Islam is the only hope for Native Americans to make a comeback

@astorecalledkmart

Unite where it matters most, that’s back home and it’s an impossible task. Fake unity on cyber is what’s called munaafiqiin.

JazakAllah khair 100%; Muslims need to put their money where their mouth is, and I agree with you, but baby steps are important. If it starts with a conversation, so be it. The brothers and sisters on here who value Somali patriotism and deen over qabil are a nucleus upon which we can build.
The way you pose questions is also beneficial - you criticize Muslims, not Islam and if we listen to your advice on practicing what we preac first, we would live in a very different world free of hypocrisy
 
JazakAllah khair 100%; Muslims need to put their money where their mouth is, and I agree with you, but baby steps are important. If it starts with a conversation, so be it. The brothers and sisters on here who value Somali patriotism and deen over qabil are a nucleus upon which we can build.
The way you pose questions is also beneficial - you criticize Muslims, not Islam and if we listen to your advice on practicing what we preac first, we would live in a very different world free of hypocrisy

@astorecalledkmart

Sxb, this thread is an embarrassment given that there are many Muslim countries in turmoil including ourselves. We should apply to ourselves before we ask others to become a panacea to their problems. Furthermore, my friend @Samaalic Era believes Bantu Somali Muslims to be deported and justifies their ill treatment in Somalia. I have full respect for people like @Omar del Sur and @Lum because you will never see them engage in such petty tribal and racist issues and then put a cimaamad on his head. Fake=munaafuq
 

Samaalic Era

QurboExit
@astorecalledkmart

Sxb, this thread is an embarrassment given that there are many Muslim countries in turmoil including ourselves. We should apply to ourselves before we ask others to become a panacea to their problems. Furthermore, my friend @Samaalic Era believes Bantu Somali Muslims to be deported and justifies their ill treatment in Somalia. I have full respect for people like @Omar del Sur and @Lum because you will never see them engage in such petty tribal and racist issues and then put a cimaamad on his head. Fake=munaafuq
Bantus have more than 20 countries where we only have one. Its a matter of survival and not hate.
 
@astorecalledkmart

Sxb, this thread is an embarrassment given that there are many Muslim countries in turmoil including ourselves. We should apply to ourselves before we ask others to become a panacea to their problems. Furthermore, my friend @Samaalic Era believes Bantu Somali Muslims to be deported and justifies their ill treatment in Somalia. I have full respect for people like @Omar del Sur and @Lum because you will never see them engage in such petty tribal and racist issues and then put a cimaamad on his head. Fake=munaafuq
@Samaalic Era tbh he's got a point. U can't really talk about qabil toxicity whilst having pure hatred for Madowweyne. They're miskeen and Muslim. Hating a qabil simply for the way they look is just wrong....we have to face ourselves. You're qabilist too sxb :francis:
 
Bantus have more than 20 countries where we only have one. Its a matter of survival and not hate.

@Samaalic Era

Somali Muslim Bantus only know Somalia and view themselves Somalis just like you and me, why would you call for their mass deportations? You want to be considered as a Brit and deny them their citizenships in Somalia. Why do you care for the indigenous Americans to become Muslims when you treat your fellow Muslims and Somalis despicably? If this isn’t munaafuqnimo, I don’t know what it is.
 

Samaalic Era

QurboExit
@Samaalic Era tbh he's got a point. U can't really talk about qabil toxicity whilst having pure hatred for Madowweyne. They're miskeen and Muslim. Hating a qabil simply for the way they look is just wrong....we have to face ourselves. You're qabilist too sxb :francis:
Madowwayne are not Somali but a totally foreign ethnic group who are Somalised. Somali clans like Madhibaan,Tumaal and Yibir are full Somalis and I dont discriminate against despite being hated by alot of Somalis:yacadiim:
 

Samaalic Era

QurboExit
@Samaalic Era

Somali Muslim Bantus only know Somalia and view themselves Somalis just like you and me, why would you call for their mass deportations? You want to be considered as a Brit and deny them their citizenships in Somalia. Why do you care for the indigenous Americans to become Muslims when you treat your fellow Muslims and Somalis despicably? If this isn’t munaafuqnimo, I don’t know what it is.
Its not like Im calling for native americans to come and migrate to Somalia but rather for them to reclaim their own lands which Islam is needed for as they have the lost will to redeem themselves
 
Madowwayne are not Somali but a totally foreign ethnic group who are Somalised. Somali clans like Madhibaan,Tumaal and Yibir are full Somalis and I dont discriminate against despite being hated by alot of Somalis:yacadiim:

@Samaalic Era

Madowweeyne are more Somalis than you, they haven’t destroyed Somalia & Somalis dressed in qabiil uniforms and replaced them with sheiks cimaamads. Guess who did?
 
