Islam is the only hope for Native Americans to make a comeback

[astorecalledkmart]

You said it urself. In that case u have to undesrtand that the people at the topof the pyramid and other officials are the only ones that are corrupt along with their soldiers. The avergae Somali (the society in this case) didn't want blood and chaos, that's only pushed by the corrupt minority. Therefore it's the individuals NOT the society that's corrupt. The people can't do anything against the few that outrank them and give them orders...the majority of simple people are forced into acting against their religious morals (not all the time) so u can't say that society went to shit cus of the people, it's the leaders. Islam knows this and that's why the prophet advised to NOT act against ur oppressors/leaders for that in not our duty.


That's not true at all sxb. You're telling me kaafirs adhere to Muslim principals more than Muslims themselves? lol. If anything charity from western countries is not a representation of Muslim chaity at all. It's all corrupt. Muslim countries do chaity too anyway and they're still suffering?


But it does. What pleases God more? Pious Somali girls in western clothing or pious Somali girls in jilbabs?

Wether Somalis followed the deen or not they were always in conflict

Individuals are obligated to condemn oppression regardless of circumstances. You are liable and expected as a Muslim to defend a non-Muslim if they are being abused or mistreated by someone else, even if the oppressor says they are Muslim. The sunnah of the Prophet PBUH is to be just, kind, and fair to everyone. The people who remain silent while oppression is occurring will be punished on the Day of Judgment along with their leaders as is stated in Surah Saba.

That is a problematic hadeeth regarding not standing up against corrupt leaders as it runs contrary to the Quran - the Prophet PBUH stood up to Quraish, Nabi Musa AS stood up to Pharoah - literally every Prophet stood up to corrupt government. I pick Quran over a weak hadeeth that is against the Quran.

Yes, non-Muslim countries are closer to the correct path in terms of kindness. If they weren't, you'd have immigrated to an Arab country and been welcomed.

A person's clothing isn't what determines their taqwa once they meet the minimum requirements of modesty. If a Muslim woman in the west is working hard to improve the lives of others, dresses modestly, but doesn't wear a jilbaab or hijab, then her reward will be greater than a woman who wears a jilbaab, but does nothing to help anyone.

 

[Samaalic Era]

@Samaalic Era

Your come back is like the racist guy quipping, I have black friends or neighbours.

Across the Islamic world, there are civil wars, massive poverty and illiteracy and why didn’t Islam help them? The best these indigenous people could do is take advantage of the education system available to them and build their communities from the base up. It’s easier said than done. Having said that, there are few clans who got very wealthy from casinos and tourism and are focused on doing just that. Maybe they could become a conduit for the majority to escape poverty.

@kickz @Arma @Crow @Tukraq
According to @AussieHustler , I want to genocide you and watch you guys kill each other, he is trying to start HG-MJ war so he can attack you guys from the north. What a cunning devil

 

[Samaalic Era]

@AussieHustler
Islam is what made us survive to the Modern age, that is an undeniable fact

 

[astorecalledkmart]

@AussieHustler I strongly agree with your lead by example quote on Islam,

Nevertheless, I just want to remind everyone that there is a difference between Islam and Muslims. It isn't Islam that's the problem, but rather people who claim to be Muslim doing terrible things

 

[AussieHustler]

@AussieHustler
Islam is what made us survive to the Modern age, that is an undeniable fact

@Samaalic Era

Hindus, Sikhs, Animists, Waaq worshippers and many others who believe in traditional and other monotheistic religions survived into the modern age, what’s your point?

 

[Samaalic Era]

@Samaalic Era

Hindus, Sikhs, Animists, Waaq worshippers and many others who believe in traditional and other monotheistic religions survived into the modern age, what’s your point?

Without Islam, Somalis would have been destroyed by the Portuguese and Oromo hordes. Islam was the foundation of their internal strength and source of will

 

[TheAnswer]

Without Islam, Somalis would have been destroyed by the Portuguese and Oromo hordes. Islam was the foundation of their internal strength and source of will

Is that what your habar gidir warlord adeer, "Sheikh" Indhacade, told you? You know, the man who wrapped himself up in Islamic garments to justify the old habar gidir tradition of stealing other people's land?

 

[AussieHustler]

Without Islam, Somalis would have been destroyed by the Portuguese and Oromo hordes. Islam was the foundation of their internal strength and source of will

@Samaalic Era

Still, it couldn’t stop the colonisation of Somalia, so what?

