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Me and @Farjano-Walad only agree on the 'head of state' being 'monarchy' and in the hands of the various sultanates and the govt/courts/parliament representing them only while serving the people only not having full powers of head of state in a villa somalia or any regional govt for that matter. But then we diverge completely on our views on the 'govt' being grounded on the laws of allah or freedom this is when I converge with Rooble kkkk but we may split on the fact he prefer a republic and somalis are all equal n citizens no matter where in the nation and cud lead to us brawling on head of state matters even though we are in-line on laws being grounded on freedom since that's not a choice but a god given right.
Me and @Farjano-Walad economic views cud even clash with meclearly not in-sync with a free market vs nor is he supportive of controlled market especially around land-housing-health-food nor is are our 'economic direction' for the population is in sync either as I demand they tap into low producing sector with high demand and not join the high producing sectors with strong demand irrespective of local or global policies.
Me and @Farjano-Walad economic views cud even clash with meclearly not in-sync with a free market vs nor is he supportive of controlled market especially around land-housing-health-food nor is are our 'economic direction' for the population is in sync either as I demand they tap into low producing sector with high demand and not join the high producing sectors with strong demand irrespective of local or global policies.
@Farjano-Walad incorrect infrastructure ownership by private individuals leads to a 'tax' for them to then re-invest into market domination and creating an ogligarchy situation like we see in Somalia all due to 'supply point infrastructure' being owned by one clan the 'majerten' in Kismayo-Bosaso and now 'Garacad'.
This is unhealthy as it leads to them too 'tax' every business venture in the nation and then 'redistributing' into 'urban market infrastructure' like banks-comms-water-electricity-land, once they own all those 'facets' of the market, they sit in the background getting a slice from every business that emerges after-all they all need bank-comms-water-electricity-land to operate on. They then finally control the 'transport' link as the last area of domination be it roads/airport/ports, this is then clearly an economy with only a few 'wealthy' in all the key sectors in the market place, leading to only big head but the rest of the body is skinny and gaajo like centralism did with mogadishu is good example of your economic philosophy leading to one big city and nothing else where-as with libertarian nonsense lead to a consortium of wealthy people with concentrated wealth and the rest are down to 'scraps', if u don't support centralizing govt powers u cannot support it's centralizing the market either to 'ogligarchs' it leads to same outcomes of what u saw in Somalia with mogadishu being the 'center' of the nation while the rest of the country was nothing. In the market it will lead to 10 investors owning the largest share of the market place due to infrastructure control and the rest of the market place being like how Somalia was prior to federalism kkkk just 'empty and down to scraps'.
This is horrendous policy to take to centralize wealth and not federalize it as it won't lead to market growth by centralizing to top investors who will not generate 'demand' like a large middle class would so other investors start to respond to the growing demand.
This is unhealthy as it leads to them too 'tax' every business venture in the nation and then 'redistributing' into 'urban market infrastructure' like banks-comms-water-electricity-land, once they own all those 'facets' of the market, they sit in the background getting a slice from every business that emerges after-all they all need bank-comms-water-electricity-land to operate on. They then finally control the 'transport' link as the last area of domination be it roads/airport/ports, this is then clearly an economy with only a few 'wealthy' in all the key sectors in the market place, leading to only big head but the rest of the body is skinny and gaajo like centralism did with mogadishu is good example of your economic philosophy leading to one big city and nothing else where-as with libertarian nonsense lead to a consortium of wealthy people with concentrated wealth and the rest are down to 'scraps', if u don't support centralizing govt powers u cannot support it's centralizing the market either to 'ogligarchs' it leads to same outcomes of what u saw in Somalia with mogadishu being the 'center' of the nation while the rest of the country was nothing. In the market it will lead to 10 investors owning the largest share of the market place due to infrastructure control and the rest of the market place being like how Somalia was prior to federalism kkkk just 'empty and down to scraps'.
This is horrendous policy to take to centralize wealth and not federalize it as it won't lead to market growth by centralizing to top investors who will not generate 'demand' like a large middle class would so other investors start to respond to the growing demand.