There is a difference between ethnic and cultural Somalis. Somali Bantu are cultural Somalis, but Somalis now nonetheless. They were forcibly brought from their homeland in Mozambique and Tanzania by Somali slavers. They have had to adopt our language, customs, and deen. If we truly believe in Islam, then we must accept that Somali Bantu are our responsibility and brothers in Islam and Somalinimo and show them that the actions of ancestors do not reflect our deen or our noble culture. If we have accepted Somali caad caad, we must also welcome Somali Bantu as our brethren. The ones who we should be really worried about are Kenya, Ethiopia, and Arabs who don't give a crap about qabil and hate us simply because we are Somali.
 
Madowwayne are not Somali but a totally foreign ethnic group who are Somalised. Somali clans like Madhibaan,Tumaal and Yibir are full Somalis and I dont discriminate against despite being hated by alot of Somalis:yacadiim:
Yibir seem to be heavily Madow and are Jewish people who are likely iimigrants from outside of Somalia.

Also, Madowwayne have lived in Somalia for centuries now. They been Somalised thorugh language and culture too. Hell, even niiko is a dance we got from them.

So u're ok with suspicious Jewish-Madow Somalis but not Bantus who worked the land and are Muslim??? :draketf:
 
To be Somali, one must be Muslim and be a Descendant of Hiil through Samaale and Saabe, babatunde sxb:drakekidding:

@Samaalic Era

Sxb, I think you got the gist of my posts. When you cleanse yourself from all kinds of prejudices and hatreds towards your fellow Muslim Somalis be they Bantus or other clans, United and helping one another to be peaceful and prosperous, then be an example and a role model for Islam. Till then, embarrass yourself and let others laugh at the suggestion of a Somali that Islam would’ve been good for indigenous Americans.
 

Lum

رَّبِّ زِدْنِي عِلْمًا
Individuals are obligated to condemn oppression regardless of circumstances. You are liable and expected as a Muslim to defend a non-Muslim if they are being abused or mistreated by someone else, even if the oppressor says they are Muslim. The sunnah of the Prophet PBUH is to be just, kind, and fair to everyone. The people who remain silent while oppression is occurring will be punished on the Day of Judgment along with their leaders as is stated in Surah Saba.

That is a problematic hadeeth regarding not standing up against corrupt leaders as it runs contrary to the Quran - the Prophet PBUH stood up to Quraish, Nabi Musa AS stood up to Pharoah - literally every Prophet stood up to corrupt government. I pick Quran over a weak hadeeth that is against the Quran.

Yes, non-Muslim countries are closer to the correct path in terms of kindness. If they weren't, you'd have immigrated to an Arab country and been welcomed.

A person's clothing isn't what determines their taqwa once they meet the minimum requirements of modesty. If a Muslim woman in the west is working hard to improve the lives of others, dresses modestly, but doesn't wear a jilbaab or hijab, then her reward will be greater than a woman who wears a jilbaab, but does nothing to help anyone.
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Samaalic Era

QurboExit
Yibir seem to be heavily Madow and are Jewish people who are likely iimigrants from outside of Somalia.

Also, Madowwayne have lived in Somalia for centuries now. They been Somalised thorugh language and culture too. Hell, even niiko is a dance we got from them.

So u're ok with suspicious Jewish-Madow Somalis but not Bantus who worked the land and are Muslim??? :draketf:
Yibir are full Somalis who are descended from Saabe, brother of Samaale, not Madow
 

Samaalic Era

QurboExit
@Samaalic Era

Sxb, I think you got the gist of my posts. When you cleanse yourself from all kinds of prejudices and hatreds towards your fellow Muslim Somalis be they Bantus or other clans, United and helping one another to be peaceful and prosperous, then be an example and a role model for Islam. Till then, embarrass yourself and let others laugh at the suggestion of a Somali that Islam would’ve been good for indigenous Americans.
You cant love everyone in this world, thats not possible. The key is love your own first
 

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