is that not even ONE women in this topic has said she shuns being a house wife.
A negative man will get the negativity he projects so continue on. If "xaliimos" are lazy, entitled etc, that's the woman you'll end up getting married to.

As for the men that understand that every woman is different and operate with an open mind and optimism, they'll get a good woman.

That's how life works.

Even if you were used or dumped/divorced by a woman, that doesn't mean you should turn bitter and shun all women. Some of you need help from a professional therapist.

 

[Finesse]

It's like some of you have never seen a well-run household or have no appreciation for it. Do you know how much planning and time goes into making sure;

-Fridge and cupboard is stocked
-3 meals a day, not including snacks and packed lunches for working partner and children.
-House is cleaned
-Clothes are washed and ironed
-Family schedule is being run efficiently, children being dropped off at school & picked up, homework clubs, social activity clubs etc.

ON top of all that, women are expected to look good and entertain their husbands after a long day of running the household.

Either way, everyone has free will, so feel free live how you will and convince a man/woman to share the life you prefer.

Finally;

The only men that constantly complain about women, money or 50/50 nonsense, barely have money to speak of.

Men of means actually want an educated woman who is willing to look after the household/children most of the time because they're busy making money. That or they hire a maid and a cook.

 

[Tukraq]

@Finesse abayoo even allah says men marry for four reasons, beauty, lineage/popularity, money, and deen, I don’t know why you keep jumping over the money one because all things equal the guy would take the Rich hard working wife so if your poorer your at a disadvantage with your competition if all things are equal

 

[Tukraq]

The prophet S.A.W was running her business for her.


Our culture treats Somali women as glorified servants. The man has one job, whilst the woman is expected to be the jack of all trades.

Its even worse now due to the war. A lot of men cannot find jobs, yet all they do is eat khat, whilst their wives single handedly raise the kids, serve them and run the house.

How are the women servents
They all have Oromo maids/cooks,
The Somali women sit around all day and accumulate weight Khadijah was running the business the prophet was on the bottom of the totem pole