@Farjano-Walad let's put aside the economic debate for another time as our beliefs on freedom vs law of allah are not even in-line. But take this shots fired waryaa. It was when the govt controlled infrastructure that lead to a 'surge' of investors to create 'industries' from scratch and required more innovation and more ruggedness which is responsible for the 'american boom' as u can see, since they have now privativized those infrastructure, their getting 'easy' money not thru any 'ingenius' or 'rugged creativity' but purely thru controlling a 'lifeline' that the market depends on as a whole, it has led to american boom time seriously impacted now due to 'easy money' u must make 'money' a hard commodity to come by and needs to be 'earned' in tough gritty competition and innovation and by locking away the things that can lead to 'brain drain' to being owned by the 'people' as a whole such as infrastructure is mandatory this will now make them be creative in exploring business opportunities. A free market doesn't lead to entrepeneurship, it's when u lock away the infrastructure and then ask them to 'compete' leads to entrepeneurship without a monopoly or centralized wealth emerging, they will need to create businesse and finally new industries to survive when u make it hard for them, human excellence comes forth. If it's made easy for them like ur suggesting thru free market-no tax-no rules and control of lifeline infrastructure it leads to brain drain not innovation since everything has been handed to them that was 'easy'.
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in case English language was not included in your curriculum in Australia
@Farjano-Walad the supply chain is very primitive in agriculture, I also measure supply chains involved. It's from farm to trucks to ladies outside with rug, very simple/primitive supply chain. No refigeration-building-electricity involved nor their 'pool' of employees. Your 7th century economics is simple out of sync with the 21st century world, you really need to delve into liberal economics to ensure middle class grow as that will generate investor response and growth and tie down infrastructure to the govt alone so it doesn't lead to centraliztion of wealth or an ogligarch and requires 'even market' playing field for all to start creating products/goods/services that are skilled/unskilled with a strong govt ensuring land-housing-food are adjusted to 'market' rates and not an 'ogligarch' rates dominating the land-scape and controlling vital infrastructure.
Roads-Ports-Electricity-Basic foods-Rail-Airport-Comms-Water are totally no go zones for liberal economist as it leads to centralized wealth which is then redistributed by small capitalist group into market infrastructure such as land-electricity-water-comms which leads to centralized ogligarch repeating the same process anytime a 'new industry' happens and keeping the status quo for the rest of society. I don't mind they become ogligarchs thru pure and even competition with no advantage given to them to dominate lifelines, if they do indeed become the top dog in the market with no 'infrastructure' control involved, I will allow them to start owning other industries or doing acquisitions with them untill I see 'market' drain in entrepeneurs and then I will roll out market interference legislation to ensure everyone goes back to even playing field. I don't say u can't be rich just not thru infrastructure control, the infrastructure is for all the people and they will pay for it's upkeep including businesses at an 'adjusted' revenue rate applied to all earnings no flat taxes, what u earn will be adjusted based on 'percentages' and your contribution to that market place infrastructure
Roads-Ports-Electricity-Basic foods-Rail-Airport-Comms-Water are totally no go zones for liberal economist as it leads to centralized wealth which is then redistributed by small capitalist group into market infrastructure such as land-electricity-water-comms which leads to centralized ogligarch repeating the same process anytime a 'new industry' happens and keeping the status quo for the rest of society. I don't mind they become ogligarchs thru pure and even competition with no advantage given to them to dominate lifelines, if they do indeed become the top dog in the market with no 'infrastructure' control involved, I will allow them to start owning other industries or doing acquisitions with them untill I see 'market' drain in entrepeneurs and then I will roll out market interference legislation to ensure everyone goes back to even playing field. I don't say u can't be rich just not thru infrastructure control, the infrastructure is for all the people and they will pay for it's upkeep including businesses at an 'adjusted' revenue rate applied to all earnings no flat taxes, what u earn will be adjusted based on 'percentages' and your contribution to that market place infrastructure
I'll cut it short for Somalis the left n right have merged on 'moderation' camp on economics even though some still sit on the fringe left bernie sander and fringe right like trump. But the moderate camp have agreed that an all powerful govt isn't desired with too much wealth and nor is an ogligarch or small group of capitalist have all the wealth, both extremes have been seen as unproductive.
The fringe left want the govt to be all powerful and focus on middle class generation and they also want a 'cap' applied to how much wealth an individual or consortium can own thru 'high taxes' so it doesn't lead to an ogligarch emerging dominating the market and swallowing up little and medium type of businesses and even at the 'top level rich' people they want to ensure it's not concentrated into a few hands but diverse hands and therefore a 'cap' thru 'high tax' is the only way to take away those with enough wealth already and leave the market for other guys to join that level of wealth group.
The fringe right want the whole market, land, and infrastructure swallowed up by the richest dog and no state interventions and creating powerful ogligarchs who dictate govt policies n laws thru money, this can even lead to them ordering the govt to keep out competitors as they swallow up all the industries in the market thru acquisitions and buy outs or merges so their eating in different pots of the pie.
What is common ground now is health-food-housing-land must be rights and not business area as it's vital for the rest of market that ppl r healthy, eating well, and have a home. The left are not going to nudge on this very much as they believe it's essential requirements of healthy market place that they are in place and subsidised either thru govt intervention or thru over-supply measures so it starts to become cheaper or at least reflect the market wages of workers.
Both sides are on the center now or moderation camp as they know an all powerful govt or an all powerful ogligarch is not in the nations interest and merging policies and coming up with mish mash that is sending both sides into fury that it's leaning to much to anti govt ogligarchs and the other side arguing its leading to much govt power.
In Somalia since it's federalized the chances of an all powerful govt are limited anyways and therefore social liberal policies are in dire need to lift up this peasantry into the middle class and make them have skills n produce something then turning 'foreign aid or ngos' into business like it is now where they even 'sell' off the 'charity' and trying to create a business out of it kkkkk, even the leaders love govt as they see it as the biggest weath generator thru aid, sad but wixi lagu soo turay thru sadaqo inaad ganacsi ka dhigtan shows the world how worthless your society n leaders are as u survive on the crumbs of another man money thru his mode of production and u sit there fighting over it and investing into houses n shares thru it, it's sad situation to say the least. It's like me n u in the west going to charity bins and then going to africa and creating a business out of it kkkkk which it does happen especially kenya selling on second hand american clothes. Your ppl are truly cursed by god as u scavenge the remains of the world like vultures after the white man alpha predator has been thru it and left u the bones and bad meat parts and u think u scored the jackpot kkkkk
The fringe left want the govt to be all powerful and focus on middle class generation and they also want a 'cap' applied to how much wealth an individual or consortium can own thru 'high taxes' so it doesn't lead to an ogligarch emerging dominating the market and swallowing up little and medium type of businesses and even at the 'top level rich' people they want to ensure it's not concentrated into a few hands but diverse hands and therefore a 'cap' thru 'high tax' is the only way to take away those with enough wealth already and leave the market for other guys to join that level of wealth group.
The fringe right want the whole market, land, and infrastructure swallowed up by the richest dog and no state interventions and creating powerful ogligarchs who dictate govt policies n laws thru money, this can even lead to them ordering the govt to keep out competitors as they swallow up all the industries in the market thru acquisitions and buy outs or merges so their eating in different pots of the pie.
What is common ground now is health-food-housing-land must be rights and not business area as it's vital for the rest of market that ppl r healthy, eating well, and have a home. The left are not going to nudge on this very much as they believe it's essential requirements of healthy market place that they are in place and subsidised either thru govt intervention or thru over-supply measures so it starts to become cheaper or at least reflect the market wages of workers.
Both sides are on the center now or moderation camp as they know an all powerful govt or an all powerful ogligarch is not in the nations interest and merging policies and coming up with mish mash that is sending both sides into fury that it's leaning to much to anti govt ogligarchs and the other side arguing its leading to much govt power.
In Somalia since it's federalized the chances of an all powerful govt are limited anyways and therefore social liberal policies are in dire need to lift up this peasantry into the middle class and make them have skills n produce something then turning 'foreign aid or ngos' into business like it is now where they even 'sell' off the 'charity' and trying to create a business out of it kkkkk, even the leaders love govt as they see it as the biggest weath generator thru aid, sad but wixi lagu soo turay thru sadaqo inaad ganacsi ka dhigtan shows the world how worthless your society n leaders are as u survive on the crumbs of another man money thru his mode of production and u sit there fighting over it and investing into houses n shares thru it, it's sad situation to say the least. It's like me n u in the west going to charity bins and then going to africa and creating a business out of it kkkkk which it does happen especially kenya selling on second hand american clothes. Your ppl are truly cursed by god as u scavenge the remains of the world like vultures after the white man alpha predator has been thru it and left u the bones and bad meat parts and u think u scored the jackpot kkkkk
The libertarians far right or whatever they call themselves nowadays as they switch names to sound 'cool' in society simply want a 'powerful business class' and weak govt that is told what to do by them thru their money power and the people held hostage. Any new business venture will be swallowed by these people thru acquisitions or merges, any outside competitor restricted by them thru passing of laws to make it tough for 'other competitors' into their market space.
They will not create large working class beyond what is necessary and will end up paying less since their is no 'market' their in at every scale of it and will set the 'prices' down-low for labor across the board, they will adjust land prices to be high leading to a 'ghetto sowetto' to form. These are the people the quran 'deems ribbah' and not necessarily 'bankers' it can be anyone with too much wealth that has made life unbearable to the laymen so they can increase their profits.
Islamics think it's banking that is haram becuz at the time they were the ogligarchs, anything that is 'excessive profiteering' which ogligarchs basically is, that's pure haram not necessarily banking if it's leading to more people to join the financial freedom club. It's like how they say alcohol is bad in the quran yet 50% of medicine are alcohol based. It's not the alcohol but intoxication that is bad. They mistranslate everything due to their ignorance in today's world as they look for the 7th century for answers who lived vastly different situations then the world we live in yet their understanding of religion is still stuck in the 7th century with no growth whatsoever kkkkk.
So if u want to know what truly ribbah is, it's ogligarchy dominating every industry and setting conditions so low and wages that people cannot live a dignified life and they remain at the top. They love controlling lifelines not just 'banking' but anything where there is large dependency like electricity-roads-water-banks-land-airports-ports-rail or anything where there is 'large' demand they love to choke-hold it to their investor club and gather wealth from everyone using it and then re-distribute that immediately into 'acquisitions' of start ups in the market that are 'productive' and they start to become 'companies and groups and eventually coporations' and the rest of the market is simply workers and since they own every industry or have huge 'stake' in it thru merges they will set the 'market' rate for labour and it will be at the lowest denominator since it's a 'cost' to them and since they own the land they will also set it for high beyond market rates leading to under-class of peasants to develop living in terrible conditions like in the industrial age has clearly shown to create an urban poor ghettos with horrendous living conditions cause they will make u buy land not at 1 per person or family per person, they will ensure it's high as f*ck where u need 100 people to come together to purchase a land and they will create 'ghettos' for u to ensure they sold the land at high price and sub-divided between low class to combine their meager 'earnings' together while the govt is just sitting there disempowered and weak to enforce laws to stop this from happening.
They will not create large working class beyond what is necessary and will end up paying less since their is no 'market' their in at every scale of it and will set the 'prices' down-low for labor across the board, they will adjust land prices to be high leading to a 'ghetto sowetto' to form. These are the people the quran 'deems ribbah' and not necessarily 'bankers' it can be anyone with too much wealth that has made life unbearable to the laymen so they can increase their profits.
Islamics think it's banking that is haram becuz at the time they were the ogligarchs, anything that is 'excessive profiteering' which ogligarchs basically is, that's pure haram not necessarily banking if it's leading to more people to join the financial freedom club. It's like how they say alcohol is bad in the quran yet 50% of medicine are alcohol based. It's not the alcohol but intoxication that is bad. They mistranslate everything due to their ignorance in today's world as they look for the 7th century for answers who lived vastly different situations then the world we live in yet their understanding of religion is still stuck in the 7th century with no growth whatsoever kkkkk.
So if u want to know what truly ribbah is, it's ogligarchy dominating every industry and setting conditions so low and wages that people cannot live a dignified life and they remain at the top. They love controlling lifelines not just 'banking' but anything where there is large dependency like electricity-roads-water-banks-land-airports-ports-rail or anything where there is 'large' demand they love to choke-hold it to their investor club and gather wealth from everyone using it and then re-distribute that immediately into 'acquisitions' of start ups in the market that are 'productive' and they start to become 'companies and groups and eventually coporations' and the rest of the market is simply workers and since they own every industry or have huge 'stake' in it thru merges they will set the 'market' rate for labour and it will be at the lowest denominator since it's a 'cost' to them and since they own the land they will also set it for high beyond market rates leading to under-class of peasants to develop living in terrible conditions like in the industrial age has clearly shown to create an urban poor ghettos with horrendous living conditions cause they will make u buy land not at 1 per person or family per person, they will ensure it's high as f*ck where u need 100 people to come together to purchase a land and they will create 'ghettos' for u to ensure they sold the land at high price and sub-divided between low class to combine their meager 'earnings' together while the govt is just sitting there disempowered and weak to enforce laws to stop this from happening.
An ogligarchy is simply a lazy fat bunch of people who invest into lifelines or market infrastructure as a way to get a nice royalty from any activity on the ground, as soon as that activity becomes large they simply 'swallow' it up and expand their portfolio, they let you do the hard work to begin your business and once it has gone past that stage of wins/losses and stabilized into growth, they look at the growth level and if it's within a 'scope' of you becoming a top 1% they simply buy you out or demand 'merge' so they cut into your 'slice' of the pie and ensure you stay at the pecking order. It's very unhealthy economic model as it concentrates large wealth into to few hands where-as power corrupts they say in too few hands, well wealth is no different either.
A federalized format on wealth is mandatory to create different wealth classes and ensure the ogligarchy itself is diverse and not concentrated so it can lead to check n balance between themselves for their portfolio interests. I mean bill gates is an ogligarch but he won't support say 'amazon jeff bezo' ogligarch u know why? his industry requires skills and therefore he will pressure govt into education investment where-as jeff bezo will encourage govt into no education investment so the pool of unskilled grows and he can pay less. U see they can't unite their wealth power due to differing interests and the more diverse the ogligarch is like this in the market, the better it is for market health all round, just like we demand diversity in small to medium businesses and not monopoly, we expect the same of the top 1%.
We do not support concentration of power or wealth nowhere but diversity n federalization of both. Stand with liberal economics it's the only sane economic model in the world as long as it's federal country and power is shared and not leading to 'centralized' state power in a 'few hands' again, if it's centralized or unitarian nation, then I can understand the fear of strong powerful govt as it leads to power n wealth into a few hands which is the problem. The problem isn't businesss or wealth nor power n control as both are needed in the world, the problem is only when it becomes concentrated be it wealth or power and why most people sit on the center of left n right divide with some leaning center left on ideas of land subsidies-health-wage laws and others on center right no wage laws-no health laws-no land subsidies. It has come a long way from the days of what this loser @Farjano-Walad is preaching as most are now sitting in the center knowing an all powerful ogligarch or an all powerful govt isn't in any sides interest, they only diverge from the center based on housing-health-wage-unions now as the great right n left divide is over today, their now centered in moderation.
A federalized format on wealth is mandatory to create different wealth classes and ensure the ogligarchy itself is diverse and not concentrated so it can lead to check n balance between themselves for their portfolio interests. I mean bill gates is an ogligarch but he won't support say 'amazon jeff bezo' ogligarch u know why? his industry requires skills and therefore he will pressure govt into education investment where-as jeff bezo will encourage govt into no education investment so the pool of unskilled grows and he can pay less. U see they can't unite their wealth power due to differing interests and the more diverse the ogligarch is like this in the market, the better it is for market health all round, just like we demand diversity in small to medium businesses and not monopoly, we expect the same of the top 1%.
We do not support concentration of power or wealth nowhere but diversity n federalization of both. Stand with liberal economics it's the only sane economic model in the world as long as it's federal country and power is shared and not leading to 'centralized' state power in a 'few hands' again, if it's centralized or unitarian nation, then I can understand the fear of strong powerful govt as it leads to power n wealth into a few hands which is the problem. The problem isn't businesss or wealth nor power n control as both are needed in the world, the problem is only when it becomes concentrated be it wealth or power and why most people sit on the center of left n right divide with some leaning center left on ideas of land subsidies-health-wage laws and others on center right no wage laws-no health laws-no land subsidies. It has come a long way from the days of what this loser @Farjano-Walad is preaching as most are now sitting in the center knowing an all powerful ogligarch or an all powerful govt isn't in any sides interest, they only diverge from the center based on housing-health-wage-unions now as the great right n left divide is over today, their now centered in moderation.
Besides economics is a very 'small' topic as it will fluctuate depending on the population and living conditions of the day and what measures need to be taken or what measures not be taken if their is need for investment in a supply area identified by the govt especially if the human capital is prepared for the investment depending on their skilled/unskilled ratio population the only argument will be about wages and land subsidies for the new workers to become home owners and nothing else.
The issue of 'qadiyad' or your 'belief' surrounding what the laws of the govt are is what can be far worse in terms of civil strife and wars. If u hold the position that the supreme law of the land is god's law and someone else holds nothing but freedom is the law, these are inconsistent and cannot co-exist, it's very hard to create 'moderation' camp between two widely held belief systems as one cancels out the other.
Some people hold the greatest law should be protecting people freedom as that is the first thing god gave to human their ability to be free mentally-physically-religiously and they hold this isn't something a govt can interfere in since it's not owned by the govt to dictate it and only from god above. Then there is another camp who hold nothing but god law is the foundation of the land and govt and all must fall under it irrespective of freedom.
These two thoughts are going to lead to 'free world' and 'theocracy' clash as we don't hold that god law is mandatory but a choice people need to make not enforced by the state irrespective if they are majority who say so because it wasn't a 'majority' who created freedom so majority-minority cannot over ride it. Majority-Minority can only elect a govt of their choice an idealogy but not strip away freedoms since it's not theirs to strip away.
Freedom isn't an idealogy or thinking or political group, it's a law, it's not up for debate or change or amendments unless an area is identified where it's freedom has been impacted that's the only time it changes so it can bring every part of society in line with freedom. Somalis some-what think this is some sort of 'debate' or can be 'bended' how they like, it cannot be.
U either take it or leave it, you cannot bend it where it suits you since you are not the one who owns it so for u to bend it we see as a violation against humanity, gaf ibnal adan ayaad uu gaysatay since we are here to govern humans we are not here to be god representatives and judge on his behalf what isn't our business. Freedom is so cool and so right we must stop the tyraants under the disguise of god and playing advocacy role in order to hide their 'hormuud loot' kkkkkk
The issue of 'qadiyad' or your 'belief' surrounding what the laws of the govt are is what can be far worse in terms of civil strife and wars. If u hold the position that the supreme law of the land is god's law and someone else holds nothing but freedom is the law, these are inconsistent and cannot co-exist, it's very hard to create 'moderation' camp between two widely held belief systems as one cancels out the other.
Some people hold the greatest law should be protecting people freedom as that is the first thing god gave to human their ability to be free mentally-physically-religiously and they hold this isn't something a govt can interfere in since it's not owned by the govt to dictate it and only from god above. Then there is another camp who hold nothing but god law is the foundation of the land and govt and all must fall under it irrespective of freedom.
These two thoughts are going to lead to 'free world' and 'theocracy' clash as we don't hold that god law is mandatory but a choice people need to make not enforced by the state irrespective if they are majority who say so because it wasn't a 'majority' who created freedom so majority-minority cannot over ride it. Majority-Minority can only elect a govt of their choice an idealogy but not strip away freedoms since it's not theirs to strip away.
Freedom isn't an idealogy or thinking or political group, it's a law, it's not up for debate or change or amendments unless an area is identified where it's freedom has been impacted that's the only time it changes so it can bring every part of society in line with freedom. Somalis some-what think this is some sort of 'debate' or can be 'bended' how they like, it cannot be.
U either take it or leave it, you cannot bend it where it suits you since you are not the one who owns it so for u to bend it we see as a violation against humanity, gaf ibnal adan ayaad uu gaysatay since we are here to govern humans we are not here to be god representatives and judge on his behalf what isn't our business. Freedom is so cool and so right we must stop the tyraants under the disguise of god and playing advocacy role in order to hide their 'hormuud loot' kkkkkk
If u don't like 'freedom' then you simply got an issue with god and should take it up with him, since he gave this freely to people on NO FUCKIN CONDITION, he didn't place any conditions like these tyrant theocrats are trying to do by bending it where it doesn't suit them, god didn't do this and I am suprised they are acting as if their god advocate to do so.
If u don't like someone freedom you need to go f*ck RIGHT OFF U KUNT, you are not the one who created it and therefore u as hell are not the ones to BEND IT.
God gave ppl the ability to disbelieve, eat pork, be gay, drink alcohol. If u don't like it then going f*ck ask him why he allowed 'freedom with no restrictions' stop blaming the person exercising their freedom and choices.
If u don't like it tough luck put up with it, cause god doesn't care what ppl do, then why the f*ck do u care? everything u hate must be respected as free, i dont care if u agree with it since your agreement doesn't set freedom, there was no condition applied to freedom by god. If people do not want to follow him or have anything to do with him, who the f*ck r u to force them? even god didn't force them so what are u doing trying to force them? you just using religion as means to power or hiding loot like hormuud because it defies reasoning what your doing is against anything god wanted. If god wanted alcohol-gays-pork banned he wud do it himself, he doesn't need ur futo to do it. Dont scream oh its bad for u so what if its bad for u, is it harming u? then f*ck right off kunt and know your role, u ain't dictating other people choices or decisions u need to step right back to your own freedom space and dictate your own life
If u don't like someone freedom you need to go f*ck RIGHT OFF U KUNT, you are not the one who created it and therefore u as hell are not the ones to BEND IT.
God gave ppl the ability to disbelieve, eat pork, be gay, drink alcohol. If u don't like it then going f*ck ask him why he allowed 'freedom with no restrictions' stop blaming the person exercising their freedom and choices.
If u don't like it tough luck put up with it, cause god doesn't care what ppl do, then why the f*ck do u care? everything u hate must be respected as free, i dont care if u agree with it since your agreement doesn't set freedom, there was no condition applied to freedom by god. If people do not want to follow him or have anything to do with him, who the f*ck r u to force them? even god didn't force them so what are u doing trying to force them? you just using religion as means to power or hiding loot like hormuud because it defies reasoning what your doing is against anything god wanted. If god wanted alcohol-gays-pork banned he wud do it himself, he doesn't need ur futo to do it. Dont scream oh its bad for u so what if its bad for u, is it harming u? then f*ck right off kunt and know your role, u ain't dictating other people choices or decisions u need to step right back to your own freedom space and dictate your own life
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Teeri is absolutely out of his mind cuz his clan affliated BS got exposed. All he can come up with is fake degmos to claim other peoples' deegaans. Faafan is home to many different clans yet he wanna convimce us that its pure jidwaq territory and the same goes to many other regions like jarar in which ogadens inhabit only fraction of it.
they've been giving their lives for centuries, OG fighting in wars against habash is recent, there is a reason they have the biggest numbers , because they never really sacrificed any lives till now ,
You have so much obsessjon on Freedom but what kind of freedom you are advocating for? I mean no one is rejecting the principle of freedom it self but the only difference is to what extent it can be exercised. So if you need absolute freedom then thats of utopian thing in which no one can never enjoy as there is an already established form of authority in every part of the world so need to blame muslims for applying their sharia just like western liberal nations applying their conventional laws.
And non of that can happen with out state power or connection to the top politician who controls the army
Hence why I want a limited government so what favours said government can dish out would thus be limited.
Warya farjano, Jarar is mine awoowo and no amount of calaacal on Somalispot can change the fact on the groundso chill out buddy and be happy with your 3 and half gobols
Funny for you only get full MPs from gasshaambo.
car warya name me another degmos isaaq or dir or what ever creature you they get MPs outside of gaashambo
your so clueless bro. Jarar governor has always been reer isaaq a Mohamed Zubeer sub clan
since isaaq has never been governor and only controls one county all I can say is bless you and dream on bro anyone can dream
and your right. Reer cabdulle alone is 3 and half gobals fothey Ogaden or Absame which is younger than isaaq in abtir or whatever you miserable langab you are which I don’t even bother to find out
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no you did not I dare any langab non Absame to show they were in Qoraxey. DAGAXBUUR. WARDER. Afdheer. Godey. Jigjiga. Fiiq and all other Absame lands to show they were there before Absame
libaan and shaniley is not mind but the Absame region were Pacified with Absame blood inch by inch and I dare any langab to show otherwise
no you did not I dare any langab non Absame to show they were in Qoraxey. DAGAXBUUR. WARDER. Afdheer. Godey. Jigjiga. Fiiq and all other Absame lands to show they were there before Absame
libaan and shaniley is not mind but the Absame region were Pacified with Absame blood inch by inch and I dare any langab to show otherwise
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