This thread is an embarrassment given our situation in Somalia.

 

[P4$t0]

Werent you MX trying to force your way into Kismayo just recently with Ethiopian mercenaries, Have you no shame sxb:siilaanyolaugh:

Sxb don't take his obvious bait. He's already lost a long time ago with his original comment.

 

[Samaalic Era]

Sxb don't take his obvious bait. He's already lost a long time ago with his original comment.

Are you MX sxb. The other MX users here cool folks like @Sheikh @Creed @TekNiKo @Dues Ex Machete

Its this nacas that is obsessed with FKD. I have no problem with MX irl

 

[P4$t0]

Are you MX sxb. The other MX users here cool folks like @Sheikh @Creed @TekNiKo @Dues Ex Machete

Its this nacas that is obsessed with FKD. I have no problem with MX irl

Warsangeli. Warsangeli harti to be exact.

 

[Samaalic Era]

Warsangeli. Warsangeli harti to be exact.

Masha'Allah

 

[astorecalledkmart]

Individuals are obligated to condemn oppression regardless of circumstances. You are liable and expected as a Muslim to defend a non-Muslim if they are being abused or mistreated by someone else, even if the oppressor says they are Muslim. The sunnah of the Prophet PBUH is to be just, kind, and fair to everyone. The people who remain silent while oppression is occurring will be punished on the Day of Judgment along with their leaders as is stated in Surah Saba.

That is a problematic hadeeth regarding not standing up against corrupt leaders as it runs contrary to the Quran - the Prophet PBUH stood up to Quraish, Nabi Musa AS stood up to Pharoah - literally every Prophet stood up to corrupt government. I pick Quran over a weak hadeeth that is against the Quran.

Yes, non-Muslim countries are closer to the correct path in terms of kindness. If they weren't, you'd have immigrated to an Arab country and been welcomed.

A person's clothing isn't what determines their taqwa once they meet the minimum requirements of modesty. If a Muslim woman in the west is working hard to improve the lives of others, dresses modestly, but doesn't wear a jilbaab or niqab, then her reward will be greater than a woman who wears a jilbaab, but does nothing to help anyone.

I meant to say niqab not hijab lol

 

[AussieHustler]

This thread needs to be dumped in the Tribal Council, since I’m a participant, which moderator will be kind enough to dump it there. It embarrasses all Muslims too.

 

[Samaalic Era]

@Samaalic Era

Still, it couldn’t stop the colonisation of Somalia, so what?

This thread is an embarrassment given our situation in Somalia.

Many countries have fallen. The key is that we came out in one piece and we were colonised for short period and the last to fall

 

[Samaalic Era]

This thread needs to be dumped in the Tribal Council, since I’m a participant, which moderator will be kind enough to dump it there. It embarrasses all Muslims too.

This thread is not tribal council, its @IslamIsTheAnswer qabil rants

 

[astorecalledkmart]

This thread has now evolved into one where Hawiye, Darood, and Isaaq are all united in walaalnimo in defending Islam and Somalinimo MashaAllah. When Somalis did this in the time of Ahmed Gurey or Ajuraan, we changed the world.
This in itself is proof of the healing and unifying power of our faith.

 

[AussieHustler]

Many countries have fallen. The key is that we came out in one piece and we were colonised for short period and the last to fall

@Samaalic Era

Sxb, don’t embarrass yourself further and spare us going through the failures of the Somali religious elite and the fake Somali Muslims who would rather ruin their country and people because of their clan. The American indigenous people are fine without Islam. First, show them how well it serves you. Till then, work hard to make it real.

 

[Samaalic Era]

This thread has now evolved into one where Hawiye, Darood, and Isaaq are all united in walaalnimo in defending Islam and Somalinimo MashaAllah. When Somalis did this in the time of Ahmed Gurey or Ajuraan, we changed the world.
This in itself is proof of the healing and unifying power of our faith.

@Samaalic Era

Sxb, don’t embarrass yourself further and spare us going through the failures of the Somali religious elite and the fake Somali Muslims who would rather ruin their country and people because of their clan. The American indigenous people are fine without Islam. First, show them how well it serves you. Till then, work hard to make it real.

@astorecalledkmart said it all himself. Through Islam, we can unite and as one nation and achieve great things aswell change the world

 

[AussieHustler]

@astorecalledkmart

Unite where it matters most, that’s back home and it’s an impossible task. Fake unity on cyber is what’s called munaafiqiin.