That's why in the early stages of Islam, Muhammad forcefully converted countries with violence...
Why is Somalia in the Arab league?
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Lord Flacko
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ISIS isn't the religion of peace nor does it represent it. If they had their way they'd kill most Muslims on earth, leaving you to wonder who are the true followers and who aren't?
Lord Flacko
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Which countries?
DeathWish
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I don't like writing those coward's names on the internet. So please do the research on your own because that would be more beneficial for you.
Everybody know those idiots were made by the US/ Saudis because of a pipeline that would starve Russia economically.
Kanye
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The invasion of Iraq has led to the deaths of 113,000 non-combatant civilians and had a total death toll of 500,000-1,000,000 as the result of the invasion which in turn ended up enabling extremists to take advantage of the power void to form ISIS. I don't understand the point you're trying to make. If your point is that religious people also participate in war, sure. But to say that most wars are on religious basis is ludicrous.
DeathWish
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See this proves you have little to no knowledge about history. Unbiased historians have respect for Prophet Muhammed(PBUH). Even Gandhi the pacifist loved reading about our dear Prophet(PBUH).
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Quran (2:191-193) - "And kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out. And Al-Fitnah [disbelief or unrest] is worse than killing... but if they desist, then lo! Allah is forgiving and merciful. And fight them until there is no more Fitnah [disbelief and worshipping of others along with Allah] and worship is for Allah alone.
Quran (4:74) - "Let those fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of this world for the other. Whoso fighteth in the way of Allah, be he slain or be he victorious, on him We shall bestow a vast reward."
Quran (4:89) - "They but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do, and thus be on the same footing (as they): But take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah (From what is forbidden). But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them; and (in any case) take no friends or helpers from their ranks.
Quran (5:33) - "The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement.
All this from the religion of peace.
Quran (4:74) - "Let those fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of this world for the other. Whoso fighteth in the way of Allah, be he slain or be he victorious, on him We shall bestow a vast reward."
Quran (4:89) - "They but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do, and thus be on the same footing (as they): But take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah (From what is forbidden). But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them; and (in any case) take no friends or helpers from their ranks.
Quran (5:33) - "The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement.
All this from the religion of peace.
DeathWish
Hotep and Hebrew Israelite
These \talking points are getting boring as hell.....
Those ayat were released in the time Muslims were getting killed and their families tortured. If you do not know how the revelation of the Quran works then it is better you study about it then say what you will.
Kanye
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What exactly is the point you're trying to make? That Somalia would have been better off without Islam? Because that's utterly fallacious.
Now see i can use your logic and say where is your proof ? But naah and it's not 20 or 30 million it's between more like 200-300 million, by the way 50 times 20 million is a billion your saying communist China and Russia killed of a billion people
And my proof let's see a list of military conquests by the Muslims.
1. Conquest of Syria: 634–641
2. Conquest of Egypt: 639–642
3. Conquest of Mesopotamia and Persia: 633–651
4. Conquest of Sindh: 711–714
5. Conquest of the Maghreb: 647–742
6. Conquest of Hispania and Septimania: 711–721
God damn now that I'm checking it out its hundreds upon of hundreds of conquests
And you want to tell me this was done all peacefully tell that to the birds
Lord Flacko
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1. Context. It talks about war where you are on the defensive
https://quran.com/2/191-193 Read for yourself. No need to put things out of context
2. Same as above
3. Talks about traitors who wish you harm (renegade), also same as above, read second surah where it talks about being merciful in war and not killing those who have surrendered. https://quran.com/4:89
Except for those who take refuge with a people between yourselves and whom is a treaty or those who come to you, their hearts strained at [the prospect of] fighting you or fighting their own people. And if Allah had willed, He could have given them power over you, and they would have fought you. So if they remove themselves from you and do not fight you and offer you peace, then Allah has not made for you a cause [for fighting] against them.
4. "The punishment of those who wage war against Allah, his messenger and history people, and those who strife to make mischief in his land-"
You tried though
DeathWish
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Now see i can use your logic and say where is your proof ? But naah and it's not 20 or 30 million it's between more like 200-300 million by the way 50 times 20 million is a billion your saying communist China and Russia killed of a billion people
And my proof let's see a list of military conquests by the Muslims.
1. Conquest of Syria: 634–641
2. Conquest of Egypt: 639–642
3. Conquest of Mesopotamia and Persia: 633–651
4. Conquest of Sindh: 711–714
5. Conquest of the Maghreb: 647–742
6. Conquest of Hispania and Septimania: 711–721
God damn now that I'm checking it out its hundreds upon of hundreds of conquests
And you want to tell me this was done all peacefully tell that to the birds
The amounts of deaths in those battles would be less than what the atheists did in the last 110 years. Back then people used swords and arrows, which means it would be almost impossible to do the same amount of damage as modern countries can.
If Muslim history is filled with bloodshed then what is Atheistic history filled with again?If the Nazis learned from the Soviets shouldn't that tell you something?
And point to when I've been an apologist.
So are you but what I'm? Blame game
Lord Flacko
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Military conquests are human nature and have been done by every population on earth. They're not inherently bad. Depends on the outcome and means used.Now see i can use your logic and say where is your proof ? But naah and it's not 20 or 30 million it's between more like 200-300 million, by the way 50 times 20 million is a billion your saying communist China and Russia killed of a billion people
And my proof let's see a list of military conquests by the Muslims.
1. Conquest of Syria: 634–641
2. Conquest of Egypt: 639–642
3. Conquest of Mesopotamia and Persia: 633–651
4. Conquest of Sindh: 711–714
5. Conquest of the Maghreb: 647–742
6. Conquest of Hispania and Septimania: 711–721
God damn now that I'm checking it out its hundreds upon of hundreds of conquests
And you want to tell me this was done all peacefully tell that to the birds
DeathWish
Hotep and Hebrew Israelite
It's true though!
Lord Flacko
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I'm not. Military conquests is human nature and you know it. Though I stand for Diplomacy, I'm know the difference between good and bad military conquestsSo now your back trackingenough said.